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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Stop being one of those sheep-like, sock-puppet, wanna-b-thai, foreign suck ups here and grow a pair ferchristsakes.
    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    The sad thing is, IF I ran into the same situation as that couple, I'da probably ponied up the money too.
    Mmmm...contradiction.
    You are correct, reading those two bits out of context does appear that I am contradicting myself.

    Reading the back story of those two aged foreigners; one in a wheelchair both obviously clueless as a box 'o rox about extension stuff, IF I was in their exact situation; old, infirm, crippled, not up on visa regs, I'da probably done the same thing they did. <- does that clear it up for you?

    The other comment was directed toward those foreigners who tip-toe around here acting and thinking we need to kowtow, wai, and fawn over every Tom, Dick & Somchai thai official here just because they have a modicum of real or imagined control over our lives.

    Sometimes I forget who I despise more; foreigners like that or the thai officials who try to flex their muscles. Both demographics are equally bad in my books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    does that clear it up for you?
    Not really to be honest. I believe my quotes are in context.

    Let's agree to disagree on this one, eh?

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    ^fair enough... I'll try to stay more "true to character". .

    I don't want to be sending mixed messages and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretchy View Post
    Extension of stay form?
    Yes, thanks, turns out that's what it is. I was a bit confused because, having so much time left on the 1yr O, I was looking at it all more as a spousal addd-on than an extension, but an extension it is! Thank you for your help.

    - Frawley

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
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    Having to do this one year extension of non-immigrant O soon (based upon marriage...no WP involved). O-Visa is one year multi-entry good for another 7mos. Have all of the documentation understood but don't see a specific form mentioned at the Thai Immigration FAQ. Is there one or is it just an issue of providing the evidence along with the passport/visa? Lovely but somewhat confusing place, Thailand. Thanks for any help. - Frawley
    Forgive me for being thick, but I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, BUT;

    If you have a multi entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa good for another 7 months what's the rush to apply for a year's extension of stay anytime soon?

    With the visa you have you just "run-4-the-border" and you receive another 90 day permission to stay until stamp. Plus with that visa IF you run-4-the-border just before the visa itself expires (written on the visa as "must be used by" or "must enter by" date) you'd get another 90 days. Most people with that visa get almost 15 months in country by doing so.

    There's no up-side to getting a yearly extension of stay based on marriage now because you've still got so much time left on the visa you have. I wouldn't apply for it until you have about 60 days left on your very last permission to stay until stamp that you can wring outta that visa..

    For the yearly extension based on marriage to a thai national; are you going to used 400K baht banked in thai bank in an account in your own name, or are you going to use a notarized letter from your embassy stating you have 40Kbaht a month income from your country? If you're going the banked money the 400K baht has to have been in there 60 days BEFORE you apply.

    Fill out form TM.7 from this website; Thai Immigrations The link to their forms is on the left

    in BANGKOK you'll need the following:
    • Letter from the embassy stating you have the required monthly income (40K baht) from your country
    OR
    • a letter from your thai bank stating you have 400K baht in the account
    You'll need copies of;
    • every page of the thai bank book (if you're going the banked money route)
    • the Kor Ror2 & 3 (thai marriage certificates),
    • your wife's thai i/d card
    • her house book
    • the picture (information) page of your passport
    • the page with the Non-O visa
    • the page with the current permission to stay until stamp
    • the TM6 departure card
    • a google map or hand drawn map to your house from immigrations
    You'd also need a couple pictures of the thai wedding ceremony, you and your wife standing in front of your house address numbers, pictures of you two sitting around the living-room or some other area of the house.

    You turn that pile 'o stuff in pay 1900baht and it goes under consideration for 30 days.. Now in reality during that 30 days Immigrations is supposed to come to your house and see that you're really married.

    Here in Bangkok I only know of one person that ever happened to. After the 30 days is up you go back to Immigrations and they stamp you in with a year's extension of stay.

    After that you'd need to buy a re-entry permit if you're gonna leave the country or you'd lose the extension when you left. Re-entry permits are 1000baht for a single and 3800baht for a multiple.

    Believe me it reads like a far more complicated procedure than it is in reality..

