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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    If you actually read the articles you would see different. Several of the articles I posted show that carbon capture is not only imperative in stopping climate change change but can be a profitable endeavor. But do continue on with your selective quoting.
    EVERY article you have posted says carbon capture is expensive. You have not come up with one suggestion for paying for it, probably because it means a Tax, and being a republican retard you hate taxes.

    Here's a better suggestion: Switch to renewables and tax the fossil fuel sector to pay for it (instead of giving them subsidies!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    EVERY article you have posted says carbon capture is expensive. You have not come up with one suggestion for paying for it, probably because it means a Tax, and being a republican retard you hate taxes.

    Here's a better suggestion: Switch to renewables and tax the fossil fuel sector to pay for it (instead of giving them subsidies!).

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    Or take those subsidies and pay for carbon capture as we gradually switch to sustainable energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Or take those subsidies and pay for carbon capture as we gradually switch to sustainable energy.
    How about take those subsidies, pay for development of renewables and phase out fossil fuels?

    Then you've got fuck all carbon you need to capture.


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    Copernicus - Surface air temperature for November 2020

    Globally, November 2020 was the warmest November on record, by a clear margin.




    Global-mean temperatures were substantially above average in November 2020. The month was:

    • 0.77°C warmer than the 1981-2010 average for November
    • the warmest November in this data record by a clear margin
    • 0.13°C warmer than the previous warmest Novembers, which were in 2016 and 2019.
    • November 2020 was also the joint fourth most extreme month of any in terms of global warmth compared with the climatogical average for the month in question. Its temperature anomaly was on a par with that of January 2020. Only February and March 2016 and February 2020 were more extreme, with temperatures respectively 0.88°C, 0.82°C and 0.80°C above average.: Homepage | Copernicus




    • Zeke Hausfather - After a relatively cold Oct, global temps shot back up in Nov, setting a new record by a fair margin. Nov 2020 was around 1C warmer than temps in the late 1970s in ERA5 and around 1.4C warmer than in the late 1800s.


    2020 is once again odds-on favorite to be the warmest on record: https://twitter.com/hausfath/status/1335992103818592257


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    Robert Rohde - Some people say that the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the rest of the Earth.

    But that's not true.

    Over the last 30 years, the Arctic has actually warmed more than 4 times as fast as the global average.: https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1336652331757301761



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    I think repeater is stuck in a loop, can someone hit CTRL-ALT-DEL on the dozy old c u n t?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think repeater is stuck in a loop
    He is a brainwashed moron and he is basically like a dog chasing its own tail.

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    This was easily the warmest November on record

    November 2020 had something in common with January 2020, May 2020, and September 2020.

    Globally, they were all the warmest respective months in the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service records, which maintains a data set going back to 1979. (In fact, all the months so far this year were some of the warmest such months ever recorded). The Copernicus data is one of many global temperature records, which are in impressive agreement, showing Earth's accelerating rise in surface temperatures. Other records, like NASA's, go back to the 1880s.

    The Copernicus Climate Change Service reported on Monday that November was the warmest by a "clear margin." Overall, the autumn month was nearly 0.8 degrees Celsius, or some 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit, warmer than the 1981-2010 average. It beat the previous warmest Novembers (in 2016 and 2019) by over 0.1 C, which is quite a margin for global temperatures, as they encompass weather observations averaged from all over the planet.

    "It's a clear sign the world is warming when you keep setting new records," said Zeke Hausfather, a climate scientist and the director of climate and energy at the Breakthrough Institute, an environmental research center. Hausfather had no role in the Copernicus temperature report.

    The repeatedly warm months in 2020 are all the more impressive, noted Hausfather, due to the presence of a natural weather pattern called La Niña. During La Niña, a large swath of the surface waters in the equatorial Pacific Ocean cool, as cold waters rise to the surface. This has an overall planetary cooling effect. But still, today's human warming impact is enough to overwhelm this trend.

    "It's all the more remarkable because it's happening on the backdrop of a moderately strong La Niña event," said Hausfather.

    In November, temperatures across most of the Arctic, northern Europe, and Siberia were much warmer than average. It was also warmer than usual over much of the U.S., Australia, and large parts of South America and Africa.

    The planet is reacting to the highest atmospheric levels of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in at least 800,000 years, but more likely millions of years. Yes, both CO2 levels in the atmosphere and global temperatures fluctuate naturally, but what's happening now isn't natural. After past ice ages, the planet hasn't warmed nearly this fast. As NASA notes, based on past climate records (such as from deep ice cores or tree rings):

    "This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming. Carbon dioxide from human activity is increasing more than 250 times faster than it did from natural sources after the last Ice Age."

    The consequences of this warming are many:

    Wildfires are surging in the U.S.

    Arctic sea ice is in rapid decline.

    Major Antarctic ice sheets have destabilized.

    The ocean is absorbing unfathomable amounts of heat.

    Heat waves are becoming longer and more frequent, while smashing records.

    Storms are intensifying, leading to more floods.

