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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Such nastiness, such hate!
    Far from it. He is showing frustration for the fact that that such utter stupidity exists. Most liberals have a unique kinship in this regard. Of course you wouldn't understand that. Now back to infowars lemming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Such nastiness, such hate!
    Far from it. He is showing frustration for the fact that that such utter stupidity exists. Most liberals have a unique kinship in this regard. Of course you wouldn't understand that. Now back to infowars lemming.
    This works both ways, I posted an article which included that when Eric The Red was expelled from Iceland he went to green land in the only boats they had at the time,small wooden boats, this would be an impossible task today to much ice in the waters on the southern part of Greenland. Does this not show the North Atlantic must have been much warmer than today. How does this not show the unwillingness of you alarmists to admit maybe you have gotten something's wrong, very frustrating but I will not stoop to name calling to vent my frustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    This works both ways
    No it really doesn't. Your stupidity is boundless. It has been pointed out countless times by numerous forum members many who rarely post in speakers corner.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I posted an article which included that when Eric The Red was expelled from Iceland he went to green land
    The effects of the mid evil warming period have been explained here ad nauseum on this thread. I just posted a refresher for you short bus readers apparently you skipped over it as usual.

    The mid evil warming period was not a global event simply a regional warming of a very small part of the world. Go back and read my post you may learn something for once. But of course you won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    This works both ways
    No it really doesn't. Your stupidity is boundless. It has been pointed out countless times by numerous forum members many who rarely post in speakers corner.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    I posted an article which included that when Eric The Red was expelled from Iceland he went to green land
    The effects of the mid evil warming period have been explained here ad nauseum on this thread. I just posted a refresher for you short bus readers apparently you skipped over it as usual.

    The mid evil warming period was not a global event simply a regional warming of a very small part of the world. Go back and read my post you may learn something for once. But of course you won't.


    I have said in the past,as you are nothing more than a myopic alarmist,I take little stack in your posts.
    The the medieval warming lasted how long?

    Posting drunk again? (Mid evil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
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    Strange isn't it that temperature changes first then followed by levels of Co2 as in cause and effect.
    Yes, it's very strange.

    How did you draw this absurd conclusion?
    From numerous graphs. So we can now conclude that temperature change is the cause of CO2 levels increasing and not the other way round. If you want to carry on being brainwashed by your cult and donating your money to it, your choice.
    Can you post a single graph that proves your assertion that higher temperatures are followed by higher levels of CO2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
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    Thank you for the link to CNN talking about Greenland as it supports my belief that changes in the climate are as much a result of cycles as they are man made.
    Science is not about Belief, it's about evidence.

    People used to "believe" the earth was flat and the moon was made of cheese.

    And they were stupid and ignorant fuckers like you.
    Such nastiness, such hate!

    Are you a Russian spy!
    Such drivel. Why don't you go and read some more of your Infowars fairy stories about shape shifting lizard aliens? I'm sure it will make you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Such nastiness, such hate!
    Far from it. He is showing frustration for the fact that that such utter stupidity exists. Most liberals have a unique kinship in this regard. Of course you wouldn't understand that. Now back to infowars lemming.
    This works both ways, I posted an article which included that when Eric The Red was expelled from Iceland he went to green land in the only boats they had at the time,small wooden boats, this would be an impossible task today to much ice in the waters on the southern part of Greenland. Does this not show the North Atlantic must have been much warmer than today. How does this not show the unwillingness of you alarmists to admit maybe you have gotten something's wrong, very frustrating but I will not stoop to name calling to vent my frustration.
    I'll post these again since you might have missed them.






    Now, unless you are colour blind, you'll notice that the so-called Medieval Warm Period was in fact simply an anomaly, with higher temperatures in very localised areas but much lower temperatures elsewhere.

    Furthermore, the average of this so-called Warm Period was in fact significantly lower than today.

    So which bit of this rather fucking obvious science don't you understand?

    If your premise is that there may have been other factors than CO2 that caused this localised phenomenon, then that is stating the fucking obvious.

    Climate Change science makes allowances for other factors that affect temperature.

    The one abiding piece of science that is beyond doubt to anyone except an ostrich is that increasing CO2, as well as other greenhouse gases, is the major factor in temperature rise. Scientists have been measuring this and other factors, with increasingly accurate results, since the last century.

    Do ask questions if you are struggling to keep up.

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    And here's something else to worry about.
    Emissions of the powerful greenhouse gas methane have surged in the past decade, threatening to thwart global attempts to combat climate change.

    Scientists have been surprised by the surge, which began just over 10 years ago in 2007 and then was boosted even further in 2014 and 2015. Concentrations of methane in the atmosphere over those two years alone rose by more than 20 parts per billion, bringing the total to 1,830ppb.

    This is a cause for alarm among global warming scientists because emissions of the gas warm the planet by more than 20 times as much as similar volumes of carbon dioxide.

    In the meantime, emissions of carbon dioxide – the main component of manmade greenhouse gases in the atmosphere – have been levelling off. The new research, published in the peer-review journal Environmental Research Letters, suggests that the world’s attempts to control greenhouse gases have failed to take account of the startling rises in methane.


    What is causing the rapid rise in methane emissions?
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    The authors of the 2016 Global Methane Budget report found that in the early years of this century, concentrations of methane rose by only about 0.5ppb each year, compared with 10ppb in 2014 and 2015.

    The scientists speculate that agriculture may be the main source of the additional methane that has been recorded. However, they cannot be sure of all the sources, owing to a lack of monitoring.

    At least a third of methane comes from the exploitation of fossil fuels, including fracking and oil drilling and some coal mining, where methane is viewed as a waste gas and is frequently allowed to escape or, in some cases, flared off, