Extension of Stay problem

**Spin** · 29-05-2012, 04:58 PM

Ok, I got a situation developing here.

On the 1st June 2011 I was given a 1 year extension to my visa, a multi-entry B. This visa runs with my work permit which expires on 1st June 2012 along with the current extension.

My problem is that during the month of April this year 3 employees left our small company without handing in notice, we were busy working on a large project and did not replace those staff quickly enough. As part of the extension renewal process based on work you have to submit the last 3 months of documents from the social security office showing that the company was employing at least 4 Thai staff. My docs show enough staff for february and march but april the number drops to three...Not enough!

We now have enough Thai staff but my extension is being refused, the option is there to brown envelope this problem away but its not cheap.

They have offered to extend me for 7 days to look at alternatives.

My question is this, If I wanted to leave Thailand and try somewhere to get a 3 month non-immigrant B or O (I will have no work permit after friday, but have fresh 1 year contract of employment) where would I go, what docs do I need etc etc?

**Marmite the Dog** · 29-05-2012, 05:06 PM

I used to get my WP extended for 3 months at a time as I was the only employee in the company. Had to do a visa run still.

I'm sure if you have all the correct docs, Singapore will be OK.

**Spin** · 29-05-2012, 05:23 PM

A trip to Singapore would be more than the number they want to overlook the the "missing staff"

Is Vientiane an option?

**Marmite the Dog** · 29-05-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Is Vientiane an option?

In theory. Hopefully someone will post who has got a non-imm from there.

**Marmite the Dog** · 29-05-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

A trip to Singapore would be more than the number they want to overlook the the "missing staff"

Just get them to bribe the Thai government official then.

**harrybarracuda** · 29-05-2012, 05:32 PM

Box of fairy cakes should do it.

**aging one** · 29-05-2012, 05:35 PM

Much cheaper but longer by train.

Check locations on Air Asia. 8,000 baht return to Penang, but you need 3 nights as you get in and leave late afternoon early evening. Stay in a hotel that has a visa guy inside. Gonna run ya 15+ if you are tight. Good luck.

**Butterfly** · 29-05-2012, 05:46 PM

pay the bribe, how much is it ? if 10,000 THB or less, definitely worth it

**Spin** · 29-05-2012, 05:53 PM

^ I'm inclined to agree with you at this stage, 10k well spent.

**aging one** · 29-05-2012, 05:55 PM

Butters beat me to it, he was more blunt and correct. He gets the G

Good luck spin.

**kingwilly** · 29-05-2012, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

pay the bribe, how much is it ? if 10,000 THB or less, definitely worth it

Not really rocket science, is it?

And it's also not by accident that the bribe is slightly less than a Singapore visa run, despite the Thailand is run by a bunch of monkeys brigade, these guys know exactly what it would cost you and have placed their bribe accordingly.

**Kwang** · 29-05-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

it's also not by accident that the bribe is slightly less than a Singapore visa run

Wot he said

**Spin** · 30-05-2012, 12:05 AM

Is it a bribe though?

I'm do not qualify for an extension based on the documents I have.

I'm kind of looking at this from the point of view that I'll end up paying a fee for something that I couldn't otherwise of got my hands on. I quite like the way the option is there to avoid all the traveling etc.

**Butterfly** · 30-05-2012, 09:45 AM

bribing is good, always good

the other day I was stopped by the police for taking the wrong lane over a white line,

100 THB fine

**9999** · 30-05-2012, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Spin

A trip to Singapore would be more than the number they want to overlook the the "missing staff"

Just get them to bribe the Thai government official then.

Exactly. Spin you said the brown envelope was 'not cheap', but cheaper than a trip to Singapore obviously.

**Ratchaburi** · 30-05-2012, 09:55 AM

have they ask for 10,000B as I pay 5,000B every year.
They come & see me at work each year.

**Thetyim** · 30-05-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Spin

Is it a bribe though?

That's the 64k dollar question and one we can argue about for page after page.
You can look at it as payment for his extra work, traveling expenses, a tip or a bribe.
Just do what you are happy to do and bollocks to everyone else's opinion.

Every year I turn up at immigration with whiskey, fruit & kanom.
I put it on the table and then hand him my extension application.
Is that a bribe or a tip ?
Personally I don't care, I get what I want and it's only once a year so I am comfortable with it.

**Spin** · 30-05-2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Every year I turn up at immigration with whiskey, fruit & kanom.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Is that a bribe or a tip ?

Like you said, it's difficult to define. Anyways, the option is there for me to go to Vientiane and get a three month non b single entry but to tell you the truth, its a long weekend coming up due to the buddha day on the 4th June and the idea of standing in line with the great unwashed at an immigration office in another country does not appeal!

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