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    Non-Immigrant Visa Category “O” Muli Entry?

    My plan is to use my "O" visa to enter and about a month later go to the immigration office in Udon and extend it to one year and keep doing every year. I am very confused and my wife and son are more confused. The USA website says
    Non-Immigrant Visa Category “O”
    Purpose of Visit: Applicants who wish to stay with family in Thailand (Thai Family)
    Applicants who wish for volunteering work with the state enterprises or social welfare organizations in Thailand (Volunteering)
    Documents Required for Non-Immigrant Visa Category “O” (Thai Family):
    1. Your actual Passport or Travel Document. (Passport or Travel Document must not expire within 6 months and contain at least ONE completely empty visa page).
    2. One visa application form completely filled out (black and blue ink only)
    Two passport-size photographs (2″x2″) (photocopy or photo taken from Photostat will not be accepted). Photographs must have a light color background with a full- face view of the person without wearing a hat or dark glasses and covering up shoulders. Photos must be taken within 6 months.
    3. A copy of recent bank statement or evidence of adequate finance ($700 per person and $1,500 per family) (The name of the applicant must clearly appear on it)
    4. For non-US citizen, a copy of permanent resident alien card with employment verification or a copy of valid US visa with employment verification letter
    5. Flight confirmation/reservation (The name of the applicant must clearly appear on it)
    6. If you are a former Thai citizen, proof of Thai citizen such as Thai passport or Thai identification card
    7. If you want to visit as a spouse or family member (spouse, son or daughter), proof of relationship such as a photocopy of marriage license or birth certificate with a proof that your spouse or family member is a Thai citizen such as as a photocopy of Thai passport or Thai identification card
    8. For minor under 20 years old, please provide following documents
    Notarized copy of a birth certificate
    Notarized copy of marriage certificate , In case of sole custody notarized copy of court order must be provided.
    Notarized copy or original of mother and father/ legal guardian ’s passports or ID
    Original letter of notarized consent from mother and father/ legal guardian for the minor to travel abroad

    Processing time :
    In person 2-5 business days
    By mail minimum 15 business days
    ***We do not offer expedited service***
    Processing Fees:
    Single entry 80 USD
    Multiple entries 200 USD
    Payable in money order (only) made payable to “Royal Thai Embassy”.
    NO CASH, PERSONAL and BUSINESS CHECKS ACCEPTED
    *** The fee is not refundable in any cases***

    Period of stay: not exceeding 90 days.
    *** Warning of overstay ***
    Validity of a visa:
    Single entry 3 months
    Multiple entries 1 year


    My question is that after we did our home and got land we have only 8,000 in the bank and I am stuck in USA not knowing what visa to get. We have a full farm with rice and sugar cane and rubber but with out me there it does not make much and need money put into it to make money.

    My question is can I keep getting a O visa multi entry and just do 90 day runs to LAO and renew the same visa every year even though we only can not show the 400,000 baht they need for a full 1 year O visa.



    1. Can I get a O visa multi entry Visa from USA and go to LAO every 90 days and when the 1 year is up renew from either Thailand or LAO for another year multi entry untill I can show 400,00 in the bank?
    2. My wife and I have a Thai marriage license. We have been married for 4 years now.
    I need some help on this as the Embassy just said to get the type O multi entry in USA and renew out of country every 90 days because I only need to show 700.00 usd in my bank and a one way ticket...But what do I do when I am in Thailand after 1 year????
    Thanks Every one!

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    Yes you can gain a multi O spouse in your home country, or Savanhket Lao, without showing money.
    Have a read of the Sav. thread, all there.

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    Thank Jamescollister
    So can we get the same O visa every year over and over at about 200 usd? It will be the type O multi entry visa every year or will I be able to get a 1 year and not need to leve Thailand?
    So, after 1 year I can go to Lao and get a new type O visa and I do not need to show all 400,000 baht and can stay with my wife and son at our home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinarygods View Post
    Thank Jamescollister
    So can we get the same O visa every year over and over at about 200 usd? It will be the type O multi entry visa every year or will I be able to get a 1 year and not need to leve Thailand?
    So, after 1 year I can go to Lao and get a new type O visa and I do not need to show all 400,000 baht and can stay with my wife and son at our home?
    Multi O and extension of stay are, 2 different things.
    One, you need money in the bank and you report to imagination every 3 months.
    Multi O spouse, no money [yet] Savanahket] and you stamp out of Thailand every 3 months, turn around and come back.

    I would advise, get your multi O in your home country, then the next one, hope some consulate in the area, is still giving out visas with no proof of money.

    It really is, one year at a time, rules and interpretations change.

