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    The End of the Monolingual Classroom?

    Maybe not totally but some big movements in the field of English teaching recently given current research into translanguaging and the marginalisation of other languages.

    In fact, the British Council have just updated their statement of approach to reflect exactly this: that an English only policy will no longer be imposed on English teachers in the network.

    Long overdue IMO when used judiciously.

    A few things immediately spring to mind:

    Many schools have discreetly been doing this for years by giving lower level classes to local teachers. Well now there is research out there to tell students why!

    However, it will still be a tough sell to parents who expect English only in their kids' lessons (having been told this is the only way for so long).

    As more attention is shone on this move, it will only further empower high quality local teachers and perhaps lead to the end of the Khao San Road chancers.

    Managed properly - to repeat again, judiciously - I only see this as a good thing.

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    You been wiv Polly Glot? " Er Gative sin tax is summat to right homoabout

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    You been wiv Polly Glot? " Er Gative sin tax is summat to right homoabout
    It's far too late where you are on a Saturday and far too early where I am for this conversation to ever make any sense.

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    Translanguaging has been big for a while. Great for those new to English. (When possible) we provide the text in their home language so they can read ahead to make connections in the lesson.

    It works really well for KS2 where there are whole units of learning based on novels. And if they don't understand the story then they're well fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    (When possible) we provide the text in their home language so they can read ahead to make connections in the lesson.
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    That's a really good idea.

    I saw a great INSETT on contrastive analysis a few years ago with a load of fantastic practical activities for those who have sufficient command of the local language.

    Of course, it's different if you have a mixed group of students in class, but I've long railed against the idea of a teacher spending 5 minutes eliciting, concept checking and clarifying the meaning of a tricky word when it could- sensibly - be done in 2 seconds if both the teacher and learners know the meaning in the learners L1.

    Madness.

    Of course, the problem is finding a balance.

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    We use Widgit Online to make texts easier to understand. You can also add translations. It's well expensive though apparently.

    Most of our EAL learners are from the same few countries so have amassed resources over the years for them. It's not the technical language that's the problem as all the students are learning that, it's the subject specific words like row, table, the million ways to say addition or subtraction etc.

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    Oh look, TEFLrs trying to catch up to the real world.


    Amzed it’s taken the British council this long to acknowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Oh look, TEFLrs trying to catch up to the real world.
    Running out of threads to troll on since Misskit handed you your arse on a plate, William?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Running out of threads to troll on since Misskit handed you your arse on a plate, William?

    I read it very differently, but ok.

    This topic is about the British council being decades out of date. But at least we agree it’s a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post

    This topic is about the British council being decades out of date. .
    No, it isn't.

    There's a clue in the title of the thread and the opening line of the post (what may be called the topic sentence).



    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    I read it very differently
    We are familiar with your problems and understand you need a bit more help than others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    No, it isn't.

    There's a clue in the title of the thread and the opening line of the post (what may be called the topic sentence)..




    which is the British council trying to catch up with the rest of the world.

    gold standard CPD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post


    which is the British council trying to catch up with the rest of the world.

    gold standard CPD.

    You would really struggle in an IELTS exam.

    Honestly.



    What say you, Cy, for Willy? Band 7 or 6?


    • has operational command of the language, though with occasional inaccuracies, inappropriate usage and misunderstandings in some situations.
    • They generally handle complex language well and understand detailed reasoning.

    or a 6?


    • has an effective command of the language despite some inaccuracies, inappropriate usage and misunderstandings.
    • They can use and understand reasonably complex language, particularly in familiar situations.


    Obviously nowhere near an 8 or 9, but I think better than a 6. 6.5?

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    Dunno, never done one. Shud I?

    I didn’t think ielts did decimals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Dunno, never done one. Shud I?

    I didn’t think ielts did decimals?
    I'm not sure you can do one when you're over 65.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I'm not sure you can do one when you're over 65.

    bastard. Dont they do mature age?

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Dont they do mature age?
    I think you're thinking of the Mancunian grab a granny night , but then waht would I know barely level 6.9 scraped through a dokto ate on ergative usages in Baztani Euskerra, Baztango gramatika erabilerak, shudda bought one of them KSR 100 baht and could have been a groupyleeda @ an inter gnasher all skool and afforded a better bigga pool earlier, instead of roughing it as a Qatar soloist Some highlights Ergative system: Some languages have split ergativity, where the case system may shift depending on factors like tense, aspect, or transitivity. For example, in Hindi (a split-ergative language), the ergative case is used for transitive subjects in the past tense:Maine kitaab padhi ('I read the book') → Maine (ergative, subject of a transitive verb in the past tense)Main so raha hoon ('I am sleeping') → Main (nominative, subject of an intransitive verb in the present tense)Non-ergative system: In nominative-accusative languages, such splits do not occur, and the subject remains in the nominative regardless of tense or aspect. In English, both subjects of transitive and intransitive verbs are in the nominative:

    Oddly being barely literate in English German Latin and frenchish ater French schooling I found I could get by in turd whirl places like Singers, Oz , Thighland and Vest Midlands.

    The hardest accents to understand were Norf Irn, Sarf Effreka and Injuns.Easiest were Kiwis , Cumbrians and the luverly Doric prose like what Jean Brodie spaketh, just avoid scholars in wifebeaters.

    There have been many debates about method and speed of L2 acquisition which I shall leave to the experts. I'm Sassure like buses we'll weighta bit then tool arrive at the same thyme.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Songoma Willy Drs again.

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    My thoughts exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Mancunian grab a granny night ,
    Now that's a subject I can comprehensively understand and debate in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Now that's a subject I can comprehensively understand and debate in.
    Like a Bell hop in a lift, you can take this to a hole nude level.I think the OP is on his knees praying Man Ure don't let four play past them at Ipzwitch

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