Thread: Home visit

Originally Posted by peterpan

retirement permission to stay yesterday at Udon

Are they doing this home visit nonsense in Udon for extension for retirement purposes or are you on extension for marriage?

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by peterpan

retirement permission to stay yesterday at Udon

Are they doing this home visit nonsense in Udon for extension for retirement purposes or are you on extension for marriage?

yet to find out I don't see why for retirement but then yesterday on applying for a retiment they wanted my wife's tabian ban what for?

Originally Posted by peterpan

they wanted my wife's tabian ban what for?

Ah, I see. Yes they need the tabian baan to validate your address.

I see that makes more sense, but her house registration is 60 K away.
anyway the imm guy seemed to get around it.

Unless I'm mistaken I believe peterpan received a 30 day under consideration stamp which will take him right up to when his year extension expires. Thais as a rule don't "do Christmas" and it's NOT a national holiday. I'm sure Immigration will be open for business..

That tabian baan from the thai wife nonsense when applying for an extension of stay based on retirement is just screwy.

I bet someone could get around it by having your wife submit a TM.30. That's the document with the wordy name of NOTIFICATION FROM FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER, OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED.

Once you do that and keep the receipt of notification in your passport it means the thai where you live already informed immigration there's an "alien" living with them. In theory that should negate having to show anything else but that receipt.

Peterpan, let us know if/when they come to your house for a home visit and when you do finally get the year extension, okay?

Originally Posted by toddaniels

I bet someone could get around it by having your wife submit a TM.30. That's the document with the wordy name of NOTIFICATION FROM FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER, OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED.

Yes. Once done no need for the blue book.

As of last July all I showed for 1 year extension was financials, med cert and passport copies. Had already done the TM30 routine. I did take my yellow book but no need.

Btw, for those having probs with on line, 90 day check can be now done at Roiet airport. Tuesday thru Thurs.

Originally Posted by Norton

med cert

I thought that one went out, years ago?

Originally Posted by charleyboy

I thought that one went out, years ago?

It did. Came back. So say the folks at Amnat office.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Did you have to wait whilst your file was sent to Chong Chom for signing, post 30 day under consideration?

My visa was thru Nov 24th. I applied early. The consideration period was thru Dec 24th. They came on Nov 24th. Said to call two days before Dec 24th to make sure the paperwork was complete.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by charleyboy

I thought that one went out, years ago?

It did. Came back. So say the folks at Amnat office.

Med cert is not a requirement. Sounds like another rogue rule maker.

^ If you have to follow the same procedure as I had to follow then you'll be there for at least 2 hours. They'll be looking for tea money when they return your passport BTW. Unfortunately they didn't get any from me.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

^ If you have to follow the same procedure as I had to follow then you'll be there for at least 2 hours. They'll be looking for tea money when they return your passport BTW. Unfortunately they didn't get any from me.

Why did it take two hours?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Why did it take two hours?

First you have to take your turn in the queue. Then they search for your file. I'm not sure if they then wait for others to submit their passports. May be I was lucky as a German was also waiting for his extension stamp. So off goes a courier with our passports to the top man's office at Chong Chom, 10km away. If the guy's in then the authorization is signed. The passports are returned to Kap Choeng, stamped and given back as I recall. A guy who lives near me had to sit and wait at Kap Choeng for 4 hours.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Sounds like another rogue rule maker

Likely. No big deal. Got the cert at local hospital. 50 baht. Was in and out of immigration in 20 mins with extension. No home visit. No hassle.

I don't see what Kap Choeng is up to regarding obtaining a Retirement Extension. They now process a Retirement Extension the same as a Marriage Extension therefor negating the need for a Retirement Extension for a married man. Which means I only have to show 400,000 instead of 800,000. What's their aim?

As I said previously Pragmatic, it might be worth your time to seek Todz help in addressing this issue with Bangkok. You are quite right that they have undermined the value of a retiree extension in preference to a spouse application but why they should want to do this remains inexplicable, even from the Thai perspective.

