Thread: Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by koman 10 years from now you won't be able to find a qualified industrial electrician, or plumber, or auto mechanic, but there will be a great abundance of 39 year old women with intimate knowledge of Middle Eastern History

This could not be more incorrect or out of touch. There are TONS of plumbers, mechanics and electricians out of work right now all across the US. These are not growing areas of employment in fact they are declining. How the hell are electricians and plumbers supposed to get work with almost no new construction in the US? I know of many of these guys who are retraining right now to get out of the construction trades.

So when all the 55+ skilled trades people retire, who is going to fix the plumbing, cars, electrical system etc etc. Construction is one industry. It was in a boom cycle for years and large numbers of workers become dependent on it. It has hit rock bottom so naturally there will be unemployment in those ranks, but that is not going to last forever. Buildings, machinery, electrical systems and everything else has to be maintained and upgraded. Who is going to do it.....39 year old ex female soldiers with BA's in middle eastern history??? The US and some other countries have hit a high unemployment cycle....do you think that these tent dwelling junkies and social misfits are going to fix that? Most of them would probably not accept a job if it was offered, and those who are "training" for jobs don't want real jobs....only the pretend jobs offered by bloated and over staffed government agencies. The kind of jobs that just consume wealth instead of creating it.....socialist jobs like "racism awareness councellors" They don't understand what wealth is, how it is generated or how it is not an entitlement.

I have a 24 year old son who is now a graduate civil engineer. He is currently "considering" a list of job offers right across the country (about 6 or 7 jobs I believe) He did not seek out these jobs....they found him. Meanwhile many of his highschool friends are kicking themselves and wondering why they spent years screwing around having fun...travelling, wind surfing, learning folk songs about freedom and justice.....while he was wasting his young life away becoming an engineer. He has other friends who studied art history, ancient civilizations, and other interesting subjects that are of little of no use whatsoever to a modern information/knowledge based economy.

He worked very hard and paid his way....he has no student loan debt and owns his own car. I helped him a bit, but 90% of more he did on his own.


He spend a month here in Thailand with me this year It's his turn to have fun now. He is in demand and will have a six figure income in a few years time. He can work just about anywhere in the world. (He has no particular interest in middle east history......although he may study it as a hobby sometime)

His sister is just a year away from completing her MD. She already has a Bsc in chemistry. I dont think she will have too much trouble being employed either.

If you look at the demographics there will be far more people leaving the workforce in the coming years than there are people to replace them. I mean people who do real jobs. For anyone trained and skilled in the right diciplines the future looks very good indeed. The fine arts grads and those with poor education or lacking in skills will remain pretty much the same as they are now....unemployed or under-employed. This will happen regardless of how much time they spend in their tents or how many signs they wave for the TV cameras.

Alvin Toffler predicted this years ago. He referred to it as the world of the Gods and the Clods.

Obviously....it goes without saying that not everyone can be a doctory or an engineer, but it is pretty clear that a great many have not been very forward looking when it comes to career planning. There has been a great deal of lethargy over the past several decades and a sense that no matter what, somehow there will be jobs for everyone, and that the government takes care of all. However, even in the best of times you need to make yourself employable in order to becom, and remain gainfully employed. When the economy taked a nosedive...it just becomes much more apparent. Just read the signs of the protesters.....

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by koman 10 years from now you won't be able to find a qualified industrial electrician, or plumber, or auto mechanic, but there will be a great abundance of 39 year old women with intimate knowledge of Middle Eastern History

This could not be more incorrect or out of touch. There are TONS of plumbers, mechanics and electricians out of work right now all across the US. These are not growing areas of employment in fact they are declining. How the hell are electricians and plumbers supposed to get work with almost no new construction in the US? I know of many of these guys who are retraining right now to get out of the construction trades.

So when all the 55+ skilled trades people retire, who is going to fix the plumbing, cars, electrical system etc etc. Construction is one industry. It was in a boom cycle for years and large numbers of workers become dependent on it. It has hit rock bottom so naturally there will be unemployment in those ranks, but that is not going to last forever. Buildings, machinery, electrical systems and everything else has to be maintained and upgraded. Who is going to do it.....39 year old ex female soldiers with BA's in middle eastern history??? The US and some other countries have hit a high unemployment cycle....do you think that these tent dwelling junkies and social misfits are going to fix that? Most of them would probably not accept a job if it was offered, and those who are "training" for jobs don't want real jobs....only the pretend jobs offered by bloated and over staffed government agencies. The kind of jobs that just consume wealth instead of creating it.....socialist jobs like "racism awareness councellors" They don't understand what wealth is, how it is generated or how it is not an entitlement.