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    Thanks James!
    We are in Udon Thani so we will be going to Lao I think. Do you have any idea of what the cost of each trip is around? (just the paper work every 90 days)
    Also at the end of the year do I just go to Lao for a New Multi O every year?
    I think in a year we should have the 400,00 in the bank again. So I will need to go to Lao for the 1 year extension. Going to and from USA is a big dent in our bank account and if I can do all from Lao is better....

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    If you enter Thailand on the day before that non o based on marriage from Savannakhet expires, that visa is good for nearly 15 months.

    If I were you I'd just head to Vientiane every 90 days after you have your non o from Savannakhet. It's only around an hours drive.

    You will have no reason to show any money in the bank if you pop to Savannakhet once every 15 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinarygods
    We are in Udon Thani so we will be going to Lao I think. Do you have any idea of what the cost of each trip is around?
    From Bangkok to Savannakhet it's only 500 baht on a vip bus, it'll be peanuts from Udon Thani in a mini van

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinarygods
    We are in Udon Thani so we will be going to Lao I think. Do you have any idea of what the cost of each trip is around? (just the paper work every 90 days)
    1500 Baht, or 35 US dollars, for your Lao visa, which you get at the border.
    Cross over, turn around and stamp out, stamp back into Thailand, I use Chong Mek, if there is not bus loads of tourist crossing, 30 minutes turn around time.

    No big deal, there will be other farangs crossing who can show you the ropes.

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    I just did this exact thing yesterday in Nong Khai and it took me about 40 minutes. Since it was cold, there were very few people crossing the border and filling in the paperwork was the most time consuming part. Doing the entire process in 30 minutes is a bit optimistic IMO.

    Personally, I have had better luck obtaining a Multiple Entry O Visa from the Thai Consulate in LA than in Vientiane. Easy process in the States, but have been told not possible in Laos. Also, the immigration office in Udon is not the easiest to deal with either. I have not had to get anything done there for over 3 years, so things might have changed by now.

    So to answer your original question, I would obtain the multiple entry O visa based on marriage from the US showing the minimal documentation and no money. At the end of 1 year, or when your visa expires, go back to the US and repeat the same process. I have been doing it for over 3 years and never have had to show money in the bank.

    Good luck.
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    Rick, Chong Mek is a land crossing, guess 200 meters between the Thai immigration and Lao immigration, you literally walk out of the Thai building, over to the Lao one, get your visa, stamp out and walk back to Thailand.

    Wife's over there, with friends, handbag shopping, now, very good copies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post

    So to answer your original question, I would obtain the multiple entry O visa based on marriage from the US showing the minimal documentation and no money. At the end of 1 year, or when your visa expires, go back to the US and repeat the same process. I have been doing it for over 3 years and never have had to show money in the bank.
    Would he not be better off gaining a multi entry visa Non Im O-A based on Retirement when still in the USA.

    This Visa can be turned into a two year Visa by leaving Thailand and reentering Again a few days before it Expires.

    That what I have done.

    At the end of two years he can convert to a Non O based on Marriage here in Thailand if he wants or go back to Seppo Land and get another Retirement Visa.

    Where's Toddly. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    ould he not be better off gaining a multi entry visa Non Im O-A based on Retirement when still in the USA.
    Seeing as he doesn't have 400k in the bank, let alone 800k, then maybe not

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    Yea, I am not old enough to get a 50 and older visa. But I am in USA and have had good results from the D.C. office in the states. As I am in the USA right now I will get my multi O here in USA. But going back to USA every year is not a option if I can do it in Lao every year. So every 90 days will I need to pay Thailand again on a multi O run return?
    We are only a hour or so from Lao I think. USA just asked for 700.00 in the bank and some info from my wife and I. Along with 200.00 USD and 35.00 for USPS I think.
    The visa I will ask for will be a visa for applicants who wish to stay with family in Thailand (Thai Family) So it is a multi O visa they say.
    But, how do I renew every year? Just go to Lao or will I need to come back to USA at 2000.00 a year;(

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    ^ ^

    If he gets his Non O based on retirement O-A visa back in Seppo land he need only show that he has that money in his bank account.

    If he ain't got that amount of money available in Seppo land than he ain't gona be retiring here in Thailand.

    Maybe a little trip to Mexico is a better option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinarygods
    , how do I renew every year? Just go to Lao
    Yes, Savanakhet. It's 5000 baht(140usd) for a non o visa based on marriage to a Thai there, which as I said is good for nearly 15 months. You have to leave Thailand every 90 days on that visa , so go to Vientiane which is only a stones throw away from Udon

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    So, I will need to pay every time I come back to Thailand in 90 days and pay Lao for a visa also every 90 day? This will be 5 times a year, right? I think that is what I understand.....
    Then when our bank account is back to 400,00 I can go to Udon the next year?

    Also, I would like to take a second for all the help I am getting from all.

