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    Scrap school uniforms?

    A prominent Democrat politician has suggested that Thailand’s Education Ministry should scrap the rule requiring students to wear uniforms to school, in order to relieve the financial burden of parents.

    “Since wearing a student uniform does not improve a student’s academic performance, I suggest that the Education Ministry scrap the rule requiring the wearing of uniforms in public schools. If they are allowed to wear appropriate dresses, it would save their parents this annual financial burden,” she said.

    She also urged schools to pay more attention to enhancing the quality of teaching than focusing on students’ uniforms, as the two have no correlation.

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    I dont think it will happen in Thailand but I wonder what TD members think of the uniform/no uniform issue. Is one better than the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    A prominent Democrat politician has suggested that Thailand’s Education Ministry should scrap the rule requiring students to wear uniforms to school, in order to relieve the financial burden of parents.

    “Since wearing a student uniform does not improve a student’s academic performance, I suggest that the Education Ministry scrap the rule requiring the wearing of uniforms in public schools. If they are allowed to wear appropriate dresses, it would save their parents this annual financial burden,” she said.

    She also urged schools to pay more attention to enhancing the quality of teaching than focusing on students’ uniforms, as the two have no correlation.

    https://www.chiangraitimes.com/polit...n-parents.html




    I dont think it will happen in Thailand but I wonder what TD members think of the uniform/no uniform issue. Is one better than the other?
    Uniforms. A couple of sets will last them the term, and no "clothing arms race". Uniforms are a damn sight cheaper than what they would want to wear otherwise, and help to iron out large wealth/status differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Uniforms. A couple of sets will last them the term, and no "clothing arms race". Uniforms are a damn sight cheaper than what they would want to wear otherwise, and help to iron out large wealth/status differences.
    Correct. They also serve to identify if a stranger is on the school grounds.
    Having said that, I think it's absurd that uni students have to wear a uniform. The above arguments don't quite weigh the same for uni students. It is also absurd the number of different uniforms a school kid needs to have, this day wear one colour, another day something else.

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    one school uniform and one school sports uniform

    scrap all the other fancy dress

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    A prominent Democrat politician has suggested that Thailand’s Education Ministry should scrap the rule requiring students to wear uniforms to school, in order to relieve the financial burden of parents.
    Quite the Opposite,
    Uniforms or not,, parents will still have to buy clothing for their children. but without the uniforms they will have to compete in the fashion economic juggernaut .
    When my daughter was younger and in private school I loved the ease and economy of uniform, and secretly the kids also loved the freedom from dress competition.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    What next? No short back and side for the boys? If anything the girls need to have the short back and sides as they are the more likely to have head lice.

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    There is no doubt whatsoever that well thought out uniforms negate a massive amount of problems in school through to year 10. This has been demonstrated in schools throughout Europe, the West in general and elsewhere.

    It reduces conflict in the playground, the classroom and also in extracurricular activities.

    In my experience to cost of mass produced uniforms is nearly always a cheaper buy for carers and family compared to the inequities of the kids fashion market.

    I've taught in and run schools that opted for non uniform and uniform and, in my opinion, there is no doubt that taking away the angst of "what are you wearing" plays a significant part in maintaining a calm, equal and positively caring community.

    End of soap box.

    But, I'd like to add that "A prominent Democrat politician has suggested that Thailand’s Education Ministry should scrap the rule requiring students to wear uniforms to school, in order to relieve the financial burden of parents." hasn't got a fucking clue what they're talking about.

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    I'm for uniforms. At least they are used all year unlike the one off school Nativity play, Songkran and Chinese New Year costumes and the sports day t-shirts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    But, I'd like to add that "A prominent Democrat politician has suggested that Thailand’s Education Ministry should scrap the rule requiring students to wear uniforms to school, in order to relieve the financial burden of parents." hasn't got a fucking clue what they're talking about.
    Yup - gotta agree with that. If you want to relieve the financial burden - subsidize the uniforms or provide an allowance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    subsidize the uniforms or provide an allowance.
    They do that already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    one school uniform and one school sports uniform

    scrap all the other fancy dress
    should that one uniform be Pirate drag? IMO hook hands and peg legs would be an impediment to sports especially football. and all them parrots would cause chaos.
    LOL

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    As mentioned uniforms stop a fashion race and help those of less means feel like they fit in visually.

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    On balance keep the unifoms. Only downside is picking out your kids in a crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    They do that already.
    Absolutely. We got a call from the daughter in law asking if, when we were out and about. we could pick up some blue hair ribbons for the 4 year olds' new start at "big" school.
    No worries, we got the receipt and the school will refund.

    Up our way it seems that what ever you buy, in the way of the prescribed uniform there will some form of recompense to the families.

    IMHO that's the way to go. It means the kids start off at the same level on par. Sure this will change but at least they're getting an equal start.

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    Get them chipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    On balance keep the unifoms. Only downside is picking out your kids in a crowd.
    She, never seems to fail to find me Norts. I reckon yours would have an even easier go..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    What next? No short back and side for the boys? If anything the girls need to have the short back and sides as they are the more likely to have head lice.
    Girls have their hair cut short for school up here.

    I agree with having the same school uniform for all...and subsidised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    On balance keep the unifoms. Only downside is picking out your kids in a crowd.
    Imagine the school trips, without uniforms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Only downside is picking out your kids in a crowd.
    Not for all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Imagine the school trips, without uniforms
    Don't be a pervert LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    should that one uniform be Pirate drag?
    long live the flying spagatti monster - pastafarians unite

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    long live the flying spagatti monster - pastafarians unite
    Death to pastafarians!!! Frisbyterians are the only true believers and would go to heaven where among other thing they will enjoy delicious dishes of Spaghetti and meatballs

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    We're agreed then. Uniforms it is. Balders make a note and pass the TD resolution on to the PM.

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    As a matter of fact, the uniforms, beside the other thing the parents have to buy, form quite a burden for low-income families. It's not only one set, plus the sport set (BTW, why they have to have long pants in this weather?), and one set for scauts, each with the appropriate shoes, all this is not so cheap. And when there are 2 -3 kids in family...

    There is also a fact that most of the sales goes thru the teachers, a kind of their lucrative business...

    One can note that with each school begin there is a full queue at the local pawnshops...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    As a matter of fact, the uniforms, beside the other thing the parents have to buy, form quite a burden for low-income families. It's not only one set, plus the sport set (BTW, why they have to have long pants in this weather?), and one set for scauts, each with the appropriate shoes, all this is not so cheap. And when there are 2 -3 kids in family...

    There is also a fact that most of the sales goes thru the teachers, a kind of their lucrative business...

    One can note that with each school begin there is a full queue at the local pawnshops...
    Well, it may be that way in your area sweetie, but up here it's pretty straightforward.
    You buy stuff in local shops, get the receipt and pass it to the school, then get a rebate.
    I doesn't work at the likes of Tesco cos they're not in the scheme apparently.

    Sorry to read that you live in such an unscrupulous area. Maybe you should move?

    Best wishes, CJ

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