Is it that easy ?

**Thetyim** · 25-01-2014, 10:03 AM

Multi entry has no limit on the number of entries as far as I know.

With an extension you can get a multi-entry re-entry permit which again is unlimited entries as far as I know.

**toddaniels** · 26-01-2014, 10:28 AM

"Perota";
Well, because you're hold P/R status in Hong Kong, you shouldn't have too much trouble jumpin' thru the hoops to get a visa.

The way it works is; There are just two types of Non-Immigrant Type-O visas which are the type issued for either retirement, marriage to a thai nation or supporting a half-thai child.

The first is a single entry Non-O which gives you a permission to stay of 90 days, that's it.

The second is a year long multi-entry Non-O, which gives you a permission to stay of 90 days, after which you exit/re-enter thailand and get another 90 days. In fact every time you exit-re-enter thailand you get another 90 days permission to stay.

There are no "pick the number of exits/entrie"s you want, it's either a single entry or a multi-entry. Multi-entry means come and go as much as you want during the validity of the visa (which is the dated on the VISA that says "must be utilized" or "must enter the country" by XX/XX/XXXX date).

If the lady was quite nice as you say (something I question but will take your post at face value), see if you can get a multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa based on being married to a Thai national, especially as you'll be comin' in and outta the country so much.

Now like the poster known as "Thetyim" said; IF you can get a single entry Non-Immigrant Type-O visa in HK based on being married to a thai; you can certainly apply for a yearly extension stay inside the country based on retirement. BOTH of those classifications (retirement/married to a thai) are Non-Immigrant Type-O visas.

Contrary to what other posers <sic> err posters said, getting a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai national is not fraught with peril, it just takes more paperwork, in fact it takes a LOT more.

Years ago, there was no need to "season money" in a Thai bank account, no need to show that the marriage was "real", just show up with a bank book and the marriage certificate and presto-chango, on the day you applied you got a years extension of stay based on being married to a thai.

Obviously this lead to a LOT of spurious marriages for convenience, which is why the regulations changed..

Now you show, the KorRor2, KorRor3, your wife's house book, a map to your house, pictures of the wedding, pictures of you and your wife standing in front of the address numbers on your house, a few sundry pictures of you and your wife sitting around the house, a bank letter stating you have 400K baht in a thai bank for the requiste amount of time, OR proof of funds from abroad stating you get 40K baht a month.

When you supply this mountain of paperwork Thai Immigrations will give you a 30 day permission to stay stamp which means your request for a yearly extension is "under review". In theory they're supposed to make a personal visit to your house, make sure you live there, talk to your neighbors, etc. In Bangkok, (where I have my experience dealing with Immigrations) this rarely happens. After 30 days you go back out to Immigration and get the rest of the years permission to stay stamped into your passport.

It's NOT tough, it's just a different set of criteria than a extension based on retirement.. This is Thailand, and Thai bureaucracy LOVES paperwork.. It's just that, paperwork..

BTW: there is NO new legislation about not being able to open a bank account without a work permit. That's just an excuse the thais use to say you can't open a bank account. The manager of the bank branch sets the policy. If one branch says you can't open a bank account, go down the street to the next one. It's hit or miss, but I'd wager you wouldn't have to go to more than 2 or 3 different bank branches to be able to open an account.

Good Luck. ...

**Norton** · 26-01-2014, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

The marriage option is fraught with problems when you extend.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Contrary to what other posers err posters said, getting a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai national is not fraught with peril, it just takes more paperwork, in fact it takes a LOT more.

Perhaps if you'd read what the poser said you'd notice problems was used, not peril. The problems as you point out are the increased amount of paperwork. Add to that, if you have to get extension in an Immigration Office somewhere in Nakorn Nowhere, you may be subject to paperwork requirements of the clerk doing your extension.

The retirement option is the way to go.

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**toddaniels** · 05-02-2014, 09:23 AM

Sorry Norton; my fingers were faster than my brain...

You're totally right, the Immigrations officers in Nakhon Nowhere are a persnickety bunch of thais who like to "flex their muscles" when it comes to foreigners married to Thai nationals.. They can pull any rule they want to out of the hat, and unless you're thai is good enough to call Immigrations Hotline and report them while you're sitting there, you're pretty screwed.