    This is so new to me and I have always come to Thailand on a 60 day visitor visa and gone to udon to extend 30 more days. The plane trips are killing us and we use 4000.00 a year on just plane tickets.

    Even if I spend 10,000 baht a year on 90 day multi O runs I am still saving 3600.00 a year?
    I think thats right.......
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    You're American right?

    There's 12 months in a year bud

    Look you get your fukkin visa in Savannakhet which is about a 4 and a half hour drive from Udon Thani.

    Every 90 days you have to leave Thailand

    Go to Vientiane, it's only just over an hours drive away

    When you get to the border pay 1500 baht(42 bucks) to enter Vientiane, Laos

    Then turn around and enter Thailand. It costs nothing , nada, zilch, zero to enter Thailand

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    Your visa will have an expiry date on it, which will be one year after the date of purchase.

    Make sure you re enter Thailand just before that date and your visa is good for 15 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinarygods View Post
    So, I will need to pay every time I come back to Thailand in 90 days and pay Lao for a visa also every 90 day? This will be 5 times a year, right? I think that is what I understand.....
    Then when our bank account is back to 400,00 I can go to Udon the next year?
    No, you will have a multi entry visa for Thailand, you have already paid for that, you only pay for the Lao visa.

    On a side line, don't expect to make a living from farming here, unless you are big, or producing something special, it's not called subsistence farming for nothing.

    Best of luck, but keep an escape plan, at least till you know the full score, reality is often very different to what really awaits.

    Have a look on the farming section, ask questions there, may be an eye opener.

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    Tanks Dillinger that was what I needed and the wake up slap did help...lol Sorry we have gone through so much paper crap in Thailand it is amazing any thing gets done...But it was fun going to the USA embassy and having some one know me and asking for recipes....lol

    This is a great website and you have no idea how much help all of you are.
    If there is ever any time you are in my area of Kut Chap I hope you stop in for a Leo on me......Just shoot me a PM

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    We have 100r and will start to grow organic chickens in a few months along with tissue culture vegi crops. Rice is for us and 10 tons for sale. Rubber is 3 years out or so and sugar can was 180 kt this year so far. Next year will be potato and corn with 3 new 100 foot green house runs I hope.... LAst year was a loss after we paid for land and workers and new tractor. Money is gone for now and with out me there people do not give my wife the correct price for products....But mama and papa will be at our home soon and will help us get it all going. I hope the farm will support 6 people.....lol

    I will be going from XXXXXXX a year to next to nothing on a dream I had and my wife supports.

    I am glad in the fact that my wife cares more for our son and I, than money...Very lucky

    To all men that read this post...Test you girl with a open Visa card and 4 years of not telling her what she can buy. After 4 years if you still have a wife and money you made it to love!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Rick, Chong Mek is a land crossing, guess 200 meters between the Thai immigration and Lao immigration, you literally walk out of the Thai building, over to the Lao one, get your visa, stamp out and walk back to Thailand.

    Wife's over there, with friends, handbag shopping, now, very good copies.
    Makes sense James and why it would take less time. One has to wait for the buses to travel back and forth across the Mekong when border bouncing in Non Khai which takes extra minutes.

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    Culinary, it is pretty simple once you learn the ins and outs. I travel back to the US each year to visit family and friends and to obtain a new 1 year multiple enty O visa from LA. Never any mention of money and I pay $200 for the visa along with sending a self addressed and stamped envelope for the return of my passport. I have only needed copies of my marriage certificate, my wife's Thai ID card, a copy of our house book and I include a copy of her Thai passport for good measure.

    If you have already obtained your O visa, the clock is ticking and be sure to exit and return to Thailand just before the visa expires to gain an extra 90 days. You can enter Thailand on the visa with just one day remaining on it and they will still stamp your passport for 90 days.

    If you are not able to travel to the US every year, you can go to your local immigration office and apply for a 1 year extension on your original O visa. This will take more documentation and proof of money in a Thai bank or an equivalent monthly income. I will eventually do this myself if I stop travelling to the States every year. Do not confuse a visa, which must be obtained outside of Thailand with an extension which can only be obtained while inside Thailand from your local immigration office.

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    Yea, rick the USA to Thailand and Thailand to USA is killing us every year. With the way things are in the culinary industry getting time off nowdays is intresting at best.

    Hey, any one ever convert the multi O to a full one year extension in Udon and keep just getting the 1 year in Udon? I wounder what they need for paper work there. But I think they wil ask for the bank book and I wounder if it will be a problem?

    All or our bank accounts have both of us on them. USA and Thailand accounts are joint bank accounts as well as our visa and mastercards. Do I need to have the Thailand bank account in my name only or is joint OK? Cam I show my USA account to them or will it need to be just Thai....

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    It has to be a Thai bank account, the money has to be sent to it from abroad and it has to be in your name only, not a joint account.

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