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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^ No, I get paid travel days but on the assumption that I travel directly from/to home.

    I need to work on this.

    Missed the Korat bus that only runs twice a week…?


    So 175 days of work or 175 days paid, and possibly only 110 days of actual work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    ^^ most folks that work full time get at least 4 weeks a year holidays. (Obviously, not teachers, but real workers).
    Don't teachers usually get around 3 months paid holidays per year?

    I'm advising my kid to get a PGCE after getting her BA and spending a year or 2 traveling the world. She's gonna be well pissed at me if she goes down the route of international school teacher expecting to get 3 months off fully paid but only gets 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    So 175 days of work or 175 days paid, and possibly only 110 days of actual work?
    I probably average around two travel days per trip, depending on flights. I'll be doing five work trips this year.

    In the past the travel days were a bonus, but these days I would far prefer to work a 12 hour shift on a boat than sit on a 12 hour long haul flight, plus airport connections and immigration/security queues. Sure, I get paid for travel days but they can be very long and are always painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I want less hours not more and a all expenses paid 3 hour liquid lunch break to console myself from my tyrannical 4 day week.
    Dear Ms Chiity

    thank you for your application

    While I agree only 3 hours isn't sufficient for a proper meal, romp amd a smoke afterwards.

    However with regards to ye olde job specific requirement

    It is a policy not to employ Manchester City types as there may be reputattery.

    Moreover it is fewer hours !!

    While as it's a rollover week this won't preclude a role over at Rubba Johnny's condom recycling and Eithad deprogrammong section it is sine qua non to be a propa TEFL like wot Armweak, Sqirrel or Halleloofa is innit?

    Please resend your resume to Dorris Daily, Cityzen Vice Buereau , effluent Avenue , Sandbach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Don't teachers usually get around 3 months paid holidays per year?

    I'm advising my kid to get a PGCE after getting her BA and spending a year or 2 traveling the world. She's gonna be well pissed at me if she goes down the route of international school teacher expecting to get 3 months off fully paid but only gets 3 weeks.
    Teachers in the west get two months off in the summer. As I just finished my two months. The ones that are permanent get paid, but many jobs these days are contracts of a year or less (LTO), where teachers don't get paid for the summer sadly.

    Many good international schools give at least 6-7 weeks off in the summer which is what I had when I worked in China.

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    Where in Europe are you located, Hal? Although, I do have a CELTA, and wouldn't mind seeing parts of Europe, I think I may make more money than I would over in Europe, plus I only work 6-7 hours a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Teachers in the west get two months off in the summer. As I just finished my two months.
    They surely also get around 2 weeks at Crissy+ New Years, and a week midterm x 2 or 3 terms.

    My mother was a well qualified primary school teacher that then became more qualified in child psychology and child therapy and opened specialized centers.

    I seem to remember something about short term contracts creeping in, where instead of hiring full time teachers the dept of education would instead switch to hiring short term contracts that don't include pension benefits and whatever. Sounds pretty shitty really.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    The ones that are permanent get paid, but many jobs these days are contracts of a year or less (LTO), where teachers don't get paid for the summer sadly.
    That is very shitty. What are people supposed to pay their mortgage and car payments with for 2 months, the stolen erasers they need to eat for dinner?

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    ^That's cool about your mom. Yes, two weeks at Christmas, and one week for March break. We also get some long weekends in there for Thanksgiving and public holidays.

    Yeah, it is very hard to get a permanent job in Canada. I stayed overseas for nine years, because of lack of jobs here in Canada. Things changed lucky for me around Covid, which is when I came back to Canada and I got a lot of little contracts, but I am still not permanent.

    I like having contracts, as you can change schools, and grades. In a contract you do still get paid salary and benefits, but if you are supplying which is what I do between contracts, then you don't get benefits. In a contract or as a supply you also don't get paid for the summer, however you can get EI over the summer which is decent, but not a huge amount of money.

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    That's a few years now though, going from contract to contract.

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    ^I haven't applied for a permanent job though. I guess I am used to being on contracts same as overseas. I don't like to commit to a permanent job for now. I have worked in so many different grades and as a special needs teacher, music teacher, ESL and Learning Support. I am taking extra courses to become a specialist in ESL and almost there for Spec Ed as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    I think I may make more money than I would over in Europe.
    IN EFL, i can assure you that you think correctly!

