Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you saying the inactive sun has not caused the outer atmosphere to cool bringing on a cold winter.

The outer atmosphere that you are referring to more accurately the thermosphere has been cooling for years it is nothing new and it does not cause the surface temperature of the earth to go down you moron. This is how far up it is....



The International space station orbits in it. It is incredibly hot there in fact it can be almost 1700 degree Celsius or 3100 degrees fahrenheit.

Basically it is only cooling a few degrees.

So please explain to me how an upper reaches of the atmosphere as far as 120-600km from the surface of the earth where the temperature is already incredibly hot is going to cause us to have a cold winter?

You are an idiot.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you saying the inactive sun has not caused the outer atmosphere to cool bringing on a cold winter. Wake up buckwheat.

Yes the sun has been cooling for years but hear he is talking of unusual inactivity bringing on a cold winter, with cooling probably lasting for a few years.

You didn't read a word of post 5020 did you, you twerp.

It's abundantly clear that someone of your advancing years, with declining mental faculty, is incapable of learning anything.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It's abundantly clear that someone of your advancing years, with declining mental faculty, is incapable of learning anything.

Hear Hear.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The outer atmosphere that you are referring to more accurately the thermosphere has been cooling for years it is nothing new and it does not cause the surface temperature of the earth to go down you moron. This is how far up it is....



The International space station orbits in it. It is incredibly hot there in fact it can be almost 1700 degree Celsius or 3100 degrees fahrenheit.

Basically it is only cooling a few degrees.

So please explain to me how an upper reaches of the atmosphere as far as 120-600km from the surface of the earth where the temperature is already incredibly hot is going to cause us to have a cold winter?

You are an idiot.

Obviously there are nasa scientists who disagree with you, but of course you being a computer game developer will surely have a better handle on there field of science. As for me, I will go with the scientist.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Obviously there are nasa scientists who disagree with you

No they do not disagree with me utter buffoon. The NASA scientist had his comment taken out of context and was reposted in the trash article you posted. That is what this article explained you utter moron...

Oh God, why hath thou forsaken us. Why hath thou given climate change deniers more reason to come out with their crap theories.

Yes, it’s that time of year again where media outlets suggest a “mini ice age” is on the way because of the Sun, and deniers jump on the stories as proof that humans are not driving climate change.

We’ve got stories today proclaiming a “dead Sun” is about to cause a mini ice age, predicted by NASA, and others heralding the arrival of “a uniquely grim mini ice age”. I’m not going to link to them.

In turn, a quick search on Twitter shows us some mind-numbingly infuriating comments from the usual crowd. “Here we go folks!” says one. “No [sic] they are saying a mini Ice Age is coming. These are from the same folks that predicted huge ice melts and hot temperatures.”

“What? The sun has an effect on the earths temperature? Who duh thunk?” says another.

Again, I’m not linking. Because reasons.

So where is this all coming from? Well, it looks like there are a couple of misunderstandings here. The first is the fact that we are currently moving towards solar minimum – the period in the Sun’s 11-year cycle when its activity reaches its lowest point.

Note, this cycle is very regular. It is not the driver of climate change on Earth. Here is some good information about why that is true.

Then, the outlets seem to have picked up some comments from the website SpaceWeatherArchive.com back in September. “We see a cooling trend,” the website quoted Martin Mlynczak of NASA's Langley Research Center as saying. "High above Earth's surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold."

Mlynczak’s comments here are clearly not referring to climate change. They’re talking about Earth’s atmosphere, specifically a region called the thermosphere. During decreased solar activity, the thermosphere shrinks – which, while reducing the amount of atmospheric drag on satellites, also prolongs the orbit of space junk.

The Sun simply does not have that large an effect on our climate compared to human activity. There is no mini ice age on the way. Stories like these that suggest otherwise, and the ensuing comments, make me want to tear my eyes out. Happy Friday all.

https://www.iflscience.com/space/no-...-mini-ice-age/

Apparently you have major reading comprehension problems.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

I have been talking about a child winter

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You clearly are thick as concrete, about as sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball. All along I have been talking about a cold winter on the way and possibly the trend for a few years and you just keep ranting on about climate change. It is a total waste of my time trying to make as simple as possible for you, good bye.

