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    Maybe someone should posta sticky about how to ask for advice.

    Be clear and specific, offer up no personal or additional information that may open you up for critique or ridicule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post
    Wow "wizard" you surely have this country "all figured out". Now how you managed to do so in the incredibly short amount of time you've been here is truly a tribute to your intelligence. Oh that we all could be like you <-NOT.

    Sheesh, first complaining about paying 500 baht for a "free service" (90 day reporting) and then in the same breath bragging about it as if you’ve got the keys to the kingdom, that's funny man...

    Then you go on and brag you drive 30K kilometers a year here, and about the amount of "fines" you've paid not to be "officially fined".. Again pretty funny..

    Interestingly enough, IF you indeed have a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai AND also have a multiple re-entry permit, which I gather is what you have given the price you quoted paying (1900baht yearly extension of stay, 3800baht multiple re-entry permit = 5700baht) you can easily avoid doing a 90 day report.

    Simply leave Thailand, get stamped out, enter Cambodia, get stamped in, turn around get stamped out and re-enter Thailand. You'll get stamped for the remaining time on your extension of stay (the balance of the year).

    You only have to do a 90 day report IF you stay in Thailand longer than 90 days. Running for the border before you hit 90 days and re-entering Thailand resets the clock. In theory you could do this and NEVER hafta do a 90 day report in the entire year.

    Still I think paying for a Cambodian visa, petrol to-from the border and miscellaneous expenses will be more than even the "expedited service fee" you so willingly pay, all the while beating your chest and boasting just how well you've got the "system figured out" and complaining about it too.

    Good on you for "getting up to speed" and "dialed in" on how things operate here so quickly. You're truly a legend in your own mind!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz View Post
    If there isn't any great difference, I would rather cross the border, buy some cheap ciggies, have a go at the casino and other things and return again the same day. Would make a nice day out as well and not having to sit in an overcrowded Kapchoeng immigration office.
    Go to a Thai consulate or Embassy outside of Thailand. (Except Cambodia, I hear they're quite strict with all visas for the past few years now).

    Get a 12 month multi-entry Non-O visa based on visiting your wife.
    Return to Thailand and every 90 days do a border run to Laos or Cambodia.

    This will last for 15 months without ever dealing with an immigration office in Thailand.

    You're welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Master Cool View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz View Post
    If there isn't any great difference, I would rather cross the border, buy some cheap ciggies, have a go at the casino and other things and return again the same day. Would make a nice day out as well and not having to sit in an overcrowded Kapchoeng immigration office.
    Go to a Thai consulate or Embassy outside of Thailand. (Except Cambodia, I hear they're quite strict with all visas for the past few years now).

    Get a 12 month multi-entry Non-O visa based on visiting your wife.
    Return to Thailand and every 90 days do a border run to Laos or Cambodia.

    This will last for 15 months without ever dealing with an immigration office in Thailand.

    You're welcome.

    Errrrrr he can already exit every 90 days instead of reporting every 90 days but doing so will cost money for Cambodian visa every time which makes zero sense when his reporting is free.

    The Oracle of Oz is just an impatient all knowing idiot whose chooses instead to bribe the immigration officials to supposedly speed up the 5 minute process. If he was not so lazy and got to immigration in the morning he would be in and out fairly quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Errrrrr he can already exit every 90 days instead of reporting every 90 days but doing so will cost money for Cambodian visa every time which makes zero sense when his reporting is free.
    When his 12 month Extension of Stay is up he will need to go to get a multi-entry non-imm O if he does not wish to get another 12 month extension of stay at immigration.

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    Ah, I see, I've entered an old men's club.

    Thanks for the great info on a simple question. Wouldn't know what do do without all the clever remarks, speed vs distance experts, speeding fine consultants, people questioning "IF" I have a marriage visa, expert forum writers, armchair specialists etc.

    To ridicule someone from behind a computer screen is very easy (and safe). But I do not need your ridicule, just an answer to a question if there were other, easier possibilities. That's all.

    @Fondles, I'm not lazy, I can't be bothered to get out of bed for "saving" 500 baht. But I guess that after all those years in Thailand, you have never ever paid any tea money.

    Good luck to you all finding a new person to ridicule. I go watch the paint dry.
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    Wizard I have been here since they started enforcing the TM laws about 12 years ago. I have never paid a dime in bribes, nor do I know anyone who has. Its a standard reporting process with no pictures and but one standard form.

    If you chose to pay a bribe fine. But you are in reality the only person I know doing this in the whole of the Kingdom of Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz View Post

    @Fondles, I'm not lazy, I can't be bothered to get out of bed for "saving" 500 baht. But I guess that after all those years in Thailand, you have never ever paid any tea money.
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    You are 100% correct, I have never paid tea money for a service that is free.

    I must laugh though you cannot be bothered getting out of bed to save 500b but you have no issue with starting a thread to complain about paying it.

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    there is NO tea money if ur stopped by the police in Phuket, u get a ticket which means u have to go to the police station and pay it.

    I have no problem going every 90 days to report, drive to Phuket town in mid morning, in an out in less than 15 minutes and thats that.

    Whats the big deal??
    I do object to u paying 500 baht for this!!!!

