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    NOAA - Year-to-date Temperature: January–November 2020

    The January–November 2020 global temperature was the second highest on record at 1.00°C (1.80°F) above average and only 0.01°C (0.02°F) shy of tying the record set in 2016.



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    Some preliminary 2020 year end numbers are out. Not all of December included.

    Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)

    1st. 2020 (+0.47°C), 2nd. 2016 (+0.45°C), 3rd. 2019 (+0.43°C), 4th. 2015 (+0.42°C), 5th. 2017 (+0.38°C)



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    Lets just leave this here.


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    So we're back to seeing whether or not you can do even basic maths:

    As estimated by NAS, once the price of CO2 extraction dips below $100-150 per ton of carbon, the air-captured commodity will be economically competitive with traditionally-sourced oil.
    A reminder that CO2 production is currently (pandemic excluded for obvious reasons) 33,000,000,000 tonnes per annum.

    So how much is this going to cost even at $100 per tonne and where are you going to find the money? Tax the fossil fuel companies perhaps?

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    The start of a new year and 2021 might end up as one of the 5 warmest years recorded.


    • Gavin Schmidt - Keeping with my tradition of the last few years, a prediction for 2021 global mean temperature based on the projected ENSO signal and long term trends.


    2021 is highly likely to be another top 5 year, despite current La Niña. 7th year in a row > 1ºC warmer than 1880-1899: https://twitter.com/ClimateOfGavin/s...77883611779074





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    Basically a fiction author anounces the plot a year in advance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So we're back to seeing whether or not you can do even basic maths:



    A reminder that CO2 production is currently (pandemic excluded for obvious reasons) 33,000,000,000 tonnes per annum.

    So how much is this going to cost even at $100 per tonne and where are you going to find the money? Tax the fossil fuel companies perhaps?

    I know your not really that bright but do you really think the carbon capture techniques are really meant to attempt capturing all of the co2 per annum.

    Also if read the entire article you would see $50 per ton to be possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Lets just leave this here.

    chico, this is a serious topic that you have zero understanding of. Stop posting complete and utter nonsense.
    ”Deep, complicated and nuanced” you are not. Keep posting in dumb threads, where your expert opinion has a value. However minimal that may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I know your not really that bright but do you really think the carbon capture techniques are really meant to attempt capturing all of the co2 per annum.

    Also if read the entire article you would see $50 per ton to be possible.
    Don't you think it would be easier just to reduce the main source of CO2 you utter fucking moron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Don't you think it would be easier just to reduce the main source of CO2 you utter fucking moron?
    Somewhere along the line you missed where climate scientists are now coming to realize that just eliminating fossil fuels will not meet the co2 reduction needed to stop global warning.

    You also don’t have even a small grasp on the magnitude of everything involved in eliminating fossil fuels.

    But do carry on displaying your lack of grasp on reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Somewhere along the line you missed where climate scientists are now coming to realize that just eliminating fossil fuels will not meet the co2 reduction needed to stop global warning.

    You also don’t have even a small grasp on the magnitude of everything involved in eliminating fossil fuels.

    But do carry on displaying your lack of grasp on reality.
    The IPCC say we need to cut 45% of emissions by 2030.

    Do you remember how much of those emissions come from fossil fuels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    chico, this is a serious topic
    I take it you know what SpaceX is about ye? and the people behind it are the very same ones going on about going green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The IPCC say we need to cut 45% of emissions by 2030.

    Do you remember how much of those emissions come from fossil fuels?

    What’s your point?

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    • Tomorrow is the 4th and year end numbers should start to be released, but it was a long holiday weekend so it could run a day late.


    The preview…….

    Copernicus: 2nd

    Little extra until then.

    • Methane is more dangerous than carbon dioxide


    This month witnessed the launch of the first-ever “Gas Index”, which ranks American metropolitan areas on the leakiness of the gas supply chains that service their cities. This new index — which Burlington, Vt., ranks in the middle of — takes into account methane leakage across the full life cycle of fossil gas, from oil and gas production areas, to gas transmission pipelines and distribution within cities.

    This is a critical contribution to the climate action agenda. Any serious effort to cool the planet requires getting off fossil gas, about 95 percent of which is methane. Not only is methane responsible for air pollution that causes premature deaths and significant respiratory problems, it’s much more powerful than carbon dioxide in its global warming effects. After methane leaks, it’s over 80 times more potent than carbon dioxide in its ability to warm the planet.

    That’s why the timing of the Gas Index is important. As President-elect Joe Biden’s administration plans to reenter the United States into the Paris Climate Agreement, this index will help his administration identify where to start in tackling the growing methane problem in America, reducing greenhouse gas emissions and saving lives.: Methane is more dangerous than carbon dioxide — the gas index can help | TheHill - The U.S. Natural Gas System Has a Serious Problem: The Gas Leaks.


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    According to the IEA, we probably need to capture between 10% and 20% of the roughly 35 billion metric tons of carbon we produce annually if we want to prevent the worst effects of climate change.
    Fuck the IEA, it promotes Fossil Fuels.

