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    ...30 contact hours is far too many at the primary level...in fact, anything more than 21 hours (or so) in the harness is approaching outrageous abuse of staff...

    ...one thing about the wonderful perks and tax-free salary in Saudi: when you wake up every morning, you're still in Saudi...sturdy mental discipline may be required to overcome that sad fact...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    That 6k in Saudi isn't a job I'd take (got offered similar 6 months ago on a BAE/Saudi Airforce job, but fuked if I wanna go to Saudi for under $8k per month, which is very hard to get there nowadays, and even then I don't wanna be in the Middle East, especially not Saudi).
    It's not ideal, tho I do like Saudi and will finally be able to pull off an Empty Quarter trek that's been postponed twice.

    If Iraq (8.5k) or Afghan (11.6k) materialize (highly coveted), I'll probably switch gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    It's not ideal, tho I do like Saudi and will finally be able to pull off an Empty Quarter trek that's been postponed twice.

    If Iraq (8.5k) or Afghan (11.6k) materialize (highly coveted), I'll probably switch gears.
    Those kinda salaries, tax free, clear double - treble what I clear, so if you can get through it for a couple of years (some folks do 5 or 10...) then you can certainly have lots of $$$ in the bank. My two years in Oman paid for my Thai palace (ok, a shitty little Nakhon Nowhere house), but were quite enjoyable. Life in Korea is nice. $400 a month goes into a pension fund which I get back when I leave; a months salary bonus at the end of each year; free accom (nice apartment) - 24 hour bars and clubs, quite pricey to live, but a nice life... Your jobs certainly are worth doing a few years and putting $100k plus in the bank. My 5 years could put half that in the bank, but I live well. Students are respectful, learn well and there's a lot of satisfaction in the job from seeing students develop. Saudi, i-Raq and Afghanistan would not be for me, but good luck to you if you go that route - I'd really want $8,000 clear per month, free accom of good quality, 4 months holiday and a months annual bonus to do any of those jobs; could be had 5-10 years ago, not sure there's many out there in that space nowadays though.

    If I could do 5 years in Japan now, and save $50,000+ in the bank while having a really nice time and good quality of life then I'd be pretty happy. Five years in Saudi would put $100-150k in the bank, much much more, but 5 years there...
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    Saudi is what you make it, ime.

    Yep, I lived and taught in S. Korea for 5 years. Daejon, Daegu and more recently Bundang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    quite pricey to live, but a nice life..
    I still visit Korea frequently.
    I find that if you read (speak reasonably) Hangul and have a few key K-friends, you find ways to cut costs and even approach the 90s level of expenditures.
    But,...I don't drink (or whore) anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
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    Erm, that was a deliberate mistake for comedic emphasis.

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    Taught 14 classes in November (they run for 0.5 / 1 / 2 / 4 days).
    Invoiced 196 hours plus 12 in the plane for about 25 AUD

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    so I'll sign for:

    All visa/residency expenditures reimbursed.
    1 Round trip Flight/yr.
    6,000 usd/mo.
    3- 3.5 mos paid vaca/yr.
    Full health insurance.
    No more than 10 contact hours a week.
    Have they replied to your demands yet?

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    Talked to some friends at other schools and they work similar hours and say much the same- getting teachers to come to Mongolia is a challenge, even when the package is decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    even when the package is decent
    ...if the package realistically compensated for the hardships and the workload (as you have described them), there would be no problem recruiting staff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Have they replied to your demands yet?
    Yeah, the offer is there. I'm not in a rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    Yeah, the offer is there. I'm not in a rush.
    Looks like a decent gig. Good luck.

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    Thank you Ohoh. That's very nice of you to say

    As I and others (incl BB) have indicated: the "golden days" are pretty much over.

    Too many (qualified) teachers willing to work in the region for peanuts.

    Ahh well. Ya do what ya gotta do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    As I and others (incl BB) have indicated: the "golden days" are pretty much over.

    Too many (qualified) teachers willing to work in the region for peanuts.

    Ahh well. Ya do what ya gotta do.
    Never knew the salad days, but yeah, still gotta earn a crust. (Food metaphors FTW)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liar and The Cobra View Post
    with a max of 2 learning hours of 2 per week.
    Better get that in writing trollbait.

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    It's Pattaya Plies.


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    This is what a school staffroom must be like then, without the coffee breath.

    Trying to work out which one in here would be the equivalent of my old P.E teacher Mr Griffiths, who would stand in the doorway so you had to brush past his groin.

    Was gonna say Can 123 until I saw Mr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    This is what a school staffroom must be like then,
    ...although the salaries and bennies mentioned are not those of the standard Thai tefler...a huge difference that few non-instructors here seem to be aware of...

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    You've convinced me - perhaps unknowingly

    6k? Fuck that

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    6k?
    ...plus: better carpet selection in Afghanistan...

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    Hmmmmm

    major downer point on that one

    cannot leave the base Probably have to bunk with a jarhead.

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    ^...not to worry: pre-selected sellers are allowed to set up near areas behind blast berms...I'm told...

    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post
    Probably have to bunk with a jarhead
    ...count your blessings...

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    ....before I lay me down to sleep...a bottle of lube at my feet...

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    ...just hope he notices you...

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