    Good Luck.
    Missing bit of info is that we have a 2.5yr old adopted daughter in the same situation, so are as much looking to avoid needing to have her do the 90 day visa runs as much as anything. That's all kind of a maddening situation. Adopted at birth and Thai wife & my name are listed on the legal birth certificate as the parents but, you know...not Thai blood. I don't want to even get imto that (as fascinating as that discussion would almost certainly be).

    Great list of requirements from you. Been here since January and have had the B$400K+ transferred into the bank from a foreign account, under my name only, since April. Good on that score. So getting direction and confirmation on all of this is marvelous. Really want to get this done in one shot, especially since the daughter has to jump through the same hoops.

    Exceedingly helpful. I appreciate your thorough response and the time you placed into this. Beer on me (except it has to be one of those early happy hours since I have to pick the daughter up at school 3pm).

    Best,
    - Frawley

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    ^Unless I'm mistaken (which I could be) you might be able to "piggy back" your daughter on your extension of stay. Although it'd take me perusing the visa regs about kids and a call to your local immigrations office to see if it'd fly

    Either try that or do nothing because as I mentioned in another thread "foreign children" can't be fined for overstay or penalized until they're 15 I believe. Just let her current permission to stay stamp expire.

    No thanx needed, I post on here (and other forums) for one reason only.. To stop the b/s, crap, half-assed advice which litters the inter-web about visa and extensions of stay in the glorious "Land 'O Thais".

    I hate threads that start with "I just heard from my good mate in the bar", "I heard from a high placed official", "My thai wife said her friend said". In fact, to me, they read just like "Henny-penny said, Cocky-locky said, Goosey-poosey said, Gander-lander said, Turkey-lurkey said Foxy-loxy said the sky is going to fall concerning visas/extensions of stay in thailand..

    Good Luck man

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    I didn't want to make a new thread about this so just stuck it here.

    I am reading on several forums about a "new rule" specific to Nong Khai Immigrations.

    IF a foreigner is using an embassy letter for verification of sufficient funds for an extension of stay (65K per month based on being over 50 or 40K a month based on marriage to a thai national) Nong Khai is now implementing a policy for the next extension which says foreigners will transfer in 65K baht a month into a thai bank and show proof of it.

    It also says next year you're going to bring such and such a person as a witness.. I mean WTF?

    This is quite the conundrum seeing as there is NOTHING written into the current Police Order which says a foreigner has to transfer even a single baht into the country to garner an extension. I've used the US Embassy letter every year for my extension of stay and in fact I don't even bank in this country! I just use my ATM card to pull money out each month.

    BTW: it's NOT an official immigrations form as it has no TM number, it's just Nong Khai form.

    I called them today, but my opening gambit of "Can you speak english?" was met with the phone being hung up and then mysteriously ringing busy for the next 30 minutes..

    That's all I got guys..

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    WTF:
    if they seriously consider this an it spreads around the country
    Cambodia is looking more an more attractive.

    Off topic a bit but
    I have a Cambodian GF on a 1 year non B visa with wp.
    past 3 years we have gotten her 1 year visa in Penang, Yes real a company, 5 million Baht, 5 Thai employees etc etc she qualifies for the exteniosn but its such a hassle here in phuket.......

    drove down tuesday and SHE WAS refused the visa, not even a single entry, not even a tourist visa allowed and they almost refused her even a 14 day visa exempt at the border cause she had so many stamps in her passport ( one every 3 months) Had to see the supervisor on duty
    Cambodians and Vietnamese (not to mention just about every African ) can no longer do a visa EXCEPT in their own country. This started in FEB

    So now she has to fly back to Phnom Pehn from Phuket and hopefully get it there . her wp is valid till may 2016 BUT cant legally work without the non B visa.

    winds of change

    I really hate to say this but
    God i wish Thaksin was back
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol or insanity, but they've always worked for me" HST

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    I didn't know where to stick this and it seemed stupid to make a new thread... (Mods move it where you think it belongs)

    Starting Sept 1st, Chaengwattana Immigrations will stop giving queue tickets out at 3:30 and will still close at 4:30 (or when they take care of every queue ticket outstanding).

    They're doing this because some of those areas weren't finished serving customers until 7:30 a full 3 HOURS after Immigrations really closes!!