    It's for the love, not the money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    I think I may make more money than I would over in Europe.
    Gotta have the right to work in the EU though, MM.
    Last edited by hallelujah; 08-09-2024 at 12:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Gotta have the right to work in the EU though, MM.
    So have you got an Irish passport then, Hal?

    Or are you a spik, dago, square head or other such sausageism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    So have you got an Irish passport then, Hal?
    You know, I went down the road of applying but gave up when I couldn't find all the paperwork (I qualify through my grandparents).

    Back when I started, we had time so we could go through the whole process- which took 2 to 3 months for non EU.

    We need someone yesterday though, hence EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Gotta have the right to work in the EU though, MM.
    From what I know, there are some international schools that will hire a person without a EU passport, instead will get them a work permit which apparently takes time and is expensive for the school. Once hired, the person can get a EU passport over time.



    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    It's for the love, not the money.
    Trust me, I understand that. I also do it for the love and not the money as not being permanent, the money isn't consistent.
    Good luck Hal! I got offered to work at the British Council in Vietnam last year, but declined. I have now given up thinking of teaching overseas for now, as once I get contracts that are consistent, I am making decent enough money. I wasn't happy that my school board only gave me 4 years out of 9 of experience on the pay scale though. All my teaching experience was overseas as I went abroad right after teacher's college. It has been a huge learning curve for me coming back to Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Where in Europe are you located, Hal? Although, I do have a CELTA, and wouldn't mind seeing parts of Europe, I think I may make more money than I would over in Europe, plus I only work 6-7 hours a day.

    I'd pack your woolly knickers for where Hal is.

    Tbh I reckon you'd be perfect for the job.

    Hal will look after you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    I'd pack your woolly knickers for where Hal is.

    Tbh I reckon you'd be perfect for the job.

    Hal will look after you!
    Don't be involving me in your flirting, you dirty dog!

    Still roasting here, btw.

    Might get a bit nippy in a couple of months, mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Trust me, I understand that. I also do it for the love and not the money
    Don't say that, he'll have you on minimum wage.

    Ask for the 5 star relocation package with free gym and sauna membership, also 6 free flights a year worldwide.

    You know it makes sense.

    He's living it up in the Artic circle, this time next week it could be you.
    Shalom

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Don't be involving me in your flirting, you dirty dog!
    MM and I have an open relationship


    Give the girl a break and a decent job offer!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    From what I know... Once hired, the person can get a EU passport over time.

    .

    You don’t know, and that’s not the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Don't say that, he'll have you on minimum wage.

    Ask for the 5 star relocation package with free gym and sauna membership, also 6 free flights a year worldwide.

    You know it makes sense.

    He's living it up in the Artic circle, this time next week it could be you.
    Haha! Where is he?
    I have thought at times of working up in northern Canada like Nunavut or Northwest Territories, but the thought of the cold and isolation made me hesitate everytime. The pay is extraordinary though.. plus a northern allowance on top of that. I do admit I often think about going overseas, but then another year goes by. lol.
    You never know what life will bring in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    You know, I went down the road of applying but gave up when I couldn't find all the paperwork (I qualify through my grandparents).
    You only need one grandparent born in Ireland to qualify. The office of births, deaths, and marriages will have all the paperwork you need and you can order copies online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    You don’t know, and that’s not the case.
    I read that, but I really do not know for sure. Care to share your knowledge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Haha! Where is he?
    I have thought at times of working up in northern Canada like Nunavut or Northwest Territories, but the thought of the cold and isolation made me hesitate everytime. The pay is extraordinary though.. plus a northern allowance on top of that. I do admit I often think about going overseas, but then another year goes by. lol.
    You never know what life will bring in the future.

    You won't be disappointed, it's a beautiful country full of culture and history.

    Some great bike rides there.

    If I didn't have family commitments here I'd be onit like a car bonnet.

    The pics Hal sends me on WhatsApp make me jealous.

    Your qualified and perfect for the job.

    Hal make it happen!!

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    ^Cool beans, Joe! I would be interested to learn more about it for sure.
    Travelling and teaching always makes my ears perk up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    You only need one grandparent born in Ireland to qualify. The office of births, deaths, and marriages will have all the paperwork you need and you can order copies online.
    If I remember correctly, it was the marriage certificate I was struggling with. I had the other stuff.

    Although, to be honest, once I found out it would take about 2 years, I lost interest.

    I was only thinking the other day that I should get back to it.

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