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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I see repeater hasn't wittered here in a while, he must be at home still trying to get his Parler account to work.


    He oddly seems to have exiled himself to this thread. The coward has stopped posting in other political threads since the GOP lost all three branches of government.

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    Met Office - 2020 ends earth’s warmest 10 years on record

    The HadCRUT5 global temperature series, produced by the Met Office, University of East Anglia and UK National Centre for Atmospheric Science, shows that the average for 2020 as a whole was 1.28±0.08°C above pre-industrial levels, taken as the average over the period 1850-1900. This makes 2020 nominally the second warmest year in the dataset’s record.

    Data from a number of climate monitoring centres including the Met Office, NASA and NOAA are compiled by scientists at the Met Office for the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to create its central annual global mean temperature estimate. The collection of datasets that make up the WMO figure all show that the previous 10 years were the warmest on record. In addition, they also all place 2020 in the top three years on record.

    The ranking of second warmest in the HadCRUT5 dataset’s record is despite a transition into La Niña conditions in late 2020, which typically suppress global temperatures. Temperatures in the warmest year, 2016, were elevated by El Niño conditions which can increase global temperatures by around +0.2°C.


    By using multiple datasets, it is possible to reduce some of the uncertainty in such complex global calculations. The important message is that the same general evolution of increasing global mean temperature is shown by all datasets: HadCRUT5; GISTEMP; NOAAGlobalTemp; ERA5; JRA-55; Berkeley Earth and Cowtan and Way.



    The main contributor to warming over the last 170 years is human influence on climate from increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The effects of human-induced climate change are not limited to surface temperature. Warming of the climate system is seen across a range of climate indicators that build a holistic picture of climate change far beyond our expectations from natural variability across the land, atmosphere, oceans and ice.: Weather and climate change - Met Office
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    Berkeley Earth - 2020 was nearly tied with 2016 as the warmest year, coming in only 0.02 °C cooler, less than the margin of uncertainty.


    Since 1850, the average land has warmed about 1.9 °C (3.4 °F), and 2020 had unambiguously the warmest land average yet observed.


    Despite year-to-year variations due to weather fluctuations (e.g. El Niño/La Niña), the long-term pattern of global warming due to human activities is little changed since ~1970.

    At current rates, 1.5 °C above pre-industrial will be reached ~2035, and 2.0 °C by ~2065.

    As can be expected from the global warming caused by greenhouse gases, the temperature increase over the globe is broadly distributed, affecting nearly all land and ocean areas. In 2020, 87% of the Earth’s surface was significantly warmer than the average temperature during 1951-1980, 12% was of a similar temperature, and only 1.3% was significantly colder.


    The extraordinary warmth in Siberia led to permafrost thawing and caused unanticipated disruptions. With anomalous warmth extending into the areas of the Arctic Ocean adjacent to Siberia, it also led to a record-smashing three and a half months of traversable open ocean along the Northern Sea Route (Northeast Passage) within the Arctic. Prior to the year 2005, open ocean passages in the Arctic rarely formed.


    https://twitter.com/BerkeleyEarth/st...54442242011137 - Global Temperature Report for 2020 - Berkeley Earth

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    NOAA – 2020 year end

    The year began in ENSO-neutral conditions, transitioning to La Niña by August 2020. During the year, each monthly temperature for the months of January through November ranked among the four warmest on record for their respective months. While the months of January, May, and September were record warm. Meanwhile, the month of December had a global land and ocean surface temperature departure of 0.78°C (1.40°F) above the 20th century average—this was the smallest monthly temperature departure during 2020 and was the eighth warmest December on record.

    With a slightly cooler end to the year, the year 2020 secured the rank of second warmest year in the 141-year record, with a global land and ocean surface temperature departure from average of +0.98°C (+1.76°F). This value is only 0.02°C (0.04°F) shy of tying the record high value of +1.00°C (+1.80°F) set in 2016 and only 0.03°C (0.05°F) above the now third warmest year on record set in 2019.

    The global annual temperature has increased at an average rate of 0.08°C (0.14°F) per decade since 1880 and over twice that rate (+0.18°C / +0.32°F) since 1981.



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    ^Seriously? A fvckin’ opinion piece.

    This animation depicts the Earth's warming trends since record-keeping began in 1850.