Another good reason to use the retirement extension of stay if you can is; on the off chance that your marriage goes "sideways" and you divorce, your extension of stay based on marriage to a thai national expires the second you sign the divorce decree at the Amphur!

There's nothing that says you can't be on an extension of stay based on retirement and be married to a Thai too.

That way the visa isn't "wife dependent", lose the wife you still have the visa..

**Perota** · 06-02-2014, 08:49 PM

One point that just came to my mind, to qualify for the marriage visa, do you have to be married in Thailand ?

Again according to the lady at the HK embassy, the copy of our HK wedding certificate is enough but she added that I will probably need to have it translated to apply for extension in Thailand. We never officially registered our marriage in Thailand, will that cause a problem ?

**baldrick** · 06-02-2014, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Perota

Does anybody has experience with this kind of APEC visa ?

I had an APEC business travelers card from Australia - but it was only valid for 3 years - then I looked at renewing it but the rules had changed and were way over the top

**crepitas** · 07-02-2014, 07:57 AM

5555..was watching Blue Sky intermittently last night.....scrolling subtitles quoted Suthep as saying in reference to the Indian deportation issue that:

" THAILAND WELCOMES FORIEGNERS WITH OPEN ARMS ..AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE THEY GET TO STAY..So no worries...

**Perota** · 07-02-2014, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by Perota

Does anybody has experience with this kind of APEC visa ?

I had an APEC business travelers card from Australia - but it was only valid for 3 years - then I looked at renewing it but the rules had changed and were way over the top

Maybe the condition to get it depend of the place where you apply. I renewed mine less than one year ago. I just filled a form and wrote a letter basically saying "please renew my card as the old one has expired" and that was it.

**Perota** · 09-12-2014, 09:16 PM

I got my visa 90 days ago and it's now time for the 90 days reporting. But now is the confusing part. I read somewhere that you should report 90 days after your last entry in Thailand (I've a multi entry visa). As I entered Thailand for the last time 45 days ago, does it mean that I still have 45 days before my 90 days reporting ?

**pseudolus** · 10-12-2014, 08:25 AM

Don't get it in HK though. Go somewhere else and get a 1yr.

**Perota** · 10-12-2014, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Don't get it in HK though. Go somewhere else and get a 1yr.

There is a misunderstanding here. I got my first "marriage" visa in HK, 90 days, no problem. Then in Bangkok I applied for a 1 year extension, no problem either. Hence the tittle of the thread "is it that easy ?" Yes, it is.

Now it's time for the 90 days reporting. The thing that is not clear is 90 days from when ? From the date I got the one year extension ? Or from the date of my last entry in Thailand, end of October ? (I have a multi entry) .

If it is from the date of the visa, I should report this week. If it is from the date of the last entry, I have until end of Jan. Anyway I'll go tomorrow to Chaeng Wattana, I need to ask them a residence certificate for my driving licence anyway.

**toddaniels** · 10-12-2014, 10:37 AM

The way 90 day reporting works in Bangkok IS;

The very first yearly extension of stay you get counts as your first 90 day report too. They usually staple a little paper in your passport saying when your next 90 day report is due.

If you exit the country BEFORE that 90 day report date you don't have to report obviously.. When you re-enter the country you start the 90 day clock again.

You can do your 90 day reporting 14 days early and up to 7 days late without incurring the minimum 2000baht failure to report fine.

However many people misunderstand the above and think if they are leaving the country a few days after their 90 day report is due they don't have to report. This is false and the way it works is IF you are in the country for 90 days you are obligated to report, (even if you're only here one more day).

Now that all the land/air borders and the 90 day reporting computers country wide are connected, they will catch that you failed to report by the history of your exits/entries.

If I read your post right, after you got the yearly extension of stay you left the country and came back in Oct. That would have "reset" the 90 day clock and you'd report in January if you don't leave the country before then.

Hope it helps,

**Perota** · 10-12-2014, 01:54 PM

^ Very clear, thank you.

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