Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by havnfun

Experts, LOL, experts in propaganda maybe.
An expert mountain climber can actually climb a mountain.
An expert marksman can hit a target,
An expert batsman can hit a ball,
An expert driver can race an F1 car,
on and on and on, these so called experts have done nothing to prove they are experts at anything other than spouting UN propaganda for 30 years,
Experts at what?
An expert on global warming can follow orders.

You don't need to keep proving you're a fucking moron.

You could have used a bit of nouce "H"

An expert moron - havnfun

Does anyone doubt that the climate on earth changes? No
But ask yourself one question, Why do people with lot's of money that want you to pay for "carbon usage" buy massive ocean front property if they really believe that the sea level will rise that much in 12 years.

So my opinion is that I will do as they do and not what they say.

Originally Posted by havnfun

Does anyone doubt that the climate on earth changes? No
But ask yourself one question, Why do people with lot's of money that want you to pay for "carbon usage" buy massive ocean front property if they really believe that the sea level will rise that much in 12 years.

So my opinion is that I will do as they do and not what they say.

Right. The greenwashers can prove all day that the temperature is rising. But what they have to prove is that nature does not have a way of counter balancing rising C02.

I grew marijuana indoors. And we had a C02 burner. And my golly the plants actually grew faster because we were feeding them more C02. And that's what we have now in the environment. There is more forest in Europe now than there was 100 years ago.

This experimental fusion reactor put out a record-breaking 10 quadrillion watts | TechRadar

Originally Posted by RPETER65

This experimental fusion reactor put out a record-breaking 10 quadrillion watts | TechRadar

for 100 trillionths of a second

Which ironically is roughly the same proportion of the average second during which repeater's brain actually works.

Laser fusion experiment nears crucial break even point in energy generation

Rain at the summit of Greenland | Greenland Ice Sheet Today

On August 14, 2021, rain was observed at the highest point on the Greenland Ice Sheet for several hours, and air temperatures remained above freezing for about nine hours. This was the third time in less than a decade, and the latest date in the year on record, that the National Science Foundation’s Summit Station had above-freezing temperatures and wet snow. There is no previous report of rainfall at this location (72.58°N 38.46°W), which reaches 3,216 meters (10,551 feet) in elevation. Earlier melt events in the instrumental record occurred in 1995, 2012, and 2019; prior to those events, melting is inferred from ice cores to have been absent since an event in the late 1800s. The cause of the melting event that took place from August 14 to 16, 2021, was similar to the events that occurred this late July, where a strong low pressure center over Baffin Island and high air pressure southeast of Greenland conspired to push warm air and moisture rapidly from the south.

The plot shows 2-meter air temperature for August 14, as a departure from the 1979 to 2000 reference period for the Arctic and surrounding regions. The plot indicates the warm conditions in southwestern Greenland extending to the Summit region.

Rain falls on peak of Greenland ice cap for first time

Rain has fallen on the summit of Greenland’s huge ice cap for the first time on record. Temperatures are normally well below freezing on the 3,216m (10,551ft) peak, and the precipitation is a stark sign of the climate crisis.

Scientists at the US National Science Foundation’s summit station saw rain falling throughout August 14th but had no gauges to measure the fall because the precipitation was so unexpected. Across Greenland, an estimated 7 billion tonnes of water was released from the clouds.

The rain fell during an exceptionally hot three days in Greenland when temperatures were 18 degrees higher than average in places. As a result, melting was seen in most of Greenland, across an area about four times the size of the UK.

The recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change concluded it was “unequivocal” that carbon emissions from human activities were heating the planet and causing impacts such as melting ice and rising sea level.

In May, researchers reported that a significant part of the Greenland ice sheet was nearing a tipping point, after which accelerated melting would become inevitable even if global heating was halted.

Ted Scambos, a scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado, which reported the rain at the Greenland peak, told CNN: “What is going on is not simply a warm decade or two in a wandering climate pattern. This is unprecedented. We are crossing thresholds not seen in millennia, and frankly this is not going to change until we adjust what we’re doing to the air.”