I have a 24 year old son who is now a graduate civil engineer. He is currently "considering" a list of job offers right across the country (about 6 or 7 jobs I believe) He did not seek out these jobs....they found him. Meanwhile many of his highschool friends are kicking themselves and wondering why they spent years screwing around having fun...travelling, wind surfing, learning folk songs about freedom and justice.....while he was wasting his young life away becoming an engineer. He has other friends who studied art history, ancient civilizations, and other interesting subjects that are of little of no use whatsoever to a modern information/knowledge based economy.

He worked very hard and paid his way....he has no student loan debt and owns his own car. I helped him a bit, but 90% of more he did on his own.


He spend a month here in Thailand with me this year It's his turn to have fun now. He is in demand and will have a six figure income in a few years time. He can work just about anywhere in the world. (He has no particular interest in middle east history......although he may study it as a hobby sometime)

His sister is just a year away from completing her MD. She already has a Bsc in chemistry. I dont think she will have too much trouble being employed either.

If you look at the demographics there will be far more people leaving the workforce in the coming years than there are people to replace them. I mean people who do real jobs. For anyone trained and skilled in the right diciplines the future looks very good indeed. The fine arts grads and those with poor education or lacking in skills will remain pretty much the same as they are now....unemployed or under-employed. This will happen regardless of how much time they spend in their tents or how many signs they wave for the TV cameras.

But it's so much more fun getting that BA in Middle Eastern Studies or Classical Lit you know? Then bumming off mom and dad complaining nobody is giving them an entitled job! Change is tough...

There's a coorelation here with what happened in the UK years ago when the Apprenticeship jobs in the Trades was abandoned. All of a sudden there were no Leckys, Pipefitters, Welders etc and they had to turn to immigrants to fill those jobs.

Anyhow, here's another update on how well these protests are going!

Occupy San Francisco: Protester Slashes Police Officer With a Razor Blade

Number of cops slashed by Tea Partiers: Zero.

Police say Occupy San Francisco protesters attacked two officers during a march. Police spokesman Carlos Manfredi says officers were trying to keep marchers out of an intersection when a woman came from the crowd, slashed an officer’s hand with a pen knife or razor blade, then disappeared before he realized he’d been cut.
Police say a man then came out of the crowd and grabbed an officer’s radio, and when the officer chased him another protester shoved the officer, leaving him with a torn uniform and a bleeding laceration on his face.


Occupy San Francisco Protesters Attacked Two Officers, Police Say

That degree in Transgendered Studies or Classical Lit is a sure winner for bagging groceries at Piggly Wiggly or schleping coffee at Starbucks, eh?

^Learn to read you simple minded old fool.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Many of them work for companies like Starbucks, Amazon and Microsoft. They work in administration, marketing, accounting, sales etc etc etc. I have worked with many of them.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^Learn to read you simple minded old fool.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Many of them work for companies like Starbucks, Amazon and Microsoft. They work in administration, marketing, accounting, sales etc etc etc. I have worked with many of them.

Off you go there snubbles - splash some douche and you'll feel better!

Originally Posted by bsnub

A friend once told me that some people have self imposed ceilings to their thinking and just can not get past certian levels of thought it makes them uncomfortable and they just shut down and revert back to their self imposed comfort level.

I most certainly agree. You are describing a very typical product of the last few decades of the education and social system. Such people tend to embrace some form of "socialism" ...without really knowing what it means. Play permanently at mid-field. Never take the risks of going for the touchdown. Someone else on the team can do that....we will just bask in the glory of the win.

Now; who gets the biggest paycheques? The ones who get a lot of touchdowns...or the mid field players......?

Occupiers are obsessed with "bankers" and their excessive bonus payments. Do they (or do you) have any idea of what percentage of bankers get bonus payments, and why they get them? Why do they not object to baseball players, football players, pop singers or Hollywood actors getting tens of millions in compensation for doing something far less useful than banking?

PS. I'm not justifying investment banker bonus payments.....but they are paid under contract just like your favorite baseball player. Sometimes the banker gets paid a huge bonus even if the bank overall has not performed well.....but the individual has....that's how he/she earns the bonus. I've been inside the system and belive me it's not quite as simple as most people think. I do realize that attempting to explain something like this to the Wall St occupiers would be pretty pointless....... let's just bring down the system....that will solve all their problems.

Originally Posted by koman

You are describing a very typical product of the last few decades of the education and social system. Such people tend to embrace some form of "socialism" ...without really knowing what it means. Play permanently at mid-field.

No you clown I was referring to simpletons like you and boontard.

You shared a story about your son and daughter the Engineer and the MD.

You did not share the entire story. The fact is if your kid paid for 90% of his education then he is saddled with massive debt. The fact that his car is paid off means shit as I am sure that he used his student loans to pay that off. I am sure that your daughter is also saddled with an even more massive loan debt.