    The Copernicus Climate Change Service reports the warming from January through November is on par with 2016, the warmest year on record. This means 2020 will likely end up being one of the warmest years on record, if not the warmest. Importantly, humanity still has great sway over the climate system, and can still curb carbon emissions to avoid the ever-worsening consequences of a heating planet.

    For now, however, the records keep breaking.

    "These records are consistent with the long-term warming trend of the global climate," Carlo Buontempo, director of the Copernicus Climate Change Service, said in a statement. "All policy-makers who prioritize mitigating climate risks should see these records as alarm bells and consider more seriously than ever how to best comply with the international commitments set out in the 2015 Paris Agreement.": This was easily the warmest November on record - Science - https://twitter.com/mikarantane/stat...78969245274112

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    NASA – November 2020 was the warmest November recorded



    More later: Data.GISS: Data and Images


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    So $800 million to capture 1.5MM tonnes.

    And the global emissions from fossil fuels are 33,000MM tonnes.

    Do you want me to do the maths for you or do you have a calculator handy?

    * Actually it's 93% of 33,000MM tonnes, but that was the 2018 figure so probably near 31,000MM.

    Round it down to 30,000MM, it probably won't make a massive difference to your stupidity.

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    Navajo Generating Station Demolished/Navaho Generation Station, Arizona, is demolished. Largest Coal plant in the US west.



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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    NASA – November 2020 was the warmest November recorded

    More later: Data.GISS: Data and Images
    But first,…..JMA’s November 2020 number.




    Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)

    1st. 2015 (+0.54°C), 2nd. 2020 (+0.45°C), 3rd. 2019 (+0.40°C), 4th. 2018,2013 (+0.31°C)

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    Still waiting for your cost estimate of 30 Gigatonnes of CO2 Carbon Capture.

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    Still waiting for your cost estimate of 30 Gigatonnes of CO2 Carbon Capture.

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    A hint on where 2020 will end up (GISTEMP data) with one month to go…….



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Still waiting for your cost estimate of 30 Gigatonnes of CO2 Carbon Capture.
    Sure thing right after you give a time and cost estimate of replacing everything that uses fossil fuel with non fossil fuel equivalents.

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    Fed joins global network to fight climate change through financial system

    The Federal Reserve Board announced Tuesday that it has joined an international network of central banks and regulators devoted to fighting climate change through the global financial system.

    The Fed is now a member of the Network of Central Banks and Supervisors for Greening the Financial System (NGFS), the bank announced Tuesday. The Fed board approved the decision to join the NGFS by a 6-0 vote on Dec. 7.

    "As we develop our understanding of how best to assess the impact of climate change on the financial system, we look forward to continuing and deepening our discussions with our NGFS colleagues from around the world," said Fed Chairman Jerome Powell, a Republican first appointed to the Fed by former President Obama and elevated to chairman by President Trump.

    The Fed’s formal admission to the NGFS was widely anticipated after Powell and other Fed officials said the bank was seeking to join the group. Fed officials began participating in NGFS conferences and activities more than a year ago but had not formally joined the network.

    Financial sector critics and environmentalists have long called on banks and regulators to take a more aggressive role in fighting climate change and forcing the financial sector to reckon with the risks it can pose to their operations.

    U.S. banks, financial policymakers and regulators had largely waved off those calls until 2020, which some critics say is an attempt to get ahead of stringent potential regulations from the incoming Biden administration. Republicans and some Trump-appointed regulators have been fiercely opposed to those efforts and have warned the Fed and banks not to blacklist companies involved in the oil and gas industry.

    A group of 47 Republican lawmakers urged the Fed in a letter last week not to test banks on their ability to withstand climate-related risks and not adopt NGFS recommendations that could be harmful to U.S. oil and gas producers.

    The Office of the Comptroller of the Currency also proposed a rule that would effectively ban banks from turning away customers based on their industry alone, a response to pledges from several major banks to stop financing oil and gas drilling and firearms manufacturers.: Fed joins global network to fight climate change through financial system | TheHill

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Sure thing right after you give a time and cost estimate of replacing everything that uses fossil fuel with non fossil fuel equivalents.
    It pays for itself you retarded old fool. There's your answer.

    Now where's mine or is it too difficult for you to work out?

    Replacing the costliest 500 GW of coal with solar PV and onshore wind next year would cut power system costs by up to USD 23 billion every year and reduce annual emissions by around 1.8 gigatons (Gt) of carbon dioxide (CO2), equivalent to 5% of total global CO2 emissions in 2019.
    Renewables Increasingly Beat Even Cheapest Coal Competitors on Cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It pays for itself you retarded old fool. There's your answer.

    Now where's mine or is it too difficult for you to work out?



    Renewables Increasingly Beat Even Cheapest Coal Competitors on Cost

    Ok but what about cars,trucks,trains,planes these all use fossil fuels how long and what costs to replace all of these with workable alternatives?

    Actually I have no interest in working anything out for you. If you were to actually read the information I put up you would see that it is becoming evident eliminating fossil fuels is not enough existing carbon will have to be removed to meet the goal to reverse climate change.

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