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    What is the best way to go about a visa when flying in? Can you save time by pre-booking your visa?

    I guess I'll be staying 2 nights, so I can be at the embassy first thing the 2nd morning, and hopefully have that afternoon.

    Any reccomendations on hotels / bars / casinos ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
    What is the best way to go about a visa when flying in? Can you save time by pre-booking your visa?

    I guess I'll be staying 2 nights, so I can be at the embassy first thing the 2nd morning, and hopefully have that afternoon.

    Any reccomendations on hotels / bars / casinos ?
    DaoSavahn is the big proper resort on the river and is nice enough with a big pool.
    Tad expensive (relatively).
    Bangyai stayed at a nice hotel which was very reasonable, check out his thread.
    The casino is shite, the bars are shite.

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    Stayed at the dao savanh about a week ago , standard room is ok, $64 a night, comfy bed, a bit of a stroll to what passes for nightlife though, and hard to find a tuk tuk after about 8 at night, I did see a new hotel called something like New Sean Sabai and would of checked in there but it only had single beds , fuk that I'm I large mammal and like a decent scratcher, it's quite close to the river and the old Mekong hotel, some sin dared and Lao BBQ places opposite to.

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    Personally would rather cut my wrists and bleed out, rather than stay 2 nights in Sav.
    Remember consulate has moved, fair way out of town center, get a tuk tuk, 500 BT for the day, fined a hotel with booze or stock up.
    Get to the consulate before 11 am, do the visa, pick it up at 3 pm an get out of the place.

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    In other news; I did finally call Savannakhet and confirmed they will accept a marriage certificate from abroad for a multi-entry Non-O,
    IF
    • you have your foreign marriage certificate translated into Thai
    • you have that translation certified by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    Or at least that's what I was told when I called them.

    They didn't seem all that sure on if you needed the Kor Ror 22 form (the form which registers marriages for thaiz who are married abroad).

    Your mileage may vary.. I know someone headin' up there next month and who married his thai wife in the UK, yet never bothered to register the marriage here. I guess I'll know more when he reports back..
    "Whoever said `Money can`t buy you love or joy` obviously was not making enough money." <- quote by Gene $immon$ of the rock group KISS

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    Okay, just reporting back.

    Yesterday I met a guy from the US who married his thai wife in america.

    He just successfully returned from Savannakhet and got a year long multi-entry Non-O visa in using the foreign marriage certificate AND the thai translation certified by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He did have his wife's thai i/d card, the copy of her listing in the thai house book, but it flew thru without a hiccup.

    He also had his thai wife with him, dunno if that made a difference or not..

    That's all the info I got...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    Tarquin Chucklefucc:
    The short answer is yes, you gotta lug the kids there, because they're the reason you're getting an extension of stay..

    The question(s) I have are;
    So you're not getting an extension of stay based on marriage to a Thai national right?

    I take that to mean that you're not married to the children's mother? Instead you're going for it because you're the father of half-thai kids, legally adopted full blood thai kids thru the court system, or have foreign children in school here in Thailand.

    IF the reason is because you're the father of half thai kids, do you have "legal parental rights"? Just having your name on the birth certificate doesn't bestow any parental rights on you in the eyez of the thaiz, whether you support them 100% or not. Do you have the ledger notation where they were registered at the local Amphur with you as the father OR did you and their mother go to court and get the court order which gives you at least 50% parental rights? Those two documents are the crux of what is needed to garner extensions of stay based on supporting kids.

    There are two clauses which you could "qualify" for a yearly extension of stay based on kids. One is Clause 2.11 where the kids are attending school and the other is 2.18 known as the "family" clause. Each have different criteria as far as financials. Unless I'm mistaken, both of those clauses will require you to have legally acquired parental rights, in addition to being listed as the father on the birth certificate.

    I'd need more information to really pin down what you're required to show and what you'd need as documentation. Still any way you push that extension, the kids would hafta at least be there when you apply..
    Todd, I am planning to file for an extension of stay based on supporting my son who half Thai and half western. He is currently attending school in Udon Thani. The reason I prefer to do this over basing it on marriage is that is seems much easier to me, especially in Udon. They seem to want a lot more documentation now for a married extension than supporting a Thai national offspring. I did go to the US embassy and declare I would support him until he turns 18 and signed some documents, which were required for him to have a US passport and Social Security card, both which he now has.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Rick, child route may not be the way to go, depending on the immigration office, I was knocked back for one, Ubon. They wanted a court order for custody of the kids, spouse visa or nothing, didn't have money laying round for that.
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    I guess it boils down to the immigration office. I think I have tried this in the past and was asked why not obtain an extension based on marriage? It was awhile back, so things may have changed by now. Whenever I have started the extension by marriage process, I have just gotten aggrevated and took a trip over to Vientianne to get a 90 day visa.
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    Getting a yearly extension of stay based on marriage to a thai national is NOT fraught with peril. It is paperwork (support documentation) intensive, and you get a 30 day under review stamp (when immigrations is supposed to make the sojourn to your house to see if you're really married), before you go back and get the year's extension stamped into your passport.

