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    How much money in the bank for a non O visa?

    I am in Shanghai at the moment and can't remember my old bank account details for my Bangkok Bank account. I want to apply for a non O visa, i am married and we have 2 children together.

    So do i need 400,000 in the bank for 1 month? 400,000 in for 3 months? 800,000 in for 3 months?

    Money isn't the problem, just won't be able to do anything until we are back there in August.

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    For someone with so many posts and, I guess a Thai wife, you seem a little confused as to what you need to get a non O visa.
    Go to your local Thai embassy, consulate, and ask them what you need for the initial Non O single entry visa. Take your wife with you, with her Thai ID card or passport, if she is in Shanghai, and take your marriage certificate, if you have one. Also take proof of monies in the bank, enough to support you for a month or so, a bank statement from your home country generated via the internet, should suffice.
    The 400K Baht, in a Thai bank, or an income of at least 40K Baht/month, is required to apply, in Thailand, for a 1 year extension of your visa, based on marriage to a Thai. Or as money is not a problem, if you are over 50/55, I'm not sure which, and can show 800K Baht in a Thai bank for at least 3 months prior to application for the extension, you can apply for a retirement extension, which is a lot less hassle than the 400K marriage extension.
    Good luck.

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    That's what I thought until I looked it up.
    This is from the Singapore Embassy website

    Required documents are:

    1. One completed and signed visa application form
    2. One recent passport-sized photograph (3.5 x 4.5cm)
    3. Passport (valid for no less than 6 months)
    4. Copy of Airline ticket or confirmation slip with flight number date of entry
    5. Copy of Marriage Certificate, Passport and Identity Card of Thai spouse
    (Copies of documents must be signed by Thai Spouse)
    6. Letter from Thai spouse
    7. Bank Statement (at least 400,000 Baht)

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    The shanghai thai embassy website says 20,000 baht
    Non-Immigrant Visa : Royal Thai Consulate-General, Shanghai

    Best of luck mate

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    Thanks for the replies.

    When i was in Thailand i just got my non B extended every year and couldn't be arsed with the non O visa. So after being in China for a few years we will return and i want the non O visa, easier.

    So this looks rather simple then, head into the Thai embassy in Shanghai with all the documents and they will issue me with a non O visa, get to Khon Kaen put enough money into my Thai bank account and then apply for an extension of that visa.

    Can't get a retirement visa as i am still 15 years away from hitting the big 50

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    ^
    That's what I thought until I looked it up.
    This is from the Singapore Embassy website

    Required documents are:

    1. One completed and signed visa application form
    2. One recent passport-sized photograph (3.5 x 4.5cm)
    3. Passport (valid for no less than 6 months)
    4. Copy of Airline ticket or confirmation slip with flight number date of entry
    5. Copy of Marriage Certificate, Passport and Identity Card of Thai spouse
    (Copies of documents must be signed by Thai Spouse)
    6. Letter from Thai spouse
    7. Bank Statement (at least 400,000 Baht)
    Unless you have rock-solid employment in a respected Thai company, or proof of unlimited funds, avoid trying to get your visa in Singapore.

    So this looks rather simple then, head into the Thai embassy in Shanghai with all the documents and they will issue me with a non O visa, get to Khon Kaen put enough money into my Thai bank account and then apply for an extension of that visa.
    Yes. That's it. But you may want to check directly with Khon Kaen what is required when you get here, to make sure they don't pull any funny rabbits out of the hat when you go to make your extension.
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    The requirements differ between the embassies.

    I used to get one year multi entries from Singapore without hassle with the above list having funds but then again i had a EP in Singapore so being "local" made things easier. Actually at one point they did not give you one if you were not resident or employed in Singapore.

    In general single entry non-O based on marriage is issued against marriage cert + id copy. Some embassies might ask for letter or bit of money in the bank. And yes flight tickets and photos are also in the list usually but that should not be an issue.

    So just get single entry from China before you come down. When here there is plenty of time to organize bank account and transfer the monies over.

    For extension based on marriage it is 400k for two months for first application and 400k for three months in case you are renewing the extension.

    The best way is to call them and ask what is needed as it might differ a bit between the immigration offices.

    I did mine in Bangkok couple of weeks ago and it was a first application for me. Although i asked the list beforehand had all in order they asked me to provide a "single certificate" i.e. document from my home country proving i'm single that was required when getting married in Thailand. They explained to me that as this was my first application they require bit extra. And no sweat as they took my documents in and said it's all ok and i just need to drop the document for them in next couple of days which i did as i happened to find the doc in the pile i used when getting married few years back.