The thing is, if you were successful in forcing them to revert to the law as it is applied elsewhere they may try to fuck you up next year - they can be remarkably childish in their vindictiveness. But then, you know that.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

As I said previously Pragmatic, it might be worth your time to seek Todz help in addressing this issue with Bangkok

If I took it up do you really think I'd get anywhere? It's a closed shop and I think it'd be just a waste of time and effort.
I'm going down the road of getting a 'Marriage Extension' next year. Their loss as I, and others, will have 400,000 in a Thai bank instead of 800,000. These idiots seem good at shooting themselves in the foot.

For a small donation to the Norton home for unwed mothers you can use my address and never have to deal with the local yokels again.

3 hr to Amnat, 30 mins at immigration, 3 hrs back home. All sorted for another year.

Thank you for your offer Mr Norton but I like being honest. There is a simpler alternative to your proposition whereby I could register myself at my wife's cousins house in Korat. Korat immigration office is closer to me than Kap Choeng and doesn't operate in the same manner. But as I say, 'I like to be honest'.
The people KC Immigration are trying to catch are the ones who are single, over 50, who are on 'Marriage Extensions'. But due to not having the 800,000 Baht they pay 18,000 Baht, under the table, at Pattaya Immigration to obtain a 'Married Extension'.
KC Immigration are chasing the wrong people. They need to look in-house at Pattaya for the cause of the problem.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

The people KC Immigration are trying to catch are the ones who are single, over 50, who are on 'Marriage Extensions'. But due to not having the 800,000 Baht they pay 18,000 Baht, under the table, at Pattaya Immigration to obtain a 'Married Extension'.

Sorry, I should have said that by paying 18,000 Baht NO money has to be shown in a Thai bank account. Not even the 400,000.

There is NOTHING against thai immigration rules about getting a yearly extension of stay in one zone (by providing an address from that zone when you apply), then moving to another zone and turning in a change of address form plus that TM.30.

I know people who own condos in Chiang Mai and in fact live there most of the year. Yet they come down here, camp out at and use the Nana Hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 4 as their address to get a yearly extension of stay at Chaengwattana every year. When they go back to Chiang Mai they just turn in a change of address form when they do their 90 day report.

The BIG problem of getting those "wink-n-nod, say-no-more" back door visa extensions IS. Given the thai penchant for loving documentation, all it'd take is someone to request your file from Chonburi, Samut Prakan, Ayutthaya or any location famous for those types of stamps and you'd be caught out without the correct supporting documentation in your file..

That'd cancel your extension AND would expose you to having gotten a stamp without documentation too (which carries a MUCH higher penalty). It is highly unlikely the issuing officer would get more than a couple months "transfer to an inactive post" while the holder of said stamps would bear the brunt of the fallout..

People will say, "I know people who've done this for years and years with no problems", but that doesn't mean there couldn't be a problem in the future..

Buyer beware.

I recall Pragmatic saying that his immigration office in the boonies won't let him report locally if he has obtained his extension elsewhere and that they would simply refuse to accept his change of address notification.

Perhaps you could raise the issue with the boyz in Laksi and ask them how best to resolve this daft aberration currently perpetrated by the big bollox in charge of KC.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I recall Pragmatic saying that his immigration office in the boonies won't let him report locally if he has obtained his extension elsewhere and that they would simply refuse to accept his change of address notification.

I'm sorry mate. You're getting me mixed up with someone else.

Seekingasylum you have me confused with someone who has the slightest pull at CW.

I believe my official title with the officers out there is "Mr Tod, the f*cking pest".

I don't believe an immigration office can refuse a change of address showing you live in their zone IF in fact you live (at least sometimes) in the area of their jurisdiction.

There are plenty of reports on the inter-web where people had problems with their 90 day reporting. Especially when they were holidaying in other provinces and that zone wouldn't let them do a 90 day report, even though they were staying there at the time. It was because they didn't live there.

I can't figure it out, because allegedly the 90 day online data base is country wide which would lead me to believe they can access your data from any immigration office. Perhaps the term country wide has a different meaning here in thailand...

The KCI conundrum is gonna take a bunch 'o people from that area goin' out there, raising a stink and getting a face to face meeting with the head of the office.
Here's the link to KCI's staff
The head of it appears to be พล.ต.ต. ชาติชาย เอี่ยมแสง although that is an old 'chain of command' pic..

Do any of the people in the pics look familiar to anyone who's had a home visit?