Your children are the product of the upper middle class in America and they are still starting the game behind. That reality has nothing to do with the lesser classes who must work just to keep there heads above water. It is that underclass that you racist white elitists want to enslave for your own gain.

I am so tired of this stupid faux news dogma.

Originally Posted by bsnub

It is way bigger than some people can get their linear simple thinking heads around. A friend once told me that some people have self imposed ceilings to their thinking and just can not get past certian levels of thought it makes them uncomfortable and they just shut down and revert back to their self imposed comfort level.

indeed, sound like a certain troll hereabouts- lives in a "left vs right" divide & rule mind-prison yet doesn't see it, won't see it, will remain clueless as to how his corporate/zionist "news" sources & blogs have deceived him & enslaved his mind. His rulers are laughing at his "left vs right" keyboard commando warfare hereabouts. I think he's sleeping now, dreaming about his fantasy gay lover, GoodHair Perry,


Here's a bit of what's still forbidden to speak of in the OWS movement,


John Friend talks about 9/11 and JFK assassination at Venice Beach, CA

Uploaded by john6598 on Nov 1, 2011
I was biking down Venice Beach's boardwalk, minding my own business, taking a video of all the cool stuff, and ran into this awesome lady who was passing out 9/11 info by herself! I had to talk to her!

You can find more of my work at www.mrfriendsblog.blogspot.com

Here's John Friend, they guy behind camera you don't see in the vid above- he had the following experience in San Diego last month- he got up and said end the Federal Reserve, & Israel did 911, and....... the fake-protesters & ignorant useful-idiots in the gathering got all upset at the latter... lol, 2 mins:

John Friend addressing Occupy San Diego- booed by fascists and shills

Uploaded by john6598 on Oct 9, 2011
I addressed the Occupy San Diego movement in downtown San Diego at the Civic Center on October 9, 2011 at roughly 5pm. As soon as I started discussing 9/11, I was immediately booed by fascist, anti-intellectual, weak-minded individuals that lack critical reasoning and basic logical thinking abilities.

also see: Why are you participating in Occupy San Diego?

That's iamthewitness.com on his sign, btw.

and the US Marine he ref's is Dr. Alan Sobrosky -
9/11 and Israel: Alan Sabrosky’s Shocking Press TV Interview
he's one of those "Jewish anti-Semites" which the ADL trips over their tongues trying to figure out how to condemn & defame...

Originally Posted by Humbert

Your hyperbole masks a real concern that there not enough people getting degrees in math and engineering. However, tuition fees have gone up 800% since 1980 and the average college graduate starts out $24,000 in the hole. 85% of recent college graduates end up going back to live with their parents. We have a national problem, people are frustrated. Calling them cry babies is hardly a constructive contribution to the debate we should be having about education in the US.

good post. "Higher education" in the US at least, has morphed into (yet another) money racket. Enslave them with debt before they even enter the workforce-- not a racket which prior generations were so shamelessly herded into. This is one of the grievances on the minds of most OWS protesters. From another thread,

Originally Posted by HansuMan

Originally Posted by Don Ho

It's conversations like these that make me want to go back in time and slap the crap out of myself for thinking a degree in History would benefit me. Sure I'm educated but so what?

Don't know where you're from, but if US, more & more are waking up to what a racket univ education has become, esp stemming from the inflated cost/debt-slave factor. Heard one critic note that debt-racked college grads today leave univ with a mortgage but no house! And they rejiggered the bankruptcy laws a few years ago so that school debt cannot be dissolved through bankruptcy. Those who borrowed their way through college but then can't get the big-bucks job at the end of the rainbow to pay it off, are well and truly slaves!

This segment from ABC 20/20 gave some rare truth (for mainstream/corp media):


And this independently produced documentary just came out early this year, 1 hour, goes into many facets of the "higher education" racket in the US,


Then consider the "Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" - Charlotte Iserbyt has been a big exposer of this- her book by the same name is available as free PDF at DeliberateDumbingDown.com, and she also has this great interview online now, 75 mins:


Also see: · How University Betrays Students

Originally Posted by HansuMan

good post. "Higher education" in the US at least, has morphed into (yet another) money racket. Enslave them with debt before they even enter the workforce-- not a racket which prior generations were so shamelessly herded into. This is one of the grievances on the minds of most OWS protesters. From another thread,

Guess the concept of 'free will' doesn't enter into this discussion, eh? These people who saddle themselves in student loan debt didn't have a gun pointed at their heads making them take those loans did they? They could have chosen other 'career paths' then they did but "It's Always Someone Else's Fault' right?

Even Thai's take more responsibility for their own actions than these whiners...

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am so tired of this stupid faux news dogma.

