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    Fixed my LONG Overstay

    Before many of u verbally bash me again regarding my Overstay, let me just say that I didn't have a choice. Well, I did have a choice, but I chose the survival of my family's day to day survival over fixing my Overstay.

    That being said, please dispense w/ the comments about why did I Overstay because I've heard them all before here in my past posts. I just want to share my experience and perhaps offer help to those in need. 1 member here is in a similar situation and I have already informed him.

    I had near 2 years Overstay. I researched many "agents" and I was told that I had no option bu to go to the airport and leave. NOT TRUE.
    On Wednesday I traveled by private car w/ the wife and daughter to Aranyaprathet, Poipet. We were escorted to the front of the lines (much to the confusion and anger by many customers!). The officials took my cash, conversed w/ my agent and said ok- go have lunch and come back.

    We went eating (paid for by my agent), went back and I made the walk thru the Immigration Office, across the street and into the other building where they took my pic and Wai-ed me through.
    No scolding, no questions- easy and fast.

    Total fee: 50,000 Baht. Not a small amount, but a better alternative to the Bankok Hilton, and cheaper/more convenient to flights to and fro. If anyone has similar problems, or knows of a situation, I highly recommend the man who escorted me. He of course also does non-O marriage, etc.

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    Well done! Excellent info for those in need of similar services.

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    the best police force that money can buy

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    50,000 baht?

    Are you mad?
    1. Go to pattaya immigration.
    2. Pay 20,000 baht for overstay and a 3 day extension. (Or just do it in the airport)
    3. Go to don muang and fly return same day to vientienne for 30 day visa.
    4. extend or convert as needed.
    Total cost 26,000 baht plus drive time.

    You got had, agents are for suckers.

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    Whatever- I did it already. I'm happy, "got had" or not.

    Necron99- would have been nice to see u contribute some useful info like that when those in need post about such things!

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    Strange story.

    Seeing as overstay penalties are 500baht a day for the first 40 days and cap out at 20,000 baht. If you overstay 41 days or 41 years your fine is still the same.

    I doubt you needed an agent to hold your hand thru the process. Believe me you ain't the first foreigner in the country to overstay, and are highly unlikely to be the last.

    Maybe the extra money you paid the agent was for queue jumping, I dunno.

    Seeing as you say you went to Immigrations I assume you didn't cross the border.

    Just a coupla questions;
    • what type of permission to stay stamp do you have now?
    • how long is it good for?
    • what documentation did you provide to secure it?
    Those things most definitely come into play down the road. There's no shortage of foreigners using agents arranging "quick fixes", only to have it come back and bite them in the ass down the line. I'm not saying your situation is spurious, or you didn't follow the rules to secure your extension of stay, I'm only saying I've seen it a LOT.

    Glad you got the over stay sorted out. Still sounds like a melodramatic story really.

    Overstays aren't the problem here. It's getting caught up in other things while on overstay which throws you off the rails.

    Still good luck..
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    ^ Todd,
    I've heard so many rumors and stories of changes, PLUS I have a collection of Overstay stamps in my passport that I was getting quite stressed out. On the wrong day coupled with the wrong agent, I could see a problem if I went alone again.

    Documentation provided: only my passport
    Type of visa/stay: 15 days from Cambo

    But now I can modify in Bkk, so I'm happy.

    Again: perhaps I got robbed- don't care. I'm legally safe at home with my wife and our daughter

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    ^actually you didn't do too badly. I recently helped an elderly friend sort a similar overstay, it cost about 41k baht after all was said and done, including a fresh retirement visa.
    I used my local Phuket lawyer who is quite good, my friend never had to set foot in immigration, a visit to the hospital for a regular medical checkup and a letter from the doctor for a 90 day medical extension visa was initially required to get the ball rolling.
    Basically it broke down as follows, 20k for the fine, 8k tea money to immigration, 8k lawyer fee, 3500 for visas, 600 for doctor visit and letter, 200 for bank letter.
    And there was no notation made in his passport indicating an overstay.

    Did you get an overstay note in your passport?

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    what do you mean?


    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    only to have it come back and bite them in the ass down the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by jons557 View Post

    We went eating (paid for by my agent),
    You mean paid for by you for sure. 50,000 baht...robbed blind.

