No more Brit Embassy income certification letters!

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Originally Posted by bowie

^ Trolling fcuktard? - go hump someone else's leg

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Now now bowie, there's no need for profanity. I only meant why would you take shit off a low level, paper pushing, passport stamping, immigration official? I mean IF you met the requirements why not stand your ground instead of roll over? I have argued with more than a few immigration officers when they were trying to tell me some rule that either didn't exist or that they were trying to say was written in a way it wasn't.

I lost my fear of thais in too tight of uniforms with b/s baubles hanging off them a good while ago.. I suggest you do the same.

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Originally Posted by toddaniels

I lost my fear of thais in too tight of uniforms with b/s baubles hanging off them a good while ago.. I suggest you do the same.

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Well, there ya go danielz, azzumin zhit.

For the record, never had a problem with Immigration, Thai nor USA, and I’ve run the gamut on both. Simple solution, forward preparation, have your shit in one sock and get the job done. One stop shopping. What is required is documented.

I prepare it, provide it, go in and then out – one stop shopping. On the occasion when you get a squeaky wheel looking for grease – standing your grounds does in fact work.

Never had “fear” of uniforms, or anything else for that matter, (Least of all big-mouthed trolls on anonymous internet websites) and never will.

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Originally Posted by toddaniels

eating mama noodles but "living the dream" here or a combination of the above.

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How Punteresque

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Originally Posted by toddaniels

eating mama noodles but "living the dream"

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Not everyone can afford to dine in the Changwattana canteen every Thursday..

...^555: touche...

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Originally Posted by lom

Not everyone can afford to dine in the Changwattana canteen every Thursday..

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:smileylaughing:


That's livin' alright.

going there next week for an extension, maybe I will do a food court review :)

but no Pierre Cardin to bring with me on a date, sadly

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Originally Posted by toddaniels

NO ONE (as in not your local immigration officer) has a clue what the new policy will be OR how it will be written and/or enforced.

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Indeed. I got my retirement extension today. They accepted my US embassy letter without a peep. I told him that they would not be furnished next year and he just look at me stupidly and grunted with incomprehension.

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Originally Posted by Humbert

just look at me stupidly and grunted with incomprehension.

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Thais do that when they agree with what you say. Saves saying 'yes'. :)

I have to eat my words regarding the Kap Cheong Immigration office. I originally complained about the intrusive personal scrutiny they employed when they originally vetted me. This is my 4th extension using this office and now it takes only an hour to complete the process. I endured the traffic on Chang Wattana, the long lines extending into the lobby, the long ticket queues etc. at the Bangkok office once. I would hate to have to go through that every year even with the wonderful food court.

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Originally Posted by Humbert

Kap Cheong Immigration

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Spent years dealing with Immigration in Bangkok and couldn't agree more with the ease of dealing with smaller Immigration offices. Faster and far less nonsense.

I've never had dealings with BKK immigration, only Division 4 out here in Buriram, Korat and Kap Cheong, over the years, and I find them very obnoxious. Never a year goes by where there isn't some kinda problem when visiting their offices. They neither do the 90 day report by mail or online. Tuther year we all got home visits whether on a retirement extension or a marriage extension whereby we had to have two character witnesses in attendance to verify we were of good standing and gave our wives money. What the fcuks it got to do with them? Anyways I fooking hate the tossers.

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I've never had dealings with BKK immigration, only Division 4 out here in Buriram, Korat and Kap Cheong, over the years, and I find them very obnoxious. Never a year goes by where there isn't some kinda problem when visiting their offices. They neither do the 90 day report by mail or online. Tuther year we all got home visits whether on a retirement extension or a marriage extension whereby we had to have two character witnesses in attendance to verify we were of good standing and gave our wives money. What the fcuks it got to do with them? Anyways I fooking hate the tossers.

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Pragmatic
I think it must be you. I have dealt with the same offices for a long time and never really had a problem but then I never go there with any expectations either.
As for the 90 day report online, the guy in the Buriam office told me that I could do it online if I wanted to but I haven't tried it yet and won't for another 6 months as my next trip is to get the yearly extension. As for a home visit we got one for the first time last year so i just assummed that someone was actually enforcing their policy.
I have noticed on my last 2 visits thast their new boss has them all coming to work in their uniforms and making the guys have a haircut every week (so I was told by one of them).

So maybe you should try going there with a smiley face (555).

Cheers

Only dealt with Amnat Charoen and Roiet. Never had anything like you experienced. If I had, would have got in their face. Been in Thailand 30+ years and long past the days when I can be intimidated by over inflated bureaucrats.

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Originally Posted by ootai

I have noticed on my last 2 visits thast their new boss has them all coming to work in their uniforms and making the guys have a haircut every week (so I was told by one of them).

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Shame he doesn't stop Khun Arcade charging 20,000 for under the table extensions. Been in Thailand 13 years and have 6-7 changes in offices over that period and I've never moved house.

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Shame he doesn't stop Khun Arcade charging 20,000 for under the table extensions. Been in Thailand 13 years and have 6-7 changes in offices over that period and I've never moved house.