    I was once doing my report and they guy in front gave the immigration 100 baht, I looked at the immigration guy an smiled and said "Farang Ba" an he laughed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Maybe someone should posta sticky about how to ask for advice.
    I would think just the opposite; How to take advice would be a better fit in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz View Post
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    To ridicule someone from behind a computer screen is very easy (and safe). But I do not need your ridicule, just an answer to a question if there were other, easier possibilities. That's all.
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    Its doesn't matter whether you have an Non'o' or visa extension based on retirement or marriage you have you will have to do 90 day reports or 90 day boarder run.If you wish to live here full time and only plan to leave Thailand for the odd holiday ( re-entry permit must be obtained before you leave)then a marriage extension is your best option.If you have the income( 60k a month) or money in the bank ( 800k ) to get the Retirement extension then even less paper work in needed.
    With the Non'O' you must leave every 90 days meaning you will pay for a visa to enter Cambodia.
    As poorfalang pointed out....
    1.if you get the marriage visa done once a year/quite cheap/ then on its a 90 day report/free/any office

    2.you want the border run? it will cost/you will fill up your passport very fast/

    The last time I did my 90 day report I arrived at 8.30 ( T.M. 47 filled out at home the night before) and I was in Staffords ordering a Full English by 9.20

    As lockman pointed out....go Tue, Wed, or possibly Thursday AM and stir-clear of Mondays and Fridays.
    If you don't want to get up early then go after diner when it should be quieter .
    I remember the first time I did my marriage extension here in Surin , I had no internet forums or sites to help with info and it took a few trips before all the paper-work was sorted out. Most of the problems I see people having at the Immigration Office is of their own making and then they blame the Immigration Officers who are only doing their job.
    Now every year I turn up with the correct paper-work and I'm normally in and out in a hour or two.And if they do ask you for some additional paper-work just smile and do as they ask..........Simple
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    It sounds like the op is young, dumb, and immature. When one post ANYTHING on a public forum, especially a rant asking a question and ranting because he pays a bribe, he can expect many kinds of answers. When he grows up he'll realize that yes, some people can be rude, but I've found answers to my questions on TD to be logical and very helpful. That's not to say that I agreed with some however, but most were very helpful. Maybe if he give his attitude some attention, people will respond in a positive way to his childish questions.

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    Wow Ralph, it's amazing how you can get a persons age, IQ and personality form posts on a web forum, there is a great future for you. You should work for CSI.

    I'm also not quite sure where members get it from that I complained? about the money. I mentioned it, but the question was if there is an easier way, not a cheaper way!

    You all see it as bribes, it's not a bribe, I don't ask the immigration officer to bend the rules for me, just to speed up the process. People who have been to Kapchoeng will know there is a plastic container ON the desk for "tips". (Yes it actually says "Tip Box")

    People that think that a 90 day report should take longer then 10 minutes, what for? It is a statement where you give your address, they should just stamp it, tear off one half and put some more staples in your passport, why should that take 1 or 2 hours? sitting, waiting in a crowded immigration office. Time is money.

    I am not a very patient person, I truly admit that, but there is nothing wrong with being
    not patient. If anywhere (in the world) it takes too long, I walk. Why do people pay extra for priority boarding? VIP tickets etc. There must be a few like me around. Not being patient, has nothing to do with not being polite!

    People that live in Thailand and never have paid an "extra fee" or "tea money"? I doubt that. If I could pay 1,000 baht for someone to collect my passport and paperwork at home, get it stamped and bring it back, I would do that (and they would know that you actually live at the address you write on the piece of paper!).

    I worked all my working life in the Hospitality Industry, you're the kind that do not tip as well, because you already paid for the service. I have always enjoyed a tip and always tipped.

    But anyway, thanks for the "positive" response on a normal question, I'll leave it at that, I have better things to do, watch the paint dry and grass grow.

    Cheers!
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    You do not have to be there in person to do your 90 day reporting.

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    If you pay a "tip" to ANY kind of law enforcement officer, it's a bribe. Plain and simple. I know of no one in the 12 years I've been here that has "tipped" any immigration or any other kind of officer except one dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    You do not have to be there in person to do your 90 day reporting.
    We report by mail every 90 days. Very easy, the secretary copies a few things and mails them off. From the OP it sounds like this isn't accepted in his immigration office in Isahn.

    Is it only available in BKK and bigger offices or all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Master Cool View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    You do not have to be there in person to do your 90 day reporting.
    We report by mail every 90 days. Very easy, the secretary copies a few things and mails them off. From the OP it sounds like this isn't accepted in his immigration office in Isahn.

    Is it only available in BKK and bigger offices or all?

    I was not talking about reporting by mail.

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    ^ snardy (new word?) comment.

    Some people have others (motosai taxi riders, secretaries etc. take all their docs to immigration for them), some report by mail. Both require the same amount of effort on my part.

    ie. None.

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    Best solution so far.
    Give the 500 baht to someone who actually does something to earn it.

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    Think the guys who use the motosai driver pay him 200b. About a 30km round trip from Chaeng Wattana.

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    I was in Pattaya a while back and my 90 day report was due ,I use a Visa-shop Soi Buakaow,dropped it in the morning and pick it up the next day......100 baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Doing border runs every 90 days with a multi entry non o will be more expensive than trips to immigration. Your two passport plan won't work out the way you think.
    a year multi-entry "O" costs approx $150, and you can only get it outside of thailand; so every 15 months you will need to travel to another country

    each trip across the border costs $10, to Myanmar, Cambodia I don't know

    and using two passports is a waste of time, they give you back-to-back visas
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