Well, go out and 'splash some douche' like you claim you want to, eh?
Be a hero and go shoot up a McDonald's or a schoolhouse. Get it off your chest, man!

Pathetic...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Be a hero and go shoot up a McDonald's or a schoolhouse. Get it off your chest, man!

Compared to that, I would rather you defecate in your local BofA branch.

Actually the BofA tower in San Francisco is both visually striking, and an icon of the SF skyline. Why not plan a mass vacation there? That would certainly cause a stink.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by koman

You are describing a very typical product of the last few decades of the education and social system. Such people tend to embrace some form of "socialism" ...without really knowing what it means. Play permanently at mid-field.

No you clown I was referring to simpletons like you and boontard.

You shared a story about your son and daughter the Engineer and the MD.

You did not share the entire story. The fact is if your kid paid for 90% of his education then he is saddled with massive debt. The fact that his car is paid off means shit as I am sure that he used his student loans to pay that off. I am sure that your daughter is also saddled with an even more massive loan debt.

Your children are the product of the upper middle class in America and they are still starting the game behind. That reality has nothing to do with the lesser classes who must work just to keep there heads above water. It is that underclass that you racist white elitists want to enslave for your own gain.

I am so tired of this stupid faux news dogma.

Why are those who lean excessively to the left always so very fast with the name calling (clown, simpelton etc) and even faster at jumping to conclusions. Try reading the post that you are referring to once again. It's always best to read all of what is written before responding to the first sentence.

I said...No student loan....car paid off. He has no debts. His parents are not rich upper class elitists, but I suppose I would have to admit to slightly above average incomes. The kid did 90% of it by himself. I taught him to be self sufficient from a very early age and he is. He worked his way through university on a co-op program where he worked for several companies and one year with a goverment agency.....earning very good pay. He paid all his own expenses from his earnings.....instead of pissing it away having..."fun".

It's OK I forgive you. I know how difficult this must be to accept or understand; for a product of the entitlment generations....and a card carring member of the young communist party....

PS My daughter will not be completely debt free. Two degrees are more expensive than one......but it will not be a "massive" debt and with the kind of income she will be earning.....it will be very managable.
I suppose it helps to be smart and highly motivated...... but those are two qualities that seem to be much reviled down in the tent city.

Oddly enought she was an outstanding artist in highschool. I remember asking her when she was about 14 it she would like to pursue art as a career......she gave me one of those "are you kidding" looks and assured me that art would be a nice hobby, but she would like a job that paid real money and contributed something really useful to the world......so she started with a chemistry degree.

.....and no I don't think that only science or engineering degrees are useful. There are many useful skills in adminstration, accounting and many other diciplines.....but the schools of America and many other western countries are churning out millions of useless degrees in subjects that do not prepare the holders for any practical or useful function in modern society.....that someone will be prepared to pay for.
There is nothing wrong with getting a degree in ancient religeous rituals....as long as you don't expect me to subsidise it or expect anyone to hire you and get paid for it. It is a very expensive exercise for society as a whole when we promote this nonsense and mislead people into believing that they can actually sustain themselves without any real job skills or practical knowledge. The only winners are the educational institutions that collect the tuition fees.

The world of the Gods and Clods is upon us......may as well get used to it.
...and please stop blaming Fox news....I for one rarely watch it.... and take just about everything on it with a pinch of salt.

Bet you go for those government subsidised stations.....the ones that can't make it on their own....just like a sizeable part of the population....

I'm in no way against the idea of helping my fellow man....those who have genuinely fallen on hard times through no fault of their own....the sick, the wounded, the infirm..... but I strenuously object to a system that wants to take more than half of what I earn, and distribute it to others without any particular regard for merit.....and that is precisely what many western governments have been doing for years......even the Chinese don't do that...and they are supposed to be communist...

^
Excellent

Blaming others for one's own irresponsible behaviors is the call sign of the inept and Liberal Loons still cling to this failed paradigm. Denial is another facet of their MO as some of them descend even deeper into paranoia and delusionary thinking.

Government subsidized programs - what a lazy person embraces. Recall what the best President we've had in living memory said w/respect to the government:

The 9 scariest words in the English language are: "We're from the government and we're here to help." -- Ronald Maximus Reagan

^^ Your posts are very simple to distill down. You sound simply like the rightwing father telling his children not to buck the system, not to stand up for what is right, to accept the status quo, to ignore the corruption of corporate America and the politicians they control and to just get a job son any job. Bow down to your corporate masters.

I am sure that you and the boontard are fast friends.

^
You come across as a very embittered person, snubbles. Where has the 'system' failed you and why are you tilting at windmills here?

Originally Posted by koman

the schools of America and many other western countries are churning out millions of useless degrees in subjects that do not prepare the holders for any practical or useful function in modern society.....that someone will be prepared to pay for.

It would be interesting to know what discipline Bsnubs degree is in.

The 10 Most Worthless College Majors

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College is a great place to learn and have fun. But let’s not kid ourselves, some degrees are as useless as the plot in a Michael Bay film. Here’s a list of 10 degrees that may be interesting, but do jack shit for you in the real world.
10. Art History

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: With an art history degree you could maybe curate an art gallery or work at a museum or .yeah, that’s it. That’s all you can do. And seeing as how every art gallery and museum I’ve ever been to has exactly one dude sitting quietly at a desk reading a New Yorker and eating a food that requires chopsticks, I’m going to go ahead and assume there’s not a lot of positions open in the field. That means you’re going to have to venture out into the corporate world. And let me inform you, when you’re interviewing with Bob from the HR team at Wal-Mart who’s wearing a tie that has the twin towers smoking with writing underneath that says “We Will Never Forget, your art history degree says to him “I’m a commie a-hole who thinks I’m better than guys with 9/11 ties.
What Job You’ll End Up With: After your parents boot your ass from your bedroom to make room for anything that’s not your bedroom, you’ll wander towards the nearest coffee shop and get a job there, which will allow you to meet artists who will thank you for allowing them to put fliers by the cash register that inform people of their upcoming show that touts “the combination of art and flute.
9. Philosophy

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: This isn’t ancient Greece: No one is going to pay you money, or allow you to sodomize their attractive son, in exchange for your knowledge of existence. Never has there been an employer who’s said “Man, we’re having all kinds of problems, I wish we had someone on our team who could reference and draw conclusions from the story of Siddhartha that would pull up our fourth quarter numbers. I took many philosophy classes and it involved reading and smoking a shit pile of weed. You don’t need to pay 20,000 dollars a year to do that. All you need is twenty dollars and a library card.
What Job You’ll End Up With: Thanks to your extensive knowledge of philosophy, you’re now self-aware enough to know that most jobs out there will make you totally miserable. So most likely you’ll wait tables part time and hope someone starts paying you for the bi-monthly entries on your blog.
8. American Studies

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: If you’re not named Achmed or Bjork or G’Day Mate this isn’t a degree, it’s the last 18 years of your life. If you really want to study us you don’t need to go to some stupid class, you need only to sit back and watch a two-hour block of Must-See TV to understand The American. After doing my own research, it seems that this mysterious creature is a pot-bellied humanoid with a hot wife and bad credit who has a penchant for low-calorie beer, Chilis, Applebees, TGIFridays, Denny’s, McDonald’s, Taco Bell, Dave and Busters, Steak and Shake, Chilis (again) and Red Lobster. Oh and he can totally demolish a White Castle Crave Case in, like, 20 seconds. OK, now give me my degree.
What Job You’ll End Up With: To take your American Studies degree one step further, you will be qualified to do 40-50 years of “graduate work cleaning tables and taking orders at a Chilis, Applebees, TGIFridays or Red Lobster. Or possibly Denny’s.
7. Music Therapy

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: I didn’t even know this was a major until I found it on the Appalachian State website. According to their actual explanation of this major: “Music therapy is the scientific application of the art of music within a therapeutic relationship to meet the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual needs of individuals. Which is a big, fancy way of saying “We’ll teach you how to make a mix tape. I guess I, too, am a qualified music therapist because my “Summer Jams “95 tape I made in the 10th grade totally rocked my house party. All my friends told me that kicking it off with Wreckz-N-Effects “Rump Shaker followed by Coolio’s “Gangsta’s Paradise totally met their physical, mental and spiritual needs to help them get wasted on my dad’s Schnapps and Drambuie.
What Job You’ll End Up With: After realizing that yoga studios and elderly homes don’t pay people just to come in and set mood music, you’re sadly going to end up putting your degree towards burning a fire to keep warm because you are homeless.
6. Communications

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: Go into a communications class on any given day and it’ll smell like dried semen and booze. Reason being, communications is the major for anyone who wants to graduate, but doesn’t want to stop getting totally wasted on weekdays. Here’s the bad news, if an employer is going to hire someone to help decipher how human beings communicate, he’s going to hire someone with the letters “Dr. before their name, not the person who first checks to see if a class is offered online, then when they find out it’s not, let’s out a “gaaaaay bro.
What Job You’ll End Up With: You’ll go to several job interviews that turn out to be pyramid schemes, even though at first you won’t realize this and come home and tell your parents, who you still live with, “They said I’ll probably be making six figures in less than a year just by selling these beer cozies.
5. Dance