Why don't you try READING.

This time, the TOPIC THREAD.

You senile old fool.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You senile old fool.

It is pointless. What is good is that these geriatrics are dying off rapidly as a voting base. Soon we will not have to bother with the likes of dogma slaves like REPEATER666

GENEVA, Nov 22 (Reuters) - The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere hit a new record last year with emissions showing no sign of slowing down, the U.N. World Meteorological Organization said on Thursday.


The annual Greenhouse Gas Bulletin dashed hopes for a slowdown in emissions of CO2 - the byproduct of burning fossil fuels that scientists say is the main cause of the greenhouse effect causing global warming.

"The science is clear. Without rapid cuts in CO2 and other greenhouse gases, climate change will have increasingly destructive and irreversible impacts on life on Earth. The window of opportunity for action is almost closed," WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas said in a statement.

The report found CO2 levels of 405.5 parts per million in 2017, up from 403.3 ppm in 2016.

The rate of increase is in line with the average growth rate over the last decade, which was the fastest rate for 55 million years, the WMO said. Carbon dioxide levels have risen 46 percent since the pre-industrial era, around 1750.

"The most alarming thing is that ... half of the increase from pre-industrial times comes within the last 30 years," said Oksana Tarasova, head of WMO's atmospheric environment research.

The rise was expected to be much lower in 2017, because the previous year saw "El Nino" weather conditions, which are normally followed by a big slowdown in the growth of CO2 concentrations.

U.N. climate talks in Poland next month are meant to agree a rule book for the 2015 Paris agreement on climate change, which set a sweeping goal of ending the fossil fuel era this century.

U.N. human rights chief Michelle Bachelet has sent a letter to all states, telling them they have legal obligations under international human rights law to prevent climate change and try to mitigate its effects.

The United States is the only country to have announced its intention to withdraw from the Paris accord, and President Donald Trump has cast doubt on the science underpinning it.

"Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS - Whatever happened to Global Warming?", Trump tweeted on Wednesday.

WMO chief scientist Pavel Kabat said unusually cold weather was consistent with climate change.

"On the longer timescale we are not that much worried about the current political disturbance," he said.

"Global warming is unequivocal," added WMO Deputy Secretary-General Elena Manaenkova. "Climate change is scientifically proven." (Reporting by Tom Miles; editing by Stephanie Nebehay and Robin Pomeroy)

Global carbon dioxide levels hit a new record in 2017, U.N. ...

Sir David Attenborough: Climate change is 'our greatest threat in thousands of years'

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...Jo79SzR7srQiYM

But Trump is smarter than Sir David :/

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Sir David Attenborough: Climate change is 'our greatest threat in thousands of years'


https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...Jo79SzR7srQiYM

But Trump is smarter than Sir David :/

Wondering whether all his big friends and big foes are against or for? But he decides nevertheless?
Or will he change his decision within 2 hours on the board AF1?

Not about to read 5000 posts to catch up, but so what if Climate Change is real? Doesn't have to be Man caused. My guess would be we're contributing, probably somewhere between the extremist poles, but it's been a cyclical phenomenon since the Earth was formed, created, invented or whatever.

Well you don't have to guess. Because science.



And the 'so what' is the catastrophic effects it will have on life on earth.

Originally Posted by jabir

Not about to read 5000 posts to catch up, but so what if Climate Change is real? Doesn't have to be Man caused. My guess would be we're contributing, probably somewhere between the extremist poles, but it's been a cyclical phenomenon since the Earth was formed, created, invented or whatever.