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    I called the embassy in Shanghai and this was the response:

    1) Marriage Certificate
    2) Kids birth certificates
    3) Wife's ID card
    4) Letter of invitation from my wife (best written in Thai)
    5) Copy of my passport
    6) Letter from my current employer

    He did ask if i was holding a current China residence visa, which i do. Also no need to provide any proof of monies.....

    Pay the 450 Yuan (2250 baht) and get the visa back in 2 days.

    According to him, applying for the extension = 400,000k in the bank for 1 month for the first time and then 3 months for the renewal of the non O visa.

    All seems way to simple comparing to the Chinese visa laws....

    Fingers crossed.

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    It is fairly simple providing you qualify and have all documents in place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thungsongsausage
    According to him, applying for the extension = 400,000k in the bank for 1 month
    If you are applying in Khon Kaen, be prepared for them to say 2 or even 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thungsongsausage
    So this looks rather simple then, head into the Thai embassy in Shanghai with all the documents and they will issue me with a non O visa, get to Khon Kaen put enough money into my Thai bank account and then apply for an extension of that visa.
    sounds OK

    you may need to pay a little tea money in KK to speed up the process

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    Shouldn't need to show any money if applying for a 90 day single entry Non-Imm O based on visiting your wife.

    Once you arrive and want to extend it for 12 months is when you need to show the money.

    There are also multi-entry Non-Imm O visas for 12 months, which require 90 day border runs instead of extending and signing on at an immigration office like the single-entry visa. Some consulates want to see 400k, some want to see 100k, and some don't want to see any proof of funds, for this 12 month multi-entry.


    In your case it sounds like the 90 day single entry Non-Imm O, followed by 12 month extension is the way to go. In which case you shouldn't have to show any funds when getting the visa, only the extension.

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    There is no embassy in Shanghai There is a consulate,I have found them most helpful,although there nglish was worse than my Mandarin and that's saying something. The rules for all such matters are on the Ministry of Foreign affairs website.however the interpretation and practice seems to be different wherever you go,in Uk and Australia I was not required to show funds.In KL an Australian bank rintout sufficed.Keep checking as these things can change
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    Update:

    Went into the Thai consulate in Shanghai today for my non-imm O visa and it all went swimmingly. Handed over the requested documents (no proof of funds needed) and paid the money.
    Will go tomorrow to collect it, so overall very easy and stress free UNLIKE the Shanghai traffic.

    Cheers for the advice guys.

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    ^ 90 day single entry non-imm O?

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    Yep... 90 day single entry non-imm O.

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    Cool.

    Now comes the fun part of extending it at a Thai immigration office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
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    7. Bank Statement (at least 400,000 Baht)
    I followed those instructions a couple of years ago from the embassy in Singapore and they refused to give me a one-year Non O, and I received a 3 month or six-month (I forget now) instead. They said I also needed a letter from the bank manager confirming the balance, deposit dates, etc. This is now common I understand.

    Another point - I think earlier this year or late last year the Thais also changed the rules again by refusing to recognize a joint bank acct (e.g. with your Thai wife). I believe the account must now be soley in your own name with the deposit having met or exceeded the required balance for at least 3 months.
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    Update:

    Just checked the passport and the immigration officer in Surat Thani has FCUKED UP and only stamped me for 60 days... (I know i should have checked)
    I have tried to call Khon Kaen immigration but no luck, i will head in there on Friday and try and get the other 30 days added to the visa.
    Anyone had any luck doing this in the past?
    Can i try and get a 30 day extension on the visa?

    Cheers

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    If the 60 days isn't up yet then you should be fine, they'll probably change it.

    Hopefully should do the same if the 60 days is already up.

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    What are the rules if you are not married but have a child with a Thai passport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
    What are the rules if you are not married but have a child with a Thai passport?
    It's all in the police order. Here's the text for family members of Thai nationals.

    2.18 In the case of being a family member of a Thai national (applicable only to parents, spouse, children, adopted children, or spouse’s children):

    (1) The alien must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM).

    (2) The alien must have proof of relationship.

    (3) In the case of spouse, the relationship must be de jure and de facto; or

    (4) In the case of children, adopted children, or spouse’s children, said children, adopted children, or spouse’s children must not be married, must live with the alien as part of the family, and must not be over 20 years of age; or

    (5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year.

    For other necessary cases, the Commander or Deputy Commander of Immigration Bureau is granted the authority to make decisions regarding approval on a case-by-case basis.

    (6) In the case of marriage to a Thai woman, the alien husband must earn an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month or must have no less than Baht 400,000 in a bank account in Thailand for the past two months to cover expenses for one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo
    The alien must have been granted a non-immigrant visa
    Sweet. I think I got some Annunaki blood in me.

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