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Which ironically is roughly the same proportion of the average second during which repeater's brain actually works.

Laser fusion experiment nears crucial break even point in energy generation

You are one strange fellow my friend

This graph shows the near record-low amount of multiyear ice in the Arctic as of week 31 (July 30 to August 5) of the 2021 melt season, comparing this year to the same week in previous years of the satellite record that began in 1979.

This graph compares the area of multiyear ice in the Arctic between 2021, 2020, and the average from 2008 to 2019 as it melts out throughout the spring and summer. The grey lines depict previous years for general comparison.

National Snow and Ice Data Center |

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You are one strange fellow my friend

What, because I posted the link to the story that you reposted because you can't read?

Climate change increased the odds and intensity of deadly European floods

Climate change made deadly European floods more severe

Human-caused climate change increased the likelihood and intensity of the heavy rainfall that helped cause the devastating floods in Europe in July, an international team of 39 climate scientists stated Monday.

Why it matters: The study, released Monday, demonstrates how global warming is already influencing extreme weather events in ways that ramp up disaster risks.

The big picture: A slow-moving low pressure system that tapped into a plume of water vapor-laden air over the Mediterranean helped dump record amounts of rain in Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg from July 12 to 15 of this year.

• The resulting flash floods and river flooding tore apart communities, and killed at least 220 people in Belgium and Germany alone.

What they found: The study found that human-caused climate change to date made the heavy rainfall amounts, which caused the floods, between 1.2 and 9 times more likely.

• On a call with reporters Monday, some of the report's authors said the paucity of long-term river flow records made it hard to narrow down that wide range of results, but added that it is clear that this was an unprecedented rainfall event for the regions most affected.
• For example, more than 3.67 inches of rain fell during a single day in the vicinity of the Ahr and Erft rivers in Germany, which broke all-time rainfall records.
• While the new research did find clear ties between the human-driven increase in greenhouse gases and the floods, it also illustrated some of the limitations of what's known as extreme event attribution, particularly when it comes to data that has sparse periods of record or is influenced by multiple factors.
• Challenges for this analysis included the localized nature of some of the heaviest rains, and the lack of reliable long-term river flow data, in part because the floods themselves destroyed so many river measurement stations.
• Many factors other than climate events can affect flooding, too, including the built environment and geography in and around waterways.

How they did it: To determine the role that climate change played in influencing the rainfall rates and totals, researchers examined historical weather data as well as different types of computer models run with and without the effects of human-caused global warming.

• The simulations with climate change most closely matched the event that occurred.
• The study looked closely at two key areas affected: the Ahr and Erft river regions of Germany and the Meuse river region in Belgium. The latter area saw 4.2 inches of rainfall over a two-day period, and this water fell on already saturated soils, which meant it ran off directly into rivers and streams.
• In looking at this smaller region, the scientists found too much variability in the data to reach firm conclusions, which prompted them to zoom out slightly to look at summer rainfall across a broader area to find the likelihood of such extreme rainfall events in much of Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands.
• The data pulled from the larger region revealed the upward trend in odds as well as intensity. The study concludes that human-caused climate change boosted the amount of single-day rainfall in this event by between 3% and 19%.

Context: The new study is the product of a global network of scientists who use peer-reviewed research methods to rapidly assess climate change's role, or lack thereof, in extreme weather events. The effort is known as the World Weather Attribution project.

What's next: The study finds that for a climate that is 2°C (3.6°F) warmer than the preindustrial era, the intensity of a similar 1-day rainfall event would jump by another 0.6% to 6%, and the likelihood by a factor of 1.2 to 1.4.

What they're saying: "Climate change is hitting us everywhere now," said Maarten van Aalst, a study coauthor and director of the Red Cross Red Crescent Climate Center.