Don't be a dick. All climate change is man made. It has to be. When the IPCC (by Rockefeller man Maurice Strong) was set up the founding block was that all research had to start from the point that it was all man made Co2 (accepted science) and go from there. Not allowed to look at if that was true because if so, no IPCC accreditation. So it is clearly all true and very real right from the offski. Of course, spookily, it did take the spotlight off of big oils mass pollution of the water tables, land and sea but that's purely a coincidence.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Why do you need people to do your homework for you? Do you not have the ability to use google? Most European nations have cut their carbon output by large margins the US on the other hand lags behind. The more pointed issue it why do you even care since you to not believe in man made climate change. An odd fellow you is.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...o2cldh7cda2knw

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...HmA8YpwguPnU25

Post you articles or links properly or do not bother responding at all. I am not clicking on generic links. Waste of time you old coffin dodger.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Post you articles or links properly or do not bother responding at all. I am not clicking on generic links. Waste of time you old coffin dodger.

Here you go, Scaredy Kat - from RPeter's link.



Out of interest though, what are you doing about your "man made climate change" reduction mission? Pretending to buy a Tesla? Using single use disposable plates to eat off?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Post you articles or links properly or do not bother responding at all. I am not clicking on generic links. Waste of time you old coffin dodger.

Up to you if you want to keep the blinders on, the links take you directly to the articles.

Originally Posted by bsnub

The only person with blinders on is you. I mean you quote articles from breitbart and Herman Cains website for fucks sake. You are an idiot.

Once again in this case your sources are trash. The chart above is produced by BP oil and the website you posted is the American Enterprise Institute a far right "think tank" funded by wait for it...... ExxonMobile and big oil.





https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ameri...ise-institute/

So basically it like almost all of the things you post is utter shit and right wing propaganda.

Are you saying the information is false, or up to your usual tricks of trying to dispute the facts by trying to trash the source. Please, is the information false?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Are you saying the information is false

I am saying the articles and sources are not credible and do not explain why CO2 emissions have declined in the US. The source you quoted is manipulating information and lemmings like yourself run off with it like it is some holy nugget. It is not. The only reason why CO2 has been declining is because natural gas is cheaper than fracking. If fracking suddenly can be profitable again then the CO2 output would increase exponentially literally overnight.

The point is that under your orange god the US is doing nothing to reduce it. Other countries are and having excellent results. That is the entire point I was making you dimwit.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

up to your usual tricks of trying to dispute the facts by trying to trash the source.

Sources are of the upmost importance especially when your side is engaged in outright lies and propaganda many of your sources like these are complete trash.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am saying the articles and sources are not credible and do not explain why CO2 emissions have declined in the US. The source you quoted is manipulating information and lemmings like yourself run off with it like it is some holy nugget. It is not. The only reason why CO2 has been declining is because natural gas is cheaper than fracking. If fracking suddenly can be profitable again then the CO2 output would increase exponentially literally overnight.

The point is that under your orange god the US is doing nothing to reduce it. Other countries are and having excellent results. That is the entire point I was making you dimwit.



Sources are of the upmost importance especially when your side is engaged in outright lies and propaganda many of your sources like these are complete trash.

If you had read even the first paragraph of my first linked article you would have seen this little nugget:

• 7/12/2018

Global Warming: Once more, science provides bad news for global warming alarmists. U.S. CO2 levels again declined during 2017, despite overall global output again rising. Credit U.S. fracking and the natural gas boom. But don't worry: the hysteria won't end.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

If you had read even the first paragraph of my first linked article

First off it is not an "article" it is an opinion piece. That is the first and most important point. Secondly it is written by an unnamed source. With regards to your site...

Investors Business Daily strays from the consensus of science in regards to climate change and they have made outrageous and false claims, such as Stephen Hawking would be dead if he lived under England’s Government health care system. This is a false propaganda statement as Stephen Hawking is a citizen of the UK and lives there. Hawking claims the British Healthcare system saved his life and kept him alive to old age.

It is a trash site and propaganda. Once again you swallow it hook line and sinker.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inves...usiness-daily/

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Global Warming: Once more, science provides bad news for global warming alarmists. U.S. CO2 levels again declined during 2017, despite overall global output again rising. Credit U.S. fracking and the natural gas boom. But don't worry: the hysteria won't end.

Anyone with an IQ above 100 can see that this statement is complete bullshit.