    You have to have crude oil reserves to be a member, dickhead.

    It's fairly evident that the fossil fuel industry wants gobs of government money to build these needless white elephants while continuing to spew the very CO2 that's causing the problem in the first place.

    It's like giving a patient a blood transfusion while you are draining his blood.

    But then again, they are mainly parasites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    • Tomorrow is the 4th and year end numbers should start to be released, but it was a long holiday weekend so it could run a day late.


    The preview…….

    Copernicus: 2nd
    Still waiting.

    • Zeke Hausfather - Its been quite a wild ride over the past few months figuring out where annual 2020 temps will end up in ERA5:


    Sep (warm): Looks likely to be warmest year
    Oct (cold): Likely 2nd warmest
    Nov (very warm): Very likely warmest
    Dec (very cold): Probably 2nd? But damn close to a tie: https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1346571992460263424


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    • Copernicus - Surface air temperature for December 2020 (6th warmest December)






    The global-mean temperature for December 2020 was above average, but less extreme than has been the case for all other months in the past two years. December 2020 was:

    0.43°C warmer than the 1981-2010 average for December
    the sixth warmest December in this data record
    about 0.3°C cooler than the warmest Decembers, which were in 2015 and 2019
    cooler also than the Decembers of 2016, 2017 and 2018.


    • Copernicus 2020 - Year End was the 2nd warmest recorded



    The calendar-year average for 2020 was on a par with that for 2016, with 2020 cooler than 2016 by less than 0.01°C, well below the spread among multiple datasets.

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    NOAA’s, NASA’s and Berkeley Earth’s 2020 year end numbers will be released later this morning.

    Until then.


    • JMA – 2020 was the warmest year recorded.



    Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)

    1st. 2020 (+0.47°C), 2nd. 2016 (+0.45°C), 3rd. 2019 (+0.43°C), 4th. 2015 (+0.42°C), 5th. 2017 (+0.38°C)

    気象庁 Japan Meteorological Agency








    • Wind Power Overtakes Coal In Texas For The First Time Ever


    For decades, the Lone Star State has been essentially synonymous with fossil fuels. While shale oil and gas have long reigned supreme in Texas, coal has also long been a prominent part of the state’s energy mix, currently clocking in at about an 18% share. But not for long. The winds of change are blowing through Texas. In 2020, for the first time ever, wind power overtook coal in the state’s overall energy mix, “the latest sign of renewable energy’s rising prominence in America’s fossil fuel heartland” according to reporting by the Financial Times this week.: Wind Power Overtakes Coal In Texas For The First Time Ever | OilPrice.com
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    NASA – 2020

    More later. I’ve been busy.


    A Look Back: How Heat Shaped 2020


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    I see repeater hasn't wittered here in a while, he must be at home still trying to get his Parler account to work.

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    • NASA GISS - 2020 was the hottest year in the global temperature record, going back 140 years. 2020 statistically tied with the previous record holder, 2016 - a year when El Niño, a cyclical climate pattern, gave temperatures an above average boost.: https://twitter.com/NASAGISS/status/1349749596646420480





    ENSO Temps 2020 - La Nina, El Nino and Neutral years all trending warmer…….





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    Little extra……

    • Banks, insurers move to shape climate debate as Washington crackdown looms


    Some of the country's biggest banking and insurance trade groups are poised to pledge trillions of dollars in financing to fight climate change in a move that could give them greater clout in the debate as Democrats step up scrutiny of Wall Street's role in global warming.

    The organizations described their "clear mandate" on climate finance in an unreleased and yet-to-be finalized report that they've been assembling since Joe Biden secured the presidency. The document, obtained by POLITICO, endorses the goals of the Paris climate agreement, more standardized disclosure of climate risks and the establishment of robust pricing of carbon through federally regulated markets.

    The associations are among some of the most influential in financial policy, including the Institute of International Finance, the American Bankers Association, the Bank Policy Institute and the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association. They're taking a more vocal approach on climate change with the Biden administration planning to make the issue a top priority after four years of retreat under President Donald Trump.

    "Our customers, investors, employees and stakeholders — as well as voters and society at large — want our industry to respond to climate change," the associations said in the preliminary version of the report. "It is also increasingly clear that the industry must identify, measure and disclose the risks associated with climate change, both from our own operations as well as exposures via our clients."

    The companies "have a clear mandate to intermediate trillions of dollars to new industries, cutting-edge technologies and resilient infrastructure, building on our long-standing commitments to sustainable finance," the report says.

    The broad collaboration among the key industry groups — including many that have largely stayed quiet about the threat of global warming — reflects the dramatic turnabout in the climate finance discussion in Washington since Trump's defeat and the Democrats' stunning Senate victories that gave them control of Congress.: Banks, insurers move to shape climate debate as Washington crackdown looms - POLITICO - https://stopthemoneypipeline.com/

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