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    Mr. Earl- VERY good question, I never even thought about that. No, there is no new Overstay stamp in my Passport. But I did have to sign the obligitory receipt for paying the fine.

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    Primo- no, my eyesight is intact and I gave him the money for fixing my visa problems. So, literally not robbed blind :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by jons557 View Post
    Mr. Earl- VERY good question, I never even thought about that. No, there is no new Overstay stamp in my Passport. But I did have to sign the obligitory receipt for paying the fine.
    It's actually an important detail. The guys who pay the fine airport whilst leaving the country get a notation in their passport which could hinder future visa applications at consulates outside Thailand.
    The third party back-channel seems the better way (even though it costs more) as there is no record kept of the transgression.
    You can even make more serious offenses such a DUI's disappear in a similar way leaving no record which could affect future visa applications. Another friend made his DUI disappear for 30k baht a few years ago. You need a decent and fairly well connected lawyer to make it happen.
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    So you paid 30k to an agent to sort your 20k problem.............

    The mind boggles.

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    So what happened on Wednesday is a good thing? No stamp is good is what you're saying?

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    Umm no- 20K for Overstay fine, the rest was for transit to and from my home, a meal apparently, the agent, and grease the palms of those who could easily take me away if they felt like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    So you paid 30k to an agent to sort your 20k problem.............

    The mind boggles.
    Not really since he didn't have to leave the country and now has no record of an overstay, A good chunk of that 30k went to the immigration chief to grease the process. I'd say the "agent" overcharged but only by a little, and certainly worth it to avoid the stress of dealing with the situation at the airport.

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    Thank u Earl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jons557 View Post
    So what happened on Wednesday is a good thing? No stamp is good is what you're saying?

    Thailand doesnt care about overstays, pay your fine and on your way.
    If at some point they did, its cheaper to get a new passport that pay some goon 30k.
    In any event, there is a record of your overstay, stamp or not.
    You signed a receipt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    So you paid 30k to an agent to sort your 20k problem.............

    The mind boggles.
    Not really since he didn't have to leave the country and now has no record of an overstay, A good chunk of that 30k went to the immigration chief to grease the process. I'd say the "agent" overcharged but only by a little, and certainly worth it to avoid the stress of dealing with the situation at the airport.
    Huh?
    What stress is there in going to a desk set up for the purpose, paying 20k and 6 grand for a 2 hour return flight?
    They dont grill you or berate you or lock you up.
    They just take your money.

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    "In any event, there is a record of your overstay, stamp or not.
    You signed a receipt."

    Hmm, I dunno. Stamps seem permanent. Receipts as proof of payment tend to "disappear" in Thailand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jons557
    Before many of u verbally bash me again regarding my Overstay, let me just say that I didn't have a choice. Well, I did have a choice, but I chose the survival of my family's day to day survival over fixing my Overstay.
    You must be doing a hell of a lot better today than the last 3 years. Paid more than double the fine. Please begin to think ahead more than of how how to fix a problem you chose to avoid.

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    so after 50k your now legal and here on a 15 day stamp..................

    For less than 30k you could have exited the country via flight to one nearby and returned same day and would have a 30 day stamp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    So you paid 30k to an agent to sort your 20k problem.............

    The mind boggles.
    Not really since he didn't have to leave the country and now has no record of an overstay, A good chunk of that 30k went to the immigration chief to grease the process. I'd say the "agent" overcharged but only by a little, and certainly worth it to avoid the stress of dealing with the situation at the airport.
    Huh?
    What stress is there in going to a desk set up for the purpose, paying 20k and 6 grand for a 2 hour return flight?
    They dont grill you or berate you or lock you up.
    They just take your money.
    You're forgeting the visa cost plus the assured costs of staying overnight in KL, Penang or wherever, now you have a big overstay notation in your passport which is a cause for denial of a visa at many consulates if they don't like the way you look or smell. IMO it's much safer going through a third party like a lawyer or agent.
    I prefer the lawyer, a good lawyer can get you off just about anything.

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    To Necron: ok- perhaps you are not reading everything, or just not understanding it all. I could'nt afford plane tickets for 3 people (me + wife and daughter)on short notice- so I went this route instead. But again- where were u w/ all this great information when I posted about this last year or so?
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