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    Stop using fossil fuels. It's simple. Announce a plan to tax the fuck out of fossil fuels and use the money raised to subsidise renewables and the things that use them.

    Electric vehicles are close to the “tipping point” of rapid mass adoption thanks to the plummeting cost of batteries, experts say.
    Global sales rose 43% in 2020, but even faster growth is anticipated when continuing falls in battery prices bring the price of electric cars dipping below that of equivalent petrol and diesel models, even without subsidies. The latest analyses forecast that to happen some time between 2023 and 2025.
    The tipping point has already been passed in Norway, where tax breaks mean electric cars are cheaper. The market share of battery-powered cars soared to 54% in 2020 in the Nordic country, compared with less than 5% in most European nations.


    Transport is a major source of carbon emissions and electric cars are vital in efforts to fight the climate crisis. But, while they are already cheaper to run, their higher purchase price is a barrier to mass uptake. The other key factor is “range anxiety”, but this week the first factory production began of batteries capable of giving a 200-mile charge in five minutes.
    Government grants and tax breaks have cut the cost of electric cars in some countries, but the point when they become cheaper without subsidies is key, said James Frith, the head of energy storage at BloombergNEF: “That’s definitely an inflection point. [Then] we really see the adoption of electric vehicles taking off and real market penetration.” In 2020, 4.2% of new cars were electric.
    Prof Tim Lenton, at the University of Exeter, said: “There’s been a tipping point in one country, Norway, and that’s thanks to some clever and progressive tax incentives. Then consumers voted with their wallets.”
    Electric vehicles close to ‘tipping point’ of mass adoption | Environment | The Guardian.

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    Do you just skip over the part where climate scientists are saying stopping the use of fossil fuels is not enough.

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    Constraining human contributions to observed warming since the pre-industrial period

    Parties to the Paris Agreement agreed to holding global average temperature increases “well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and pursuing efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels”. Monitoring the contributions of human-induced climate forcings to warming so far is key to understanding progress towards these goals. Here we use climate model simulations from the Detection and Attribution Model Intercomparison Project, as well as regularized optimal fingerprinting, to show that anthropogenic forcings caused 0.9 to 1.3 °C of warming in global mean near-surface air temperature in 2010–2019 relative to 1850–1900, compared with an observed warming of 1.1 °C. Greenhouse gases and aerosols contributed changes of 1.2 to 1.9 °C and −0.7 to −0.1 °C, respectively, and natural forcings contributed negligibly. These results demonstrate the substantial human influence on climate so far and the urgency of action needed to meet the Paris Agreement goals.: Constraining human contributions to observed warming since the pre-industrial period | Nature Climate Change

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Do you just skip over the part where climate scientists are saying stopping the use of fossil fuels is not enough.
    Do you just skip over the bit that says we should stop using fossil fuels?

    Yes you do, because *every* *fucking* *post* from you seems to think carbon capture means we can carry on as normal, despite the fact that *not* *once* have you offered any way to pay for it.

    This is because you are a retarded republican coffin dodger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you just skip over the bit that says we should stop using fossil fuels?

    Yes you do, because *every* *fucking* *post* from you seems to think carbon capture means we can carry on as normal, despite the fact that *not* *once* have you offered any way to pay for it.

    This is because you are a retarded republican coffin dodger.
    If your reading comprehension skills were up to par you would see the posts I make concerning carbon capture show a need for both a reduction and eventual elimination of fossil fuels and capturing current carbon in the atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    If your reading comprehension skills were up to par you would see the posts I make concerning carbon capture show a need for both a reduction and eventual elimination of fossil fuels and capturing current carbon in the atmosphere.
    Oh fuck off you haven't even managed to work out how much this shit costs, let alone made a suggestion as to who should pay for it.

    Here's a suggestion: Make the fossil fuel industry pay for it as they dismantle their toxic infrastructure. Bankrupt them or nationalise them if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh fuck off you haven't even managed to work out how much this shit costs, let alone made a suggestion as to who should pay for it.

    Here's a suggestion: Make the fossil fuel industry pay for it as they dismantle their toxic infrastructure. Bankrupt them or nationalise them if need be.
    But you have nothing to say about the fact climate scientists are now coming to the conclusion carbon capture is necessary if the goal to stop climate change will be met.