"The increase in risk that we found in this study is something we need to manage by thinking about our flood risk management, about our preparedness, about early warning systems, being ready to tell people what's coming their way and people knowing what to do at that point," he said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/clim...ibution-study/

https://www.worldweatherattribution....ttribution.pdf

Europe experiences warmest year on record in 2020 - Met Office

Dr. Simon Evans- Met Office: Last year was the hottest on record in Europe

It was a staggering 1.9C hotter than average for 1981-2010

2020 broke the previous record by a massive 0.6-0.7C (eyeballing the graph)

The last six years include the five hottest years on record

https://twitter.com/DrSimEvans/statu...59706586701831

Glen Peters - Observed warming is driven by emissions from human activities, with GHG warming partly masked by aerosol cooling.

Warming components add to >1.8°C, while cooling components subtract ~0.8°C, with a net warming of 1.06°C.: https://twitter.com/Peters_Glen/stat...70511401324552

In other news……….

Judge rebuffs red states' challenge to Biden's 'social costs' of greenhouse gases

A federal judge rejected a challenge from 12 states with Republican attorneys general that attempted to block the Biden administration from using certain figures to calculate the climate benefits of rules it puts forward, known as the "social costs" of greenhouse gases.

The states sued the Biden administration in March, trying to prevent it from using interim values for the costs of carbon, methane and nitrous oxide that were calculated during the Obama administration and adjusted for inflation.

Both Democratic and Republican administrations have used this “social cost” calculation to quantify the climate benefits or consequences in cost-benefit analyses that provide legal justification for their regulatory actions.

But values have varied between administrations, with the Obama administration, for example, estimating the social value of emissions reductions to be higher than the Trump administration did.

On his first day in office, President Biden directed an interagency working group to establish temporary social costs within a month and calculate final social costs by January 2022.

In February, the White House returned to the Obama-era figure for the moment.

In their lawsuit, the coalition of states, led by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt (R), argued that Biden’s directions were an overreach, exercising a “quintessentially legislative power.”

But judge Audrey Fleissig, an Obama appointee in Missouri, argued that her court lacks jurisdiction.

Fleissig also argued that the states weren’t able to show that they’d actually be harmed by the social cost values, and asserted the fact that they could be harmed by future regulations justified by the values isn’t “concrete.”

Just for fun.

New technology. Carbon Capture and Storage

Copernicus - August 2021 was tied with August 2017 to be the third warmest August on record

Globally, August 2021 was:

• 0.31°C warmer than the 1991-2020 average for August
• very similar in temperature to August 2017, making the two years the joint third warmest Augusts on record
• cooler by only 0.1°C than August 2016, the warmest August on record
• cooler by only 0.05°C than August 2019, the second warmest August.

Copernicus

in other news……

Biden says he'll go to UN climate conference: 'We've got to move the rest of the world'

President Biden affirmed on Tuesday that he’s planning to go to a major United Nations climate conference set to take place in Glasgow, Scotland, saying that both the U.S. and the rest of the world have to take climate action.

“I’m going to be heading ... from here to Glasgow in Scotland for the [Conference of the Parties] COP meeting, which is all the nations of the world getting together deciding what we’re going to do about climate change,” Biden said while speaking in New York after Hurricane Ida.

He said that Special Climate Envoy John Kerry will lead the effort at the international conference set to take place in November.

“We are determined that we are going to deal with climate change and have ... zero net emissions by 2050,” he said. “We’re going to be able to do these things, but we’ve got to move ... and we’ve got to move the rest of the world.”

By the November meeting, countries are expected to put forward 2030 emissions reduction targets with the ultimate goal of reaching net-zero emissions by the middle of the century.

Zeke Hausfather - August 2021 was the third warmest August on record in the @CopernicusECMWF ERA5 dataset, around 0.7C warmer than the early 1980s and around 1.21C warmer than the preindustrial era.

2021 is on track to be between the 5th and 7th warmest year on record.: https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1435781563585867781

Ed Hawkins - Indicators of our changing climate: https://twitter.com/ed_hawkins/statu...31196144418816

In other news…….

Summer of 2021 tied for hottest in US since 1936 Dust Bowl

The summer of 2021 was tied with the 1936 Dust Bowl as the hottest summer on record, according to a new National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) report.

June, July and August had a combined average temperature that was nearly 0.01°F hotter than the extreme heat experienced during the Dust Bowl summer.

Several states, including California, Nevada, Utah, Oregon and Idaho, individually experienced their hottest temperatures on record. Additionally, 16 states recorded summer temperatures that made it into the top five for warmest summers on record. No states reported temperatures that fell below average, according to NOAA.

NOAA - The August 2021 global surface temperature was 0.90°C (1.62°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F). This was the sixth warmest August on record. Nine of the 10 warmest Augusts have occurred since 2009.

The June–August seasonal global surface temperature departure of +0.90°C (+1.62°F) was the fourth highest for the three-month season on record. Only June–August of 2016, 2019, and 2020 were warmer.

National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

• Climate change could spark migration of 216M people

Climate change could displace 216 million people by 2050 if issues like rising sea levels, water shortages and decreased crop productivity go unaddressed, a World Bank report titled Groundswell 2.0 warned on Monday.

The report found that climate migration "hotspots" could emerge by 2030 and cause serious strife in some of the world's most poverty-stricken regions.

Sub-Saharan Africa alone could account for 86 million internal migrants. The report forecasts another 49 million to come from East Asia and the Pacific, while 40 million others could migrate within South Asia.

Such dramatic movement would have a major impact on both the places people are leaving and the locations where they are resettling.

• Climate change: World now sees twice as many days over 50C

The number of extremely hot days every year when the temperature reaches 50C has doubled since the 1980s, a global BBC analysis has found.

They also now happen in more areas of the world than before, presenting unprecedented challenges to human health and to how we live.

The total number of days above 50C (122F) has increased in each decade since 1980. On average, between 1980 and 2009, temperatures passed 50C about 14 days a year.

The number rose to 26 days a year between 2010 and 2019.

In the same period, temperatures of 45C and above occurred on average an extra two weeks a year.

"The increase can be 100% attributed to the burning of fossil fuels," says Dr Friederike Otto, associate director of the Environmental Change Institute at the University of Oxford.

In other news,…..

• Vermont sues oil companies over misleading information on climate change

Vermont on Tuesday filed suit against several fossil fuel companies, alleging the companies misled consumers about their products' effects on climate change.

Vermont Attorney General T.J. Donovan said the state is asking companies for product transparency akin to labels on tobacco products, The Associated Press (AP) reported. But Donovan said the state is not attempting to prevent the companies from selling their products in the state.

“What we are saying is that Vermonters have the right to know,” Donovan said, per the AP. “Give Vermonters accurate information. Put a label on the product and let Vermonters decide.”

https://ago.vermont.gov/wp-content/u...aint-FINAL.pdf

There are no antivaxxers, no global warming deniers, no anti science idiots etc. there are only dim witted tools to be used by the players to enhance their revenue stream.

JMA also released their August 2021 number. It shows that August 2021 was the 4^th warmest August recorded.

Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)

1st. 2016 (+0.34°C), 2nd. 2019,2015 (+0.28°C), 4th. 2021,2020 (+0.27°C)

Japan Meteorological Agency

NASA – August 2021 was the 6^th warmest August recorded

Data.GISS:
GISS Surface Temperature Analysis (GISTEMP v4)

Little more about August 2021

• Asia had its second-warmest August on record—behind August 2016—and Africa had its third warmest. North America, South America and Oceania all had an August that ranked in the top-10 warmest. Although August 2021 was warmer than average across Europe, it was the coolest August since 2008.: Latest news and features | National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

• US and EU pledge 30% cut in methane emissions to limit global heating

The US and the EU made a joint pledge on Friday to cut global methane emissions by almost a third in the next decade, in what climate experts hailed as one of the most significant steps yet towards fulfilling the Paris climate agreement.

The pledge came as the UN secretary-general, António Guterres, warned of a “high risk of failure” at the vital UN climate talks, Cop26, set for Glasgow this November.

Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, about 80 times more effective at trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide, and emissions have been rising in recent years. Natural gas production and fracking, meat production and other forms of agriculture are among the chief sources.

