Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

**Cujo** · 02-10-2011, 08:53 AM

This is all very well, but what do they want DONE?

**robuzo** · 02-10-2011, 09:14 AM

^Maybe they are just trying to put the ball in the policymakers' court, let them open the negotiations. The macro-aim is pretty clear- no more dominance of US politics by the finance elite. As Dylan Ratigan suggested, "Get Money Out!" The problem with that being the Supreme Court more than any other institution with Citizens United ruling, but let the politicians know there is a groundswell of support for reform.

Or it could be this is just a nascent progressive version of the tea party movement, putting the fear of God in the Democrats the way the anti-Kenyan Islamosocialists have done to the Republicans.

**chitown** · 02-10-2011, 10:16 AM

Full story click here
500 arrested after protest on NY's Brooklyn Bridge

About 500 protesters demonstrating against corporate greed, global warming and social inequality, among other grievances, were arrested Saturday after they swarmed the Brooklyn Bridge and shut down a lane of traffic for several hours.The group Occupy Wall Street has been camped out in a plaza in Manhattan's Financial District for nearly two weeks staging various marches, and had orchestrated an impromptu trek to Brooklyn on Saturday evening. They walked in thick rows on the sidewalk up to the bridge, where some demonstrators spilled onto the roadway after being told to stay on the pedestrian pathway, police said. Most of those arrested face disorderly conduct charges, while others were accused of resisting arrest.
Some protesters sat on the roadway, while others chanted and yelled at the police from the pedestrian walkaway above. Police used orange netting to stop the group on the roadway from going further down the bridge, which is under construction.
Some of the protesters said they were lured onto the roadway by police, or they didn't hear the calls from authorities to head to the pedestrian walkway. Police said no one was tricked into being arrested, and those who were in the back of the group were allowed to leave.
"Multiple warnings by police were given to protesters to stay on the pedestrian walkway and that if they took roadway they would be arrested," said Paul Browne, the chief spokesman of the New York Police Department.

**misskit** · 02-10-2011, 10:17 AM

^^Here is the draft for constitutional amendment from "Get Money Out"

"No person, corporation or business entity of any type, domestic or foreign, shall be allowed to contribute money, directly or indirectly, to any candidate for Federal office or to contribute money on behalf of or opposed to any type of campaign for Federal office. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, campaign contributions to candidates for Federal office shall not constitute speech of any kind as guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution or any amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Congress shall set forth a federal holiday for the purposes of voting for candidates for Federal office."

To double your impact, send[at]GETMONEYOUT.com to one other person.

Never liked Roseanne Bar, but I'm ready to vote her in. She really hits the nail on the head for me about changing values and getting back to farming instead of money finagling.

I am proud to see those protesters and would take some pepper spray with them if I were any where near NY or Boston. Hope the movement grows.

**Bettyboo** · 02-10-2011, 02:03 PM

They will be cut down soon enough... Money rules the USA (and everywhere else?).

**Agent_Smith** · 03-10-2011, 05:35 AM

^^That's a sensible amendment, hope it grows some legs.

Unfortunately, all this "blame the rich" rhetoric can get out of hand, too. Just look at China's history when the communists finally took over the mainland (landowners and wealthy were executed or tossed in prisons/workcamps). The pendulum went to far and Chinese society suffered for decades.

Decent laws, applied in an egalitarian method, would shore up a lot of the discontent towards our ruling elite, but these folks lack the wisdom to see this - so the cycles of growth, corruption, recession continues.

**misskit** · 03-10-2011, 05:55 AM

^True, what you say. At this point it appears that nothing is being done to calm the discontent, that the people with power and money will go on with business as usual until the system is driven into the ground. Large numbers of people protesting is the only thing that has a chance to force them to change their greedy ways.

Protests will become riots if something is not done. I reckon the protesters up there now will not do the rioting, they are just bringing attention to the problems.

The ones who will turn to violence will be the people in poverty and that number grows every day.

**Agent_Smith** · 03-10-2011, 06:01 AM

^Really, these are just rumblings of something greater that will upset global civilization for the next few decades, which is unavoidable now.

A great book to read would be The Great Disruption by Paul Gilding. Looks spot on to me.

**Neo** · 03-10-2011, 05:07 PM

It's not anti rich, nobody is saying you can't be rich, it's about severing the connection between the rich and the Government. The US is better placed than any country for that, as it is in the constitution (isn't it..?'for the people, by the people') and it is the prime example of what many see as a corruption of Government by the rich.
It's certainly not a Communist 'year zero' type agenda, quite the opposite in fact as many people want social mobility through financial parity instead of what we have now, social control by financial austerity.

**misskit** · 03-10-2011, 07:28 PM

An interesting video by an activist-comedian about the protests.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

**Hampsha** · 03-10-2011, 10:07 PM

More clips... last one sums up the state of feelings on these rallies pretty good.

Occupy Denver

Oct 5 and 12 rallies to support Occupy Wall St

**Hampsha** · 03-10-2011, 10:18 PM

Something related on AlJazeera, documentary

The men who crashed the world
The first of a four-part investigation into a world of greed and recklessness that led to financial collapse.

The men who crashed the world - Meltdown - Al Jazeera English

In the first episode of Meltdown, we hear about four men who brought down the global economy: a billionaire mortgage-seller who fooled millions; a high-rolling banker with a fatal weakness; a ferocious Wall Street predator; and the power behind the throne.
The crash of September 2008 brought the largest bankruptcies in world history, pushing more than 30 million people into unemployment and bringing many countries to the edge of insolvency. Wall Street turned back the clock to 1929.
But how did it all go so wrong?
Lack of government regulation; easy lending in the US housing market meant anyone could qualify for a home loan with no government regulations in place.
Also, London was competing with New York as the banking capital of the world. Gordon Brown, the British finance minister at the time, introduced 'light touch regulation' - giving bankers a free hand in the marketplace.
All this, and with key players making the wrong financial decisions, saw the world's biggest financial collapse.