    Is the cost really what matters to you in the drive to stop global warming if in reality carbon capture will be one of the key parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    But you have nothing to say about the fact climate scientists are now coming to the conclusion carbon capture is necessary if the goal to stop climate change will be met.

    Is the cost really what matters to you in the drive to stop global warming if in reality carbon capture will be one of the key parts?
    The only reason it is deemed necessary is because the oil companies continue to lobby to protect their business, so no meaningful cuts to CO2 emissions can be made.

    Which I said I'm fine with if their profits are appropriated to pay for it on the scale that will be needed to offset their pollution.

    In fact I said that about 50 posts ago.

    The problem is that the fossil fuel industry is still doing everything it can to block the development of renewables, thus creating a problem which of course they would offer to solve with carbon capture if given trillions by the governments of this world.

    Stupid fucks like you are only helping their profiteering ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The only reason it is deemed necessary is because the oil companies continue to lobby to protect their business, so no meaningful cuts to CO2 emissions can be made.

    Which I said I'm fine with if their profits are appropriated to pay for it on the scale that will be needed to offset their pollution.

    In fact I said that about 50 posts ago.

    The problem is that the fossil fuel industry is still doing everything it can to block the development of renewables, thus creating a problem which of course they would offer to solve with carbon capture if given trillions by the governments of this world.

    Stupid fucks like you are only helping their profiteering ways.

    That is not what the scientists are saying.

    Limiting climate change now requires carbon capture, study says - Business Insider

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    You might want to quote one who is an actual climate scientist rather than a former oil company executive who has spent most of his career in business.



    The report has been criticized by many scientists who raise questions about its methodology and analysis. “To be frank, the paper is crap that should not have passed any competent peer review… It’s an interesting thought experiment, but its results should be taken with extreme skepticism until more complex Earth System Models produce similar results,” Zeke Hausfather, a climate scientist and energy systems analyst, said to Gizmodo.
    According to ecologist Merritt Turetsky, the study’s assumption of ‘melting’ permafrost itself is a problem since permafrost does not melt but thaws. The fact that the researchers failed to differentiate between the two makes her believe that they do not know what permafrost actually is. Plus, the climate change models used in the study seems too simplistic. Complex models can more accurately show things like the circulation patterns of oceans, the water vapor in the atmosphere, and so on, which will contribute to warming.
    Recent climate change report has been debunked by a group of scientists.

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    • Dr. Robert Rohde - As the world warms, the ice is melting.


    Since 1994, the Earth has lost 28 trillion tonnes of ice. That's ~300 kg (~660 lbs) per person per day.: https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1353730046574403586



    Earth's ice imbalance: TC - Review article: Earth's ice imbalance


    • Global Ice Melt Matches Worst-Case Climate Scenario, Study Says


    The first global ice-loss survey using satellite data showed ice is disappearing faster in Antarctica and Greenland

    Melting on the ice sheets has accelerated so much over the past three decades that it’s now in line with the worst-case climate warming scenarios outlined by scientists.

    A total of 28 trillion metric tons of ice was lost between 1994 and 2017, according to a research paper published in The Cryosphere on Monday. The research team led by the University of Leeds in the U.K. was the first to carry out a global survey of global ice loss using satellite data.

    “The ice sheets are now following the worst-case climate warming scenarios set out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,” lead author Thomas Slater said in a statement. “Although every region we studied lost ice, losses from the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets have accelerated the most.”

    Ice melt from sheets and glaciers contributes to global warming and indirectly influences sea level rise, which in turn increases the risk of flooding in coastal communities. Earth’s northern and southern poles are warming more than twice as fast as the rest of the planet. In 2020, a year of record heat, Arctic sea ice extent hovered around the lowest ever for most of the year.

    The new research, which used information from the European Space Agency’s network of satellites, found that Earth lost 1.3 trillion tons of ice in 2017, accelerating from 0.8 trillion metric tons per year in the 1990s.

    The ice lost is equivalent to a 100-meter-thick sheet of ice able to cover the whole of the U.K. Another way to think of it is as 28 giant ice cubes —one for every trillion metric tons of ice lost—each taller than Mount Everest and measuring 10 kilometers in width, height and depth, the scientists said.

    “One of the key roles of Arctic sea ice is to reflect solar radiation back into space, which helps keep the Arctic cool,” said Isobel Lawrence, a researcher at the Leeds’ Centre for Polar Observation and Modelling. “As the sea ice shrinks, more solar energy is being absorbed by the oceans and atmosphere, causing the Arctic to warm faster than anywhere else on the planet.”

    The survey, which also analyzed 215,000 mountain glaciers around the planet, concluded that half of the losses were from ice on land, including from mountain glaciers and the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet. These losses have raised global sea levels by an estimated 35 millimeters.: Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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    yea and who made a million off of it////////??????

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    GM to go fully electric by 2035, carbon neutral by 2040

    General Motors (GM) plans to transition its entire light-duty vehicle fleet to electric vehicles (EVs) by 2035, bringing an end to its production of gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles. The automaker aims to go carbon neutral by 2040.

    A GM spokesperson told Fastmarkets that the company has set a goal to exclusively produce EVs in its light-duty fleet and discontinue producing internal combustion engine vehicles by 2035. Its light-duty vehicle fleet makes up 95% of its portfolio.

    Heavy-duty vehicles – the remaining 5% of its portfolio – will go electric by 2040, the spokesperson said.


    GM to go fully electric by 2035, carbon neutral by 2040 | Metal Bulletin.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    The start of a new year and 2021 might end up as one of the 5 warmest years recorded.

    Gavin Schmidt - Keeping with my tradition of the last few years, a prediction for 2021 global mean temperature based on the projected ENSO signal and long term trends.

    2021 is highly likely to be another top 5 year, despite current La Niña. 7th year in a row > 1ºC warmer than 1880-1899: https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/s...77883611779074

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    Basically a fiction author anounces the plot a year in advance...
    NASA Announces New Role of Senior Climate Advisor

    In an effort to ensure effective fulfillment of the Biden Administration’s climate science objectives for NASA, the agency has established a new position of senior climate advisor and selected Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, to serve in the role in an acting capacity until a permanent appointment is made.

    “This position will provide NASA leadership critical insights and recommendations for the agency’s full spectrum of science, technology, and infrastructure programs related to climate,” said acting NASA Administrator Steve Jurczyk. “This will enable the agency to more effectively align our efforts to help meet the administration’s goals for addressing climate change.”

    Climate adaptation and mitigation efforts cannot succeed without robust climate observations and research. With more than two dozen satellites and instruments observing key climate indicators, NASA is the premier agency in observing and understanding changes to the Earth. Furthermore, NASA enjoys broad public support and trust, lending credibility to its climate observations.

    “The complexities of climate processes still are not fully understood, and climate adaptation and mitigation efforts cannot succeed without robust climate observations, data, and research” said acting NASA Chief of Staff Bhavya Lal. “The appointment of Gavin Schmidt will help ensure that the Biden Administration has the crucial data to implement and track its plan toward the path to achieve net-zero emissions economy-wide by 2050, and a healthier, safer, more prosperous planet for our children.”

    As a representative of the agency’s strategic science objectives and accomplishments, the senior climate advisor will advocate for NASA climate investments in the context of broader government agendas and work closely with the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and the Office of Management and Budget.

    Specifically, the senior climate advisor will work to:

    *Promote and engage in climate-related investments in the Science Mission Directorate’s Earth Science Division.
    *Promote aeronautics and other technology initiatives focused on reducing carbon dioxide emissions and broad climate impacts.
    *Demonstrate and communicate the societal impacts and breadth of NASA investments related to climate.
    *Foster communication and coordination within and outside the science community at NASA.
    *Actively engage in amplifying the agency’s climate-related research and technological development.

    Schmidt has been GISS director since 2014. His main research interest is the use of climate modeling to understand past, present, and future climate change, and he has authored or co-authored more than 150 research papers in peer-reviewed literature. He is a fellow of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science and was the inaugural winner of the AGU Climate Communication Prize in 2011. He also was awarded NASA’s Outstanding Leadership Medal in 2017. He has a bachelor’s degree in mathematics from Oxford University and a doctorate in applied mathematics from University College London.: NASA Announces New Role of Senior Climate Advisor | NASA

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    • Copernicus – January 2021 tied with the 6th warmest January recorded.