    I dunno if you'll be able to get an extension of stay based on being the father of a half-thai, even if your name is on the birth certificate (which means nothing as far as parental rights) and FWIW; your son holding a US passport cuts no ice with immigrations. It takes either having you listed as the father in the local amphur's log book (when the child usually has to be 8 or older so they can answer questions) OR going thru family court with your thai wife and getting recognized as the father and sharing 50% of the parental rights by court order.

    As I said, an extension of stay based on marriage ain't that hard to push thru. It just takes giving them the paperwork they want in the order they want it, and then waiting the 30 day under review period out. I'm sure you could do it.

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    Tod. I'll dig out my old passport and show you a few 'under review' stamps!

    I think that the first time I applied, I was 'under fookin' review' for 4 months.

    Actually, just had a peek...22nd Sept- 11th Dec.

    It was the fact that I had to travel from Ch-Am to Samutsakorn that really pissed me off.

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    "charleyboy" that is so pathetic that I have nothing to say, except...

    There in lies my main beef with the "powerz-that-be" at Thai Immigrations. There is no rhyme or reason for different zones and different offices in those zones doing things other than the way they're supposed to be done.

    Those little fiefdomz make up rules willy-nilly, change the goal post when ever they want, and some honestly get a great deal of satisfaction in making foreigners jump thru imaginary hoops that just plain don't exist in writing anywhere..

    I saw a post from another forum where in Ubon (I think) they have a sign at immigrations which says something along the lines of
    "foreigners using an embassy letter for proof of financial requirements are also required to present ATM receipts or bank statements showing 65K baht a month is transferred into the kingdom"
    Now there is NO rule written in the regs that says, you need to bring baht one into this country if you are going the verification of funds from abroad by your embassy.

    It's just some wing-nut mid level official thinking up another way to move the bar..

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    I had better be nice to the trouble and strife then, she recently sold her land, so now I plan to get her loan me, 400K to deposit in the bank. Until I get the marriage visa extension sorted.

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    Well "peterpan", like the topic of this thread suggests;

    You could wing your way to Savannakhet and get a year long multi-entry Non-O visa based on marriage to a thai national without having to borrow ANY money from your thai significant other...

    True you'd hafta border bounce every 90 days, but you'd be good to go for 15 months and NOT beholden to your wife either! Even if it went tits up down the road the visa would still be good..

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    Update on Sav non O visa.
    went yesterday they are still issuing 90 day and 1 year multi entry O. Bad news same day service will stop on the 2nd of February in a few days time. Handed over my UK marriage certificate with 2 copies, no translation or verification required. As long as its in English its fine said the nice lady.
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    Even with them doing away with the same day service; it's still hands down the most "user friendly" thai consulate in S/E Asia for Non-O visas...

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    shortly i will be residing in ubon for the foreseeable future, and i will will be doing my 90 day border runs to laos. for the last couple of years i have been getting a 12 month extension based on marriage, but couldn't be arsed this time so will get a non o multi from sav, and then have a bit of a jolly every 3 months. when i border run every 90 days will i still get a full page stamp on the laos side,even though it will be a short stay for about 2-3 days? if so, i better think of getting a new passport

    cheers

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    Yes, the Laos visa is the same even f you go for one day. I wiĺl be making my 90 day run on Thursday and I just go into Laos, pay the 1500 baht for a visa and then turn the corner and come right back into Thailand without having to stay in Laos overnight. The entire process only costs me the 1500 baht plus fuel from Udon to Nong Khai and takes about an hour.

    You may want to visit your embassy and obtain additional pages into your passport if you are planning to make numerous 90 day runs to Laos.

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    ^ thanks for the info. i had a feeling that was the procedure. i was hoping it was like myanmar with just a small in and out ink stamp.as i'm in bkk at the moment maybe i will go to the embassy as you suggested.

    thanks again

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    Depending on whether you like travelling around Thailand, you may be able to get a bus from Ubon to Mae Sot.
    I know that buses run from Mae Sot to Mukdahan, Aranyaprathet and Pattaya etc.

    500bt for Burmese stamps plus approx 1,000bt return fare = same amount for a Lao visa. But you don't use up a full page for it.

    It can be a long tiring slog at times just going to Mae Sot from Bkk, so I hate to think how long it'll take from Ubon.
    But, it's always nice to know what other options one has if a particular border closes for whatever reason.

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