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    Interesting thread.

    What to do..? Get the f**k out of Dodge

    There easier and better places to earn the same living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    - that darn book needs to be filled in.
    As a parent who successfully negotiated 4 children from infant to university, most of the time with my then wife and now 3 of the 4 are as adult as their youth warrants, expanding careers, adult relationships, members of their peer groups etc. and not a qualified teacher, I can offer you a married perents perspective.

    All parents believe their children are special. Some engage with teaching staff some just drop them off and return to their own lives. Some when issues are pointed out to them are supportive and support the schools directives. Others don't even show up at the basic "parents evenings". The parents who do engage with the teaching staff and extra curriculum opportunities become more aware of the schools ability to provide a rounded education. Some children surge forward others lag. These phases reverse again and again. Eventually most kids achieve what there own and their parents ability and desire warrant.

    The children act as they believe they can and by experience feel they can get away with. They have no direction as yet and need to be moulded. Left to their parents they would become their clones. Schools also mould their pupils to there own ends, which might be immediate bums on seats/income. It may be reputation building for the future advertising, even working within very strict imposed guidelines or financial means. Some parents and children realise that a particular school is not right for them and move to what they believe is a better school. Most just muddle through.

    Your own position. Once again you have found yourself in a dilemma. You have problems with discipline, you have problems with what you are expected to produce and you have problems with the schools curriculum. If you were teaching in your home country one would hope you would be aware of all three and would ensure a new school position matched your abilities. As it is becoming apparent you prefer the wing it and see approach. Excellent if you are able to adjust quickly and have experience to draw upon. You may be the type of person that can manage change easily, adjust to new ideas and exceed in every way.

    You are not the first foreigner the school has employed and will not be the last. You need advice from the school administrators on how to move forward. What are there real goals. Bums on seats, immaculately completed books, highest published exam pass rates in the city, expanding financial profits ...... You need advice and guidance from the school's senior teachers, local and foreign.

    Without knowing their objectives you cannot determine your own future, with the current school or elsewhere. But it is what 3 or 4 weeks since you began, you have plenty of time to work it out. When you do move to your next school please ensure you do understand the schools requirements and always have 6 months fuck it money, in the bank.

    Good luck.
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    In Mandalay I was able to do a lot of lessons outside, here not possible

    Nights like this mean a lot of screen time when kids go home, and it is totally understandable. You wouldn't let your first grade kids smoke, so there is no way you should put them outside in this.

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    I missed the thread where you must of extolled the virtues of life in outer Mongolia.. a quick recap perhaps of what made you go there other than escaping the terminal boredemof Burma.

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    1=no
    2= no
    3=looked 16 anyway.
    4=no, no no and no.

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    As a final throw of the dice, ride bareback into class with a python, a whip, bite the head of the snake if that doesn't scare em shitless head due South to C Mai, cold Leo awaits

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...there's not much you can do, Mandy, if the school admin doesn't back you up completely...if aggressive behavior is tolerated because Ss=$, you're already defeated and all the wonderful games, quizzes, distracting activities and empty threats of dire punishment will be ineffective...you're a sacrificial lamb on the front lines while the admin staff do little to support you...I say leave well before your contract is up unless, of course (like Saudi), you're an exit visa prisoner...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Interesting thread.

    What to do..? Get the f**k out of Dodge

    There easier and better places to earn the same living.
    I tend to agree...."health comes first", and that place ain't healthy. Still, he pissed of out of China (which cost him a fair few bucks), so I guess he feels like he should make a go of it. Hope you ain't susceptible to asthma, Loopy..

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    Well as tc suggested, he may well have no choice in the short term if the school 'accidentally on purpose' has made leaving in the next few months impossible.

    When the chance comes along it looks as if a one-way ticket will do fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    They spit, fight, bite, insult, scratch, bully, throw stuff at each other and teachers

    School culture. Not much hope without support from admin. IME anyway......

    Make do till you line up something better.

    Plenty of good jobs in PRC, crap experiences can lead to better situations. Find an area or province you like and dig in.....bouncing from training center to training center doesn't lead anywhere good.
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    Been making improvement in the right direction with both second grade classes, one is much stronger than the other,allegedly they don't streamline the classes. With both classes we start with circle time, they pass the ball and tell me how they are feeling- it gives me a bit of insight to how they might behave and makes starting class more fluid and calmer.
    1st grade is fine, making progress and settling into primary school life everyday, a great class!

    Still a real mystery: Kindergarten are by far the easiest class to manage- you would have thought they would be the toughest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Still a real mystery: Kindergarten are by far the easiest class to manage- you would have thought they would be the toughest!
    Kinders haven't yet been properly conditioned.

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    I wonder when 'challenging' became a synonym for 'shit'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Well as tc suggested, he may well have no choice in the short term if the school 'accidentally on purpose' has made leaving in the next few months impossible.

    When the chance comes along it looks as if a one-way ticket will do fine.
    His wisdom brimmeth over, At times like this you really need BuyCyrille Repair Man
    Seriously mentoring by an experienced UB old hand perhaps at another Int School may expand your toolbox tho I'd be most concerned about the only 2 lungs you have. There's loads of temp gigs all over until you find something better

    You may just be able to tame the kids, wriggle around the money driven school but you ain't going to like the smoggy winter.

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    I just want the chance to use a bigger porridge bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I wonder when 'challenging' became a synonym for 'shit'.
    When dinero becomes thee issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    they pass the ball and tell me how they are feeling
    When you say "pass" you mean, politely to their neighbour, as opposed to, throwing the length of the classroom, a la american football style, at an unexpectant running catcher, yes?

    Do your students know the difference between 'I'm fine, thank you, Sir" and "Fucking great man"?

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    Got an email from work, we can no longer give the students lollies, not for health reasons, which I would agree with, but because apparently they scratch and attack each other with the sticks. I would be inclined to think it was a windup in any other situation, it sounds unbelievable and absurd. I am siding with Cyrille, in some cases (but not all), challenging behavior is just "shit behavior". Not in my classes, but depressing all the same.

    And what two-bit teacher uses candy to bribe children? I allow my classes to have "golden time" on Fridays for 10 mins if the class has enough "Dojo points" they can choose a game, youtube video so long as it is educational, song, dance etc.

    Newbies and old-timers who think a TEFL is the end of teacher training boil my piss lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    I'd bribe them with sweets.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    what two-bit teacher uses candy to bribe children?
    ...*cough*...

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    Allergies are real, I wouldn't want to risk it no matter how tiny the chance. Accidentally killing someone's kids probably won't result in a stellar reference! The reason for all the safety at my school is actually bloody sad, a few years ago a 4-year child died in the pool.

    Admin always went on about "don't let the kids die!", I thought this was dark humor and laughed it off, guess I totally misread that one. Feel like a bit of a dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    I allow my classes to have "golden time"
    Ah, memories of a more innocent time.


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    ^ I also can't help but giggle about Trump when I type it up in the lessons plans now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    With such low levels of English, it is hard to get them to critically engage and analyze-
    I thnk you're making you're job harder than it is.

    I overheard a tefler in a bar years ago telling his colleague it wasn't teaching, it's just crowd control.

    Just do what Armstrong and Cyrille do, give them some toffees and get them to copy off the blackboard whilst you sit back hold your nuts with one hand and correct the English of Chittychangchang, Ohoh and Dave44 on tinternet instead.l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    correct the English of Chittychangchang, Ohoh and Dave44
    What teaze (Ed)

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    O du fur cough

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