    A friend went for his ED visa extension a week or so ago, he got there at 2PM or so and got his extension stamped into his passport at 7:45PM!! Then he had to walk all the way to the mouth of Chaengwattana Soi 7 because the free shuttle stops and all the taxis leave that area in front of Immigrations when the government complex closes.

    Anyway, here's a pic of the announcement I took today (sorry it's blurry)

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    Here's a better pic of that notice at Chaengwattana about the queue time changes;

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    not that i ever use the place, but thanks for keep those who do in the loop

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    I went for my annual extension yesterday at Kap Cheong. Sharp contrast from last year. Much more red tape, copy requirements etc. and they only extended until the end of the year pending an inspection of my premises to determine that I actually live there.

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    ^ Yup, living under a military dictatorship led by a moronic general with no shred of empathy towards foreigners, it's bound to become more restrictive towards 'aliens'.

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    ^ I agree and boys in brown threw in a lot more strutting and posturing so we would all know that they are in charge.

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    NZdick1983, in some situations you'd be right with your broad-brush statement, BUT not in this one.

    Prayuth hasn't changed a single rule concerning extensions of stays inside the country. Those changes were cooked up by the head officer at each Immigration office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    I went for my annual extension yesterday at Kap Cheong. Sharp contrast from last year. Much more red tape, copy requirements etc. and they only extended until the end of the year pending an inspection of my premises to determine that I actually live there.
    Read this thread Humbert. Let us know if it's different to your visit.

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    Fair 'nuff TD. I stand corrected.

    *Still think he's pushing from the top down - for stricter regulations across the board though (not just pertaining to Visas).. not only for Farang either, also for Thais too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    I went for my annual extension yesterday at Kap Cheong. Sharp contrast from last year. Much more red tape, copy requirements etc. and they only extended until the end of the year pending an inspection of my premises to determine that I actually live there.
    Read this thread Humbert. Let us know if it's different to your visit.
    What a f**king nightmare! I wish I had seen this thread. I guess the gist of the story is be prepared with fruit baskets, Johnny Black, and cash for diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Read this thread Humbert. Let us know if it's different to your visit.
    Did you end up getting your approval at the end of 30 days? Did you stick you your guns and not give them any tea money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    What a f**king nightmare! I wish I had seen this thread. I guess the gist of the story is be prepared with fruit baskets, Johnny Black, and cash for diesel.
    No. Give them fook all. They just maybe out to make examples of farangs. You give them a gift and it could be seen as a bribe. Pats on the back for weeding out a wrong doer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Did you end up getting your approval at the end of 30 days? Did you stick you your guns and not give them any tea money?
    I went 22 days early to get my extension. Due to them giving me a 30 day under consideration stamp dated from the expiry of my extension I'm now not due to go back to KCI until 22 November. I wanted to go earlier but my missus says I should go when the stamp expires. That is my intention.

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    point of fact<
    ALWAYS go in early
    gives u time to get things together, just in case
    I always do my yearly extension 3-4 weeks early

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard
    ALWAYS go in early gives u time to get things together, just in case I always do my yearly extension 3-4 weeks early
    But do you get the 30 day 'under consideration' stamp at your office?

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    I did my renewal in June (well after some of the unfortunate incidents in this thread) at Pattaya and had no problem whatsoever. Nothing new, same Officer as last year, in and out without any serious frustration.

    PS Only posted this now because my non-problems post date some of the problems people had at other offices.

    Stories like these make me so happy I don't own anything here I could not afford to leave behind. This shit is frightening, a bunch of pathetic sycophants trying to out-do each other.
    Last edited by BobR; 05-11-2015 at 10:29 PM.

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    Some guys out here on a local forum are saying that they showed up for the visit and wanted to see a medical certificate. Nuts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard
    ALWAYS go in early gives u time to get things together, just in case I always do my yearly extension 3-4 weeks early
    But do you get the 30 day 'under consideration' stamp at your office?
    Nope;
    phuket is same day service for retirement but they do 30 days observation for marriage/Non B 1 year extension and all my married friends go in at least 3 weeks before it is due.

    Gives u time, not a bad thing

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