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: Despite what “Dancing with the Stars and “High School Musical may tell you, there aren’t a lot of dancing jobs out there,so you better be good because there aren’t any gigs for mediocre dancers. Outside of New York City or some crap in LA there is absolutely nothing you can do with a dance degree that doesn’t involve actually dancing for money. And since the Des Moines interpretive dance movement hasn’t really taken off yet, you have a better chance landing a job as an 8-Track repairman or a member of the Beatles.
What Job You’ll End Up With: After moving to New York and trying out for Hello Dolly! or Damn Yankees or any of the other seven Broadway plays that want dancers and not landing a single one because you got your dance degree from Ball State, you will find ample opportunity to show off your choreographic skills at one of the city’s many strip clubs. You’ll just need to change your name to Crystal or Bambi and you’ll be able finally live out your dream as a dancer. (Mom and Dad will be so proud!)
4. English Lit

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: If someone can spend a weekend with a box of Cliff’s Notes and have only a slightly less conversational knowledge of what you spent 4 years studying, you probably don’t have the most employer friendly degree. Having an English Lit degree is like being a member of the Kansas City Royals: No one cares and the best you can hope for is every once in a while someone buys you a beer because of it.
What Job You’ll End Up With: You can read and comprehend, so that gives you an advantage over 99.5% of the people that peruse Craig’s list job listings. Therefore, you’ll most likely end up landing an entry level position at a random small company, or showing up to your interview and being raped repeatedly by a group of masked men.
3. Latin

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: Not only does no one speak this language anymore, but we already have all the Latin that exists in the world. There’s no new Latin that’s hot off the presses that needs immediate translating. I’m no business major, but majoring in a language that doesn’t exist anymore doesn’t sound so good for job security. And I’m sorry to break the news to you, but the world doesn’t need someone to translate The Bible or the inscription on the side of a Post Office or El Loco Latino’s “Latin House Party.
What Job You’ll End Up With: Since you majored in something that doesn’t exist, you’re going to have two jobs. Your first one will be as the annoying pretentious guy who gives everyone the Latin etymology of every big word he hears at every dinner party he attends. Your second, and most lucrative job, will be as a Subway Sandwich Artist.
2. Film

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: No one in hollywood gives a shit that you made a short film about an alcoholic albino that discovers the meaning of life through the help of a retarded child. Unless that retarded child was played by the son of Harvey Weinstein, your film or degree will be as pointless as the last three seasons of Lost
What Job You’ll End Up With: If you’re lucky, you’ll have an uncle who can get you a job as a production assistant on CSI Miami, where your time will be spent making coffee runs and finding whores that will let David Caruso pee on them.
1. Religion

Why It Won’t Help You Get a Job: Sorry God, but a major in Religion is about as worthless as St. Brice (The Patron Saint of Stomach Aches.) Even Duke University can’t put a solid sell on this degree: “A major in religion offers intellectual excitement and can be a pathway to a liberal education. OK, you sold me. So now I get to shell out about a hundred thousand dollars so I can know what to wear to a Shinto ceremony and learn how many virgins Allah will give me if I blow myself up in an Israeli square? If it’s OK with you, I’ll keep my money and stick to my sinning-a-lot-now-and-repenting-on-my-deathbed plan.
What Job You’ll End Up With: This one is tricky. On one hand you’ll probably end up working behind the desk of a Christian Science Reading Room. But on the other, you may end up with everlasting peace and spiritual enlightenment. Let’s call it a draw.

Top 10 Useless College Degrees & Classes


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Some may argue that there’s no such thing as a useless degree – any education is a good education including many degrees from online schools and universities. However, these seemingly pointless studies may be an exception to that rule. Pay attention as we list the top 10 most useless college degrees.
10. David Beckham studies – Staffordshire University, UK



It might sound like a joke, but the squeaky-voiced soccer star actually has a degree course dedicated to him. The course, which is technically classed as “Football Culture”, has been defended by its founder, who argues that degree courses must keep with the times. Celeb-style degrees can also be found in the US, with Madonna studies injected into the Gender course at Harvard (no less) and Oprah Winfrey studies at Illinois.

9. Parapsychology – various colleges


This degree is perfect for starting a career with Ghostbusters. Oh wait, Ghostbusters are fictional – that’s four years wasted. Nevertheless, this course dedicated to the study of the paranormal (Slimer and haunted houses included) is popping up in universities and colleges worldwide. Coventry, Edinburgh, Northampton and Liverpool in the UK, plus Belford and Flamel in the US all offer the course, which makes you wonder if people are watching too many Most Haunted episodes.
8. Doctorate of Philosophy in Ufology – Melbourne University



In August this year, Aussie Martin Plowman became the first student to become a real Dr Who after passing his studies of unidentified flying objects. After his major in culture and communications, he decided he wanted to do something a bit different, so he chose little green men. However, despite his new status, he remains open-minded about things: “When I meet someone who says they’ve seen something strange, that’s fair enough, because maybe they have. I don’t know what it is, though,”
7. The Phallus – Occidental College



