Thread: leave thai, get new passport, return to apply for marriage visa

Just posting for confirmation.

My marriage visa is due for renewal at the beginning of April. The wife and I are planning a trip to Canada for the month of April, partially because my Canadian passport expires in August, so I can renew my passport while I am back home.

Upon re-entering Thai, I will get a 30 day tourist stamp, and can then proceed to Laksi to apply for a new marriage visa as per normal?

I ask because last year I applied and received a marriage visa while then-currently on an ed visa, and so just wanted to be sure about going to apply for a new marriage visa on a 30 day stamp, because if I remember right it took them nearly 30 days/a month last year to process the marriage visa.

Does your wife have a Cdn Visa (Tourist or Landed immigrant)? I've recently met several Cdns who had a lot of trouble getting Cdn Visas for their legally married Thai Wives. A Thai Gf ... forget it. Very tough to get a Cdn Tourist Visa, unless she is a Govt Registered Teacher of Nurse.

I thought you needed a non-o.

You need a Non O visa to get ant long Term visa. The only time you can get a Non O in Thailand is when you wish to get a retirement Visa. You get a Non O for 2000 Baht and then buy the Rt Visa for 1900 Baht. If it's a marriage visa for you and a Thai lady you need either 400,000 Baht in the bank for two months and for three months on every subsequent application, or you have to show proof of an income of 40,000 Baht a month with a letter of confirmation from your embassy and proof of the source of your funds. You also need a Kor Ror 2, proof from the district office that you are still a happy couple, and the Kor Ror 3, the original Thai marriage certificate. You can have a foreign MC but you still need the Kor Ror 2. Other requirements include a photo of you and your wife and a photo of the house number where you live along with a hand drann map of where you live.

You can get a marriage visa outside Thailand for twelve months but you must leave Thailand every 90 days. If you want a short term O visa from the Thai Embassy in your country take enough of your marriager details etc and explain that you will extend the visa on arrival. You'll end up with 15 months.

Good luck

The Visa only takes a day to get processed. Drop it off in the morning, pick up next afternoon.
If you come on a 30 day, probably will have to go to Laos or Burma.

yeah, I feel kind of dumb, but I got it figured out now. I was only planning to renew my passport because it expires next august (2014), and at the time I had longer term plans for staying in Thai, so I thought this trip would be a good time to renew the passport.

Since then however the wife and I have pretty much decided to move to Canada in the next year with this trip being the clincher, so actually I should not (I hope I am not regretting those word in a year from now!) need to renew my passport this time around. I can just send the passport in for the 90-day non-O and get the 1 year extension at Laksi.

So when applying for the non-O based on marriage, with the intention to extend in Thai they will need to see all the docs (marriage cert, house/baan book, pics of us at home, bank statement or letter from the bank rather, etc. etc.) at the embassy in Canada right? We will probably just take everything in case I guess.

I do have to mail the app in because for some silly reason the consulate in Toronto, you the country's biggest city by far, doesn't issue non-O visas; only the embassy in Ottawa does that apparently, which is too far to "just drop" my application off. Therefore I don't really want to send anything more than I have to, remaining forever considerate, helping to prevent Thais from having to demonstrate their tendency toward incompetence.

Now I just hope the wife has no problem with her visa application to enter Canada. We'll find out Monday I guess.

Visas, what a PITA!

You need;

Marriage cert
Kor Ror2 from the amphur you married in
Tabian and ID

dont need the bank and photos until you extend.

Originally Posted by Necron99

You need;

Marriage cert
Kor Ror2 from the amphur you married in
Tabian and ID

dont need the bank and photos until you extend.

Well that is just super info. Thanks for the prompt replies.

cheers, eh!

Originally Posted by thaitang

Visas, what a PITA!

Can't argue with that statement. And good luck with the move.

Originally Posted by cdnski12

Does your wife have a Cdn Visa (Tourist or Landed immigrant)? I've recently met several Cdns who had a lot of trouble getting Cdn Visas for their legally married Thai Wives. A Thai Gf ... forget it. Very tough to get a Cdn Tourist Visa, unless she is a Govt Registered Teacher of Nurse.

Hi CdnSki,

Yeah the wife did get her visa, but it was certainly more difficult this time. They did decide to interview her this time, and she said the lady seemed like she was trying to trip her up by saying things, such as the wrong amounts of money in her bank accounts and what not than what than what was really there. I guess to see the wife sweat some.

I figure there is either a new ambassador or some high level job in there just re-assigned and whoever it is needs to make their mark, establishing a "tougher" system; or else there has been some trouble back home recently with illegal workers, because a couple of years ago when me and the-then-GF applied for her visa to visit Canada for the first time it was a freaking breeze. I dropped off her application and picked it up without so much as a murmur of an interview. And it was only two days then instead of a week this time.

They also told her because I live here it makes it difficult to understand how I could sponsor her visit. Like wtf do they think I am living on over here, bananas? Plus that was not a question a couple of years ago either when I was still living here.

And when she told them that her reason for wanting to go to Canada was so our daughter could meet her grandmother, the lady was curious why I (the father) couldn't go with my daughter alone: "Well ok I admit it, I would like to go and enjoy a holiday with my daughter and husband as well. Sorry for the confusion."

Man what a bunch of malarky! Maybe it was just rag-time for that hag. Who knows?!

But damn I hope the wife decides to move to Canada and we can finish worrying about visas, after she gets a PR

Wow! Sorry for having to post yet! another question in this thread, but I just seem to stop thinking of them.

Now that I have it sorted that I don't need to renew my Canadian passport on this trip home because it does not expire until aug-2014, will there be a problem:

1) getting a non-O, since it says on under the guidelines that any visa for one years requires eighteen months left in the passport;
so ok if the non-O is technically only a 3 month visa and I it is not a problem that in April (2013) I will only have 16 months left in my passport,

2) when I apply for a one year extension based on marriage at Laksi, will they complain then that I only have, well in May (2013), 15 months left in my passport.

what does it say in the regulations?

if it says you need at least a 18 months left, they will apply that rule

etc

Originally Posted by DrAndy

what does it say in the regulations?

if it says you need at least a 18 months left, they will apply that rule

etc

Well the 18 month stipulation is what the Thai embassy in Ottawa states as a requirement for issuing any year-long visas. So I guess what I am wondering if that is that is a general Thai immigration requirement, and if it applies specifically to non-o extensions based on marriage in Thai as it does for one-year visas?

If the 18 month regulation is applied to one year extensions to non-o visas, then I wonder what my best course of action is, wanting to return to Thai for about 6-9 months sorting and preparing things to move.

I think my best best would be to apply for a multi-entry tourist visa from Thai embassy in Canada instead of a non-o, then at the end of the first 60 days apply for a 1 month ext at Laksi, leave after 3 months returning on second 60 day stamo and apply for a second 30 day ext at the end of that 60 days. That then gives me 6 month, which might just be enough time to get done what I want in Thai.

If I need a little more time I think I remember there is a 60 day visa issued for people visiting family in Thai. I am unsure of the details, but if my memory serves me right and there is such a visa, and any one supply some details that would sure be appreciated.

Also if there are any other viable alternatives for my situation any one wants to share I am all ears.