The pact between the US and the EU sets a target of cutting at least 30% from global methane emissions, based on 2020 levels, by 2030. If adopted around the world, this would reduce global heating by 0.2C by the 2040s, compared with likely temperature rises by then. The world is now about 1.2C hotter now than in pre-industrial times.

Boris Johnson said the UK would be one of the first to join the US-EU methane pledge, when it opens for more signatories at Cop26. He told a meeting of world leaders from major economies on Friday: “Over the last 30 years the UK has cut emissions of methane by something like 60%. And there are good commercial uses for methane, you can use it to make fabrics, you can use it to make antifreeze. So the world could slash its output of this powerful greenhouse gas tomorrow if we wanted to.”

Extra……..

• Biden Pursues New Regulation To Protect Workers From Extreme Heat

The White House announced Monday that it plans to develop a federal rule that will require employers to keep workers safe from extreme heat, something workplace safety advocates have sought for years.

The rule will be crafted by the Labor Department’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration and will apply to both indoor and outdoor workplaces, the White House said. The administration did not release details on what requirements the rule will include, saying it will take the first steps in the rule-making process in October.

President Joe Biden issued a statement saying he was “mobilizing the administration to address extreme heat,” noting that heat waves brought record temperatures this summer to areas like the Pacific Northwest, where hundreds of people died.

“Rising temperatures pose an imminent threat to millions of American workers exposed to the elements, to kids in schools without air conditioning, to seniors in nursing homes without cooling resources, and particularly to disadvantaged communities,” the president said.

A federal heat standard set by OSHA would be significant for several reasons. It would lay out in clear detail what an employer’s obligations are in protecting workers from high heat and give the agency stronger ground from which to issue fines. It would also set minimum requirements in every state, most of which have no occupational rules when it comes to heat.

Dr. Zeke Hausfather - Summer 2021 was the warmest summer on record for the Earth's land regions (where we all live!). Temperatures for June, July, and August were around 1.5C above preindustrial levels.: https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/...179285/photo/1

• On September 16, Arctic sea ice likely reached its annual minimum extent of 4.72 million square kilometers (1.82 million square miles). The 2021 minimum is the twelfth lowest in the nearly 43-year satellite record. The last 15 years are the lowest 15 sea ice extents in the satellite record. The amount of multi-year ice (ice that has survived at least one summer melt season), is one of the lowest levels in the ice age record, which began in 1984.

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Arctic Sea Ice Reaches 2021 Minimum Extent

• ‘Big Deal’ Rule Slashing Climate Pollutants Finalized by EPA

The Biden administration on Thursday finalized its first major move in climate regulation, aimed at curbing greenhouse gases by slashing climate superpollutants called hydrofluorocarbons.

The rule facilitates an 85% phasedown of the use of hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, over the next 15 years. That’s estimated to cut the equivalent of 4.5 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide by 2050, White House National Climate Adviser Gina McCarthy told reporters at a Wednesday night press briefing.

“It’s really frankly, folks, a very big deal,” she said.

The new standards get the U.S. on track to meet international HFC reduction goals ahead of the upcoming United Nations climate summit in Glasgow. President Joe Biden is eager to show U.S. leadership on climate change on multiple fronts.: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/produc...nalized-by-epa

• Newsom signs $15 billion package to fight climate change

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a $15 billion climate package on Thursday as California wildfires threaten more sequoias at Sequoia National Park.

Why it matters: The package is the largest such investment in California history as drought conditions have worsened across the state and led to numerous wildfires. More than 1.9 million acres have burned across the state this year, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, including over 220,000 in the Caldor fire last month.

The big picture: The climate package directs money to build wildfire and forest resilience and support immediate drought response and long-term water resilience.

The package also directly protects communities across the state from multi-faceted climate risks, including extreme heat and sea level rise.

The $15 billion package is the final piece of the state's $262.5 billion operating budget, per KPIX-TV. The spending also includes $1.2 billion for water recycling projects, grants to help communities plan for climate change and more.

“California is doubling down on our nation-leading policies to confront the climate crisis head-on while protecting the hardest-hit communities,” Newsom said.