It’s difficult to get to grips with the exact nature of this course – if you’ll pardon the pun. It’s cited as studies “between the phallus and the penis, the meaning of the phallus, phallologocentrism, the lesbian phallus, the Jewish phallus, the Latino phallus, and the relation of the phallus and fetishism” but is actually a survey offered by this distinguished college’s department of critical theory and social justice.
6. Surfing Studies – Plymouth / Melbourne



Gone are the days of dumb surfer dudes riding the waves without a care. Now, surfing means business. With Plymouth Uni in the UK offering a BSc (Hons) in Surf Science and Technology and Southern Cross University in Australia offering Surf and Sport Management, is seems the seaside slackers want to be taken seriously. What next? Wrestling degrees?
5. Philosophy – various colleges



Philosophy, like sociology and psychology, is one of those degrees that people do when they’re not quite sure what vocation they want to follow . It’s a fun-time four years, open to stoners, egocentrics and those that love the sound of their own voice, who will finish the course even more confused at what they want to do in life and probably end up working at a convenience store.
4. Queer Musicology – UCLA



Due to seemingly popular demand, the UCLA have actually combined queer theory – the study of gender, feminism and gayness – with the science of music, to produce a very open-minded course within their Herb Alpert School of Music. The LA Times reported that the course will introduce debates like: “the idea that if you’re gay, then music by gay composers such as Benjamin Britten will sound different to you than it would if you were straight.”
3. Star Trek – Georgetown University in Washington



It’s a degree, Jim, but not as we know it. The Georgetown faculty of Philosophy argues that “Star Trek is very philosophical. What better way, then, to learn philosophy, than to watch Star Trek, read philosophy, and hash it all out in class?” The Trekkies have also landed at Indiana University, who curiously combine their Star Trek Studies with religion. If only there were more vacancies for professional dorks…
2. Golf Management – University of Birmingham / Florida Gulf Coast University



Here’s another useless sport degree spreading through Universities across the world, but this one lands the number two position because it’s not even fun. There’s nothing much duller than playing golf apart from studying golf, so why these two Universities have offered courses covering the psychology of golf; equipment technology; financial performance and coach education, is a mystery.
1. Art History – various colleges



What career would you ever get with a degree in art history? Maybe an art gallery curator, but how many of those does the world actually need? Most art history courses consist of a selection of well-to-do teenagers and arty-hippy types deliberating over the same Dali and Magritte paintings for four, even five years straight. It’s time to move on!
Honorable Mentions:

The Science of Harry Potter – Frostburg University

Maryland’s Frostburg University provides this honors seminar, which is really a physics class that investigates the supposed magic of Harry Potter. Seems like an excuse to watch the Harry Potter movies.
Learning from YouTube – Pitzer College

California’s Pitzer College has added a class named, Learning from YouTube. TechCrunch reports that “the class consists of students watching YouTube videos and then discussing them. They also leave comments on the videos themselves.”

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Snubby has a DD214 from the Army - most probably of the 'General Discharge' variety for bucking the system when employed by them. The UCMJ doesn't mess around.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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You come across as a very embittered person, snubbles. Where has the 'system' failed you and why are you tilting at windmills here?

I am not embittered but I am committed to changing a system that doesn't represent the people but corporations and the mega rich.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Snubby has a DD214 from the Army - most probably of the 'General Discharge' variety for bucking the system when employed by them. The UCMJ doesn't mess around.

Very funny booners. Yes I have one of those and you got the branch right. It is of the Honorable variety. That is not something I will ever regret doing.

I waited to rattle cages.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Snubby has a DD214 from the Army - most probably of the 'General Discharge' variety for bucking the system when employed by them. The UCMJ doesn't mess around.

I understand..
No, wait a minute, I haven't got a clue what you just said.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^^ Your posts are very simple to distill down. You sound simply like the rightwing father telling his children not to buck the system, not to stand up for what is right, to accept the status quo, to ignore the corruption of corporate America and the politicians they control and to just get a job son any job. Bow down to your corporate masters.

I am sure that you and the boontard are fast friends.

Well bsnub....I've never really though of myself as all that "rightwing" but if being a realist and adhering to common sense makes me a rightwinger then I must bow to your conviction.....

You see us rightwingers understand that "corporations" are made up of people....shocking I know....maybe you should sit down for a minute here......
Even those awful banks are full of people....some of them earn big money, most of them do not. Successful corporations sometime make big profits....which they frequently distribute to......wait for it.....people. The people who get these dividends (from the awful corporations) then spend the money of stuff made by other awful corporations which employ more people....and so on and so on.
The people who benefit from all this excess money making are that awful breed generally referred to as investors. Nasty people who believe in the system and buy into it with their own money....hard earned or not.