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Pragmatic
I once was there and one of the guys said to m, " you paid 20,00 for this last time didn't you?" and I said to him, " I have never paid anything before." and he moved on.
What he was referring to was my Missus had paid them previously (15,000) because she "just wanted to get it done", we argued about that for quite a while as I didn't want to pay anything.
I was quite prepared to fly back to Australia if needed rather than pay them but she was happy to just pay and be done with it. Truth be told it was a major stuff up by me that lead to the problem in the first place. So if anybody is silly enough (like I was) to put themselves in the position of needing an under the table deal then they should pay but if it is just a matter of them doing their job then that should not require under the table payments. I don't expect that system to ever be eradicated here in Thailand.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

They neither do the 90 day report by mail or online.

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As ootai pointed out, the online system has nothing to do with the local offices. You simply print out the receipt you get online and put it in your passport and you are good to go. I have done it several times along with in person reports.

I objected to the home visits and character witnesses too. They only did it once and I now think it helped to develop a relationship with them.

We've discussed this before and you seem to have had your share of problems so I understand your frustration.

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Originally Posted by Humbert

As ootai pointed out, the online system has nothing to do with the local offices.

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I never said it had to do with the local office. I said it was 'Division 4', of which Korat, Buriram and Kap Cheong come under.

ok so went today to the big Chattawana immigration for an extension of 30 days,

planned the whole fucking day and was going to do a nice restaurant review for the famous food court downstair where everyone working there is going since it's been claimed to be the best food court in Thailand, if not in the world

didn't even have the time to do it,

I went in when all cleared at 13H07 after letting all the fookers in first at 13H00, didn't want to bother with a long line

I was out at 13h25 exactly, all cleared, paper processed and password renewed, that's less than 20min and I had 3 people before me

very efficient, and I didn't even have the form properly filled so had to do a few minor corrections (TM7 was updated with new info)

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Originally Posted by Norton

couldn't agree more with the ease of dealing with smaller Immigration offices. Faster and far less nonsense.

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Seconded. A three person team at my local office. The boss who hides away in his back office and two ladies.

We stop off close by for lunch and do a little big city shopping on the way back home.

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Originally Posted by Dragonfly

ok so went today to the big Chattawana immigration for an extension of 30 days,

planned the whole fucking day and was going to do a nice restaurant review for the famous food court downstair where everyone working there is going since it's been claimed to be the best food court in Thailand, if not in the world

didn't even have the time to do it,

I went in when all cleared at 13H07 after letting all the fookers in first at 13H00, didn't want to bother with a long line

I was out at 13h25 exactly, all cleared, paper processed and password renewed, that's less than 20min and I had 3 people before me

very efficient, and I didn't even have the form properly filled so had to do a few minor corrections (TM7 was updated with new info)

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So not only are an illiterate IT tard, you can’t even fill in simple forms properly. Could that be the reason for the 19 minute delay? :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Never a year goes by where there isn't some kinda problem when visiting their offices. What the fcuks it got to do with them? Anyways I fooking hate the tossers.

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Well, Prag, you should take some small comfort in the fact that the wankers you deal with are victims of their own heritage. Our wealth, and their lack of it are rubbed in their faces on a daily basis. Many moon ago the long lines of Thai’s trying to get a visa to escape wrapped around the block. You don’t see ‘em today because of embassy appointment only policies.

When I rented, my rent alone far exceeded the IO’s salary. It takes an IO ages to amass an THB 800k fortune. (personal family experience 20+ years of scrimping and saving netted a hardworking family member a "nest egg“ fortune of almost THB 500k).

We have passports and moneys that allow us to visit and/or live in just about any country we desire to. The typical Thai has difficulty visiting/vacationing in another country.

So, for me, those facts are what I dwell on if I get frustrated – I can do whatever I damn well please – by comparison, they can’t do squat.

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So it's my fault for being too wealthy that they look down on me? If I was Thai and wealthy then they'd be wai-ing me left right and center without a doubt. Which leads me to believe they really do not want us here. And they go out of their way to show it by nit picking on genuine expats. Whereas they seem a different person if an extension is being obtained under the table. I wonder why that is? :rolleyes:

^ Oh, they don’t look down on you, unless you’re one of our finer examples, “drunk expat tosser” peein’ his pants while crawlin’ down the street. You, and I present an enigma, our station and status confounds them. They must confront their own failure or lack of status, when they deal with us. Too bad.

However, realize that being an Expat, does in fact, put you several steps up on the general population of your own country. Takes a unique person with a strong resolve to successfully live in a foreign country. It is a “risky” position. We are all at the mercy of political, military, religious, economic and a society over which we have no control. Few have the balls to even try. Even fewer can make it work.

But, it ain’t just the Thai’s, more damn city slums in the US loaded with impoverished, or, in PC terms “the monetarily challenged” folk, who don’t have the balls, or the money to even attempt visiting, never mind living in, a foreign country. They certainly can’t do it and won’t even try.

As far as under the table extensions… well, looks like the noose is tightening, and perhaps, they will become a thing of the past. We can only hope.

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I never said it had to do with the local office. I said it was 'Division 4', of which Korat, Buriram and Kap Cheong come under.

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yep division 4,korat is where i have to do my 10th extension fri.23rd.i have never had a problem with any under the table request.
my gripe with them is,when i was poorly they gave my mrs.quite a bit of agrivation over her signing for me and told her i had to attend myself [90days] i cannot do it online as my entering thailand stamp is dated 2008.i have done 9 ext.and 40+ 90day reports yet my record is not up to date.nothing has changed,same address,same departure card,retirement 800k.bht.has been untouched the past 8yrs,married for over 30yrs.[same one] so come on commander give us oldies a bit of space.
and now i cant drive i have to get someone to do the job.