please help my friend

**jarupong** · 29-08-2012, 10:33 AM

Hello to every one

My friend he from German and he living in Thailand long time now about 20 year I think.
Now he nearly 60 year old and he want to retie.
He working about teaching at sor nor jor something like that.
He work at volunter.
Him no have home in German and him no have family in German.
He want stay in Thailand but if him stop work him no have visa.
I talk him about this last month and he say when him stop work he no have visa.
Him want stay in a villige where he live and die in a villige there.
He ark me about if a imigretion policeman try to catch him if him no have visa but I not know about this thing.
I hoping some one can help him.
He good man, not drink smoke nothing.
He help every one. Him never make problem.
He say to ark you will policeman try to find him?
He very fear. Can you help he please.

I sorry for my English very bad.

**shaggersback** · 29-08-2012, 10:43 AM

lend him a 800,000 baht for a retirement visa.

**Necron99** · 29-08-2012, 10:46 AM

he can apply for a Non O Immigrant visa on the basis of retirement.
He will need to have 800,000 baht in the bank or overseas income like a pension.
he can extend this every year.

If he stays with no visa and gets caught he will be deported and fined 500 baht per day.
Immigration may not "come looking for him" specifically, but there are many instances where a policeman may ask to see his passport.

**Satonic** · 29-08-2012, 10:57 AM

I would advise him to give it some more thought. I'm pretty sure no one would come looking for him but what would happen if he had an accident / fell sick / was asked to provide his passport on a evening out by a friendly policeman?

I'm not sure of the exact requirements for a retirement visa but I'm guessing as he only volunteer works he must have some money behind him and/or a regular income, possibly enough to obtain a retirement visa.

**Zooheekock** · 29-08-2012, 11:01 AM

If he stays in a village out in the country, he's unlikely to get caught by immigration. Other than being an illegal immigrant, I think his only other option is to ordain as a monk.

**Necron99** · 29-08-2012, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

If he stays in a village out in the country, he's unlikely to get caught by immigration. Other than being an illegal immigrant, I think his only other option is to ordain as a monk.

Monks get a pass?

**Latindancer** · 29-08-2012, 11:12 AM

It would be easier if he was married to a Thai lady.

**dirtydog** · 29-08-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Monks get a pass?

Pretty sure they don't, but they don't get a tourist visa either.

**Thetyim** · 29-08-2012, 11:19 AM

What type of visa did he last enter Thailand on ?
That will make a difference to his options

**Zooheekock** · 29-08-2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

If he stays in a village out in the country, he's unlikely to get caught by immigration. Other than being an illegal immigrant, I think his only other option is to ordain as a monk.

Monks get a pass?

There's a type of visa for monks.

**ltnt** · 29-08-2012, 05:05 PM

Sounds like a case of overstay to me.

**Wizard of Oz** · 30-08-2012, 02:04 AM

In a small village in the country side I wouldn't be to worried about the police. I have never ever seen a policeman where I live. I have a marriage visa but with all the hassle getting it, it crossed my mind, just stay and be happy. The worst thing they can do is deport you. Been I hospital twice here, no one has ever asked for my passport, just for money! Same with being pulled over by police so many times I cannot even count them anymore, I just show my expired! Australian Drivers license, pay the tea money and off you go! and on a night out I have never ever been asked to provide a passport. Best advice to him, keep a low profile and just stay put if you have no means to obtain any other visa or do the visa runs.

**ralphlsasser** · 30-08-2012, 04:30 AM

Does anyone know if immigration cause a problem to a person that has overstayed for a long period of time if they pay the 20,000 baht fine? Jail?

**Necron99** · 30-08-2012, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by ralphlsasser

Does anyone know if immigration cause a problem to a person that has overstayed for a long period of time if they pay the 20,000 baht fine? Jail?

If you get caught in a traffic stop or random check say, yes it's off to jail until you come up with
a. The fine (max 20,000) and
b. A ticket back to your home country. You don't have a choice in this, it's always your home country you are deported to.

If you just fly out and declare at the airport then it's just pay the fine and off you go.
You get an overstay stamp in your passport, but peoples experiences to date are that this does not stop you from getting a new visa or visa exempt entry.
You could in theory fly out on a return ticket to KL, pay the fine and be back in LOS the same day on a 30 day exempt.
People have reported varying negative experiences when trying to do this at a land crossing. Flying out is recommended.

**apex2000** · 30-08-2012, 06:24 AM

Reading between the lines of what the OP has written, it would seem like the guy wants to 'disappear', 'go under the radar', whatever.
I think the guy wants to know if immigration police will actively go looking for him, as in a manhunt, after not renewing whatever visa he's on now.
I once got into an off the record conversation with an immigration officer and he said that there are many foreigners in the country with expired visas, and he added that if they don't cause any problems, they can live out their final days in peace.
Does anyone know whether immigration police actually go hunting overstayers?

**dirtydog** · 30-08-2012, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by apex2000

Does anyone know whether immigration police actually go hunting overstayers?

Only if a complaint is filed.

**nidhogg** · 30-08-2012, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by ralphlsasser

Does anyone know if immigration cause a problem to a person that has overstayed for a long period of time if they pay the 20,000 baht fine? Jail?

If you get caught in a traffic stop or random check say, yes it's off to jail until you come up with
a. The fine (max 20,000) and
b. A ticket back to your home country. You don't have a choice in this, it's always your home country you are deported to.

If you just fly out and declare at the airport then it's just pay the fine and off you go.
.

I thought that the law was changed a while ago on this, and that very long term overstayers would have legal consequences, even if they piad the overstay fine?

**apex2000** · 30-08-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by apex2000

Does anyone know whether immigration police actually go hunting overstayers?

Only if a complaint is filed.

Are you certain about this? If so, this may be the OP's question answered.

I guess that if the police don't actually hunt people down, it is because they have more important duties to carry out, or maybe they cannot be bothered if there are no problems arising from the overstay leading to a complaint.

OP: Does the German guy speak English at all?

**Zooheekock** · 30-08-2012, 09:01 AM

I don't think he's in much danger if he overstays but if he changes his address on his next visa renewal & 90-day reporting, the chances of immigration police finding him are microscopically small.

**jarupong** · 30-08-2012, 10:46 AM

Hello every one

Thank every one for you answer thank you very much
Many naswers and I reading very poor and slow
Now he live alone no have wife in Thailand she go away with falang another man
Today I call to him by phone and try explain you answer for him listen

**apex2000** · 31-08-2012, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

I don't think he's in much danger if he overstays but if he changes his address on his next visa renewal & 90-day reporting, the chances of immigration police finding him are microscopically small.

Not sure what you mean. How is changing his address going to help unless it's a fictitious address where he can't be found? He would also have to move from his previous address to another undisclosed address, wouldn't he?

**Zooheekock** · 31-08-2012, 01:46 PM

^ Yes, sorry. I should have been clearer. I meant a fictitious address.

**Exige** · 31-08-2012, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by jarupong

Hello every one

Thank every one for you answer thank you very much
Many naswers and I reading very poor and slow
Now he live alone no have wife in Thailand she go away with falang another man
Today I call to him by phone and try explain you answer for him listen

Possible to get your German friend to see this thread? Might be easier for him to understand and even go as far as to introduce himself here.

**DrAndy** · 31-08-2012, 03:40 PM

not enough information for any correct help

but, as was said, if he has B800K he can get a retirement visa

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