Now as a diehard leftie you may not understand that you too can actually buy into these outfits and gain untold benefits from their excesses. If you think oil companies are making obscene profits....buy oil company stock. It's really true....I tried it myself years ago when I was not making any great amout of money, but I was convinced that I should make a small sacrafice and buy some bank stock.

It was terrible seeing my peers buying new cars, snowmobiles, designer shoes and all kinds of stuff that I could not "afford" at the time because I was squandering a good portion of my "disposable" income buying into those facist led, greedy, unethical corporations that are hell bent on destroying the planet and grinding down the poor working man while they make all the things that all of us....regardless of political belief actually need and use every day. This is risky business....they don't always go up you know.....sometimes they come down....sometimes a lot; but over time if you are patient and keep your rightwing brain working, you can in fact build up some wealth, retirement income and all kinds of good things.

The alternative is to work in some factory, getting a good paycheque....stay there for 25 years and then get fired when the factory gets moved to Vietnam. You have been paid for every hour and day you worked there, but you did not save or invest a nickle.... cause the government will take care of you....right.??? You don't bother to save or invest, because the Marxist indoctrinated teacher in highschool convinced you that wealth is something that comes from the government and that you are "entitled" to a piece of it, regardless if you earn it or not. Investing is for wealthy greedy people who just want to exploit the poor workers.

Now one of the hiccups that occured in the system, is that the poor workers became a tad greedy too. They formed big powerful unions that "negotiated" wonderful pay and benefits for the workers. What they failed to recogize is that the employers (corporations) are in the business of making things for profit and once the labour component of their cost structujre gets too high, they move somewhere else, or invest in more automation to reduce the workforce.
The simple fact of the matter is that labour is just another commodity that is subject to supply and demand fluctuations. It is also subject to price, in the sense that once the price demanded is too high, the buyer will decline and find a better price somewhere else. Did the unions and their members really believe that General Motors could keep paying them twice or three times what their labour was actually worth indefinetely? Apparently they did. It's another one of those quaint left wing notions that gets us into soooo much trouble....


No matter what "system" you live under, you are ultimately responsible for your own success. and welfare. Socialist, Communist and Capitalist economies have failed over the years. Citzens of the Soviet Union were wiped out when their system collapsed. We are watching the current failure of socialist economies across southern Europe....having to be bailed out by their more industrious neighbours. If they fail; then their citizens too will lose their government benefits, government pensions and much of their dignity. The citizens of those countries that have had the foresight and savvy to invest in a diverse market and not rely on the socialist bullshit that the general populations have been weaned on, will survive just fine. The rest may well be eating dog food. That as they say...is how the cookie crumbles.

I see that you live in Seattle bsnut....a city I know quite well. I had some good friends out in Renton and that area. Seattle, is I belive the most "educated" city in America in that it has more degree holders per-capita than any other city.
It is also a democrat stronghold and tends to be quite leftist in general.

I find that quite ironic in view of the fact that the whole area's economy is dependent on very rightwing capitalist corporations.....like Boeing, Microsoft, etc.
Without these corporations and their capitalist rulers and investors, your city would be a depressed garbage dump and you would all be living on minimum wage.

Do you lefties really have a clue where your bacon is earned...who pays the bills... where all that local wealth comes from???? Hint....it's not the government...

Now you have sent me two reds already......just for expressing a different point of view, but I have not sent you one yet....I'm not a vindictive rightwinger you see and I don't feel the need to be childish about it..but I'm getting awful tempted...

Oh..one more thing...as Columbo used to say... I don't know Boon Mee. Never met him and he has no idea who I am. I think for myself and it appears he does as well. He seems to be doing an excellent job of keeping the TD communist party wound up... I'm actually very independent as far as pocitics and social policy is concerned. I think some socialist parties in some countries have good ideas and it puzzles the hell out of me why so many otherwise rational Americans have this almost hysterical opposition to socialized medical care. I've live in three countries that have it. UK, Germany and Canada.

It works very well most of the time and has not bankrupted anyone. It is a significant financial burden but if any political party ran for election on a platform of dismantling it....they would be luck to get 1% of the vote. Like any system it can be abused, and it can be inefficient at times, but overall it is far better than what a great many Americans have....I swear. It's not charity....it is paid for by premiums charged to all citizens who participate. The risk is spread over the whole population so the premiums are much lower than private insurance (which is still availabe for those that want to pay for excess coverage) and the coverage is far better.

Shit....now somebody's gonna call me a communist.....

Originally Posted by koman

Marxist indoctrinated teacher in highschool convinced you that wealth is something that comes from the government

Umm, got any more of that Kool aid.