**GooMaiRoo** · 04-10-2011, 11:05 AM

The slogan "Occupy Wall Street' smacks of mob action and discredits the movement from the start. As we learned during the Vietnam War, street demonstrations often make a well-intended movement seem irrational to Middle America. One way that Americans can truly cut Wall Street down to size is to have an organized movement to stop using debit cards and credit cards and to park what cash they have left in credit unions. The only thing that Wall Street banks understand is cash flow, those millions of transaction fees that pour into their coffers every day. When that inflow of cash starts to slow down, they're screwed. Some would say that Wall street would just go back to Washington cap in hand for another bailout. But would either the right or the left tolerate another TARP bailout in the current political environment?

**StrontiumDog** · 04-10-2011, 12:14 PM

PhotoBlog - Occupy Wall Street protests spread to Boston, L.A.

Occupy Wall Street protests spread to Boston, L.A.

John Minchillo / AP
Protesters from Occupy Wall Street march through New York's financial district dressed as corporate zombies Monday, Oct. 3. The protests have gathered momentum and gained participants in recent days as news of mass arrests and a coordinated media campaign by the protestors have given rise to similar demonstrations around the country.

Josh Reynolds / AP
Commuters walk past demonstrators with Occupy Boston outside their tent village in Boston's Financial district on Monday, Oct. 3. The group is part of a nationwide movement in support of the Wall Street protests in New York.

Frederic J. Brown / AFP - Getty Images
Protesters shout slogans while holding banners after marching to the courthouse where the trial for Michael Jackson's doctor continues on October 3, 2011 in Los Angeles. They say they are inspired by revolutions in the Middle East, but protests over economic grievances in Spain and elsewhere in Europe are a closer comparison as anti-corporate demonstrations spread across the United States.

Natalia Jimenez writes

The Occupy Wall Street protests are entering their third week and show no signs of relenting. Protesters in Boston, Los Angeles and Chicago have joined in demonstrating against economic inequality. There are also now several unions backing the protesters, which could lead to even larger protests this week.

**robuzo** · 04-10-2011, 02:47 PM

Fox interview with protest leader. Fox pussed out and didn't air it:

Bravo, Jesse. The Fox News guy deserves a lot of credit, too. Respectful dialogue, how refreshing!

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 04-10-2011, 03:05 PM

I had a meeting at Goldman Sachs this morning.

They're really no different to the guys at Teakdoor, except richer, a bit smarter and they don't futz around all day on forums, but use their time constructively - i.e for building wealth.

**Butterfly** · 04-10-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

I had a meeting at Goldman Sachs this morning.

what were you doing there ? story ?

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 04-10-2011, 03:23 PM

^Awards pitches. Goldman may be uncommunicative, and surly sometimes, but like all kids they like getting prizes.

**robuzo** · 04-10-2011, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

I had a meeting at Goldman Sachs this morning.

They're really no different to the guys at Teakdoor, except richer, a bit smarter and they don't futz around all day on forums, but use their time constructively - i.e for building wealth.

Ah, "building wealth," is that what Goldman does? Next you'll be telling us they are "job creators." Financial innovation courtesy of people like those at Goldman has destroyed far more wealth than it has created, especially now that the parasites have managed to socialize their losses (the masses deserve to get fucked, right?). I'm sure they do throw a bone to the sycophants who pop by to fluff them now and then. Why don't you use your time constructively and tell us all about your sociopathic pals? I'm sure Butterfly would love to read about the reacharounds.
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**Hampsha** · 04-10-2011, 05:25 PM

Links too the some of the cities where protests are taking place.

Actions

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 04-10-2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

I had a meeting at Goldman Sachs this morning.

They're really no different to the guys at Teakdoor, except richer, a bit smarter and they don't futz around all day on forums, but use their time constructively - i.e for building wealth.

Ah, "building wealth," is that what Goldman does? Next you'll be telling us they are "job creators." Financial innovation courtesy of people like those at Goldman has destroyed far more wealth than it has created, especially now that the parasites have managed to socialize their losses (the masses deserve to get fucked, right?). I'm sure they do throw a bone to the sycophants who pop by to fluff them now and then. Why don't you use your time constructively and tell us all about your sociopathic pals? I'm sure Butterfly would love to read about the reacharounds.

Building wealth for themselves personally. I assumed people were able to read between the lines at my earlier remark.

**Hampsha** · 04-10-2011, 05:51 PM

Just a related clip about today's tyranny.

Here's the same clip above of a protestor being interviewed by a Fox newsreporter. The first clip didn't finish playing so I tried another and this one is the one that worked. It's worth a watch.

One person's view on America's problem.

**Hampsha** · 04-10-2011, 06:25 PM

This is going somewhere. Many people aren't paying attention but there are plenty who are involved in this. People are mad as hell. If you think that the political systems flaws and the economic realities of hopelessness today are just another bump on the way to smooth sailing you really are living in space.

**Butterfly** · 04-10-2011, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog

^Awards pitches.

or is it that time of the year already ? how many pages do they need to buy to get one of those awards ?

**Butterfly** · 04-10-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hampsha

This is going somewhere. Many people aren't paying attention but there are plenty who are involved in this. People are mad as hell.

it's growing, and watching people demonstrate is always a good thing

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