    The global-mean temperature for January 2021 was above the climatological average for 1991-2020, but less extreme than for most months over the past five years. The month was:

    0.24°C warmer than the 1991-2020 average for January
    jointly with 2018, the sixth warmest January in this data record
    more than 0.3°C cooler than the warmest two Januaries, which were in 2016 and 2020
    also cooler than the Januaries of 2007, 2017 and 2019.

    Homepage | Copernicus


    • How to spot the tricks Big Oil uses to subvert action on climate change


    Three ways fossil fuel companies try to trick the public.

    Aware of the science but afraid of the impacts it might have on their returns, oil executives funded opposition research that “attacked consensus and exaggerated the uncertainties” on the science of climate change for many years, with the goal of undermining support for climate action.

    Their messaging has worked for so long because Big Oil has become really good at stretching the truth.

    So what are the talking points the oil industry uses to try to convince the public in these PR blitzes?

    People can recognize fossil fuel industry talking points by thinking about what they’re designed to do. In general, fossil fuel talking points are designed to do three things: make people believe that climate action will hurt them, and hurt their pocketbooks in particular; make people think we need fossil fuels; and try to convince us that climate change isn’t such a big deal.

    1) Right now, they’re really hammering the point that climate action is going to hurt jobs and the economy.

    It is true that if we phase out the fossil fuel industry there are going to be people, and indeed whole communities, that will need to find their livelihood in different industries. That is absolutely true.

    But two things about that: Number one, you can design policies so that those people don’t suffer, and number two, you can put incentives in place so that the new jobs are created in the geographical regions that are already depopulated and suffering economically, because the fossil fuel industry is not actually prosperous enough anymore to sustain a vibrant economy in those regions to begin with.

    So you can set up both: policies to ease the transition and policies to incentivize new investment so that the economy ends up more vibrant in these locations than it was before. Nothing is inevitable. The transition can be managed.

    2) The second thing oil and gas companies will do is try to make people believe that we need fossil fuels, and that oil and gas companies should stay in business.

    One I’ve seen a lot lately raises people’s national security fears with the message that we need to extract oil to maintain our “energy independence,” as if domestically produced fossil energy alone were powering America’s homes and businesses.

    The truth is that, according to the US Energy Information Agency, in 2019 (the latest year for which full data is available) the US imported 9.14 million barrels of petroleum a day — half a million more than we exported. It’s clean, safe energy sources like wind and solar that are sure to be domestically produced, not oil and methane gas.

    Another talking point designed to make us believe that we need fossil fuels is the message that we cannot halt global warming without “innovation.” This is a tricky one, because you’ll often hear energy researchers talk about the innovations we’ll want to develop in order to enable continued aviation and industrial shipping.

    But saying that new technologies will help us is different from saying that we need them, which implies that the world cannot stop using fossil fuels now. So politicians in the pockets of the oil and gas producers will proclaim that they support “innovation,” and fossil fuel companies will place ads touting the money they’re spending on research and development— but the money they actually do spend is orders of magnitude smaller than their PR budgets, not to mention their budgets for exploring and developing new fossil fuel reserves.

    3) The third thing Big Oil will try to do is to make people believe that climate change is not such a big deal. Either they call people trying to communicate the dangers of global warming “alarmists” or they simply don’t talk about the climate crisis at all.

    In their campaign of silence they’re aided by the vast majority of the broadcast news media, which mostly proceeds as if the crisis didn’t exist and won’t even mention the words “climate change” when they report on floods, fires, and hurricanes in which there are scientifically established links to global warming.

    Summary: Okay, so we now have the three points the fossil fuel industry often uses: Convince people climate action will hurt their pocketbooks, suggest that we need fossil fuels, and downplay the climate emergency. How do climate scientists, activists, and the media counter that narrative?

    We’ve got to keep climate change in the foreground of people’s attention.: Climate change crisis: How oil and gas companies try to trick the public - Vox

    Just for fun.


    • Part of #2 - talking point designed to make us believe that we need fossil fuels is the message that we cannot halt global warming without “innovation.”



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    It won't be a crisis while you're alive.

    Which isn't saying very long, is it?

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    If climate change was Jim Jones, repeater would be guzzling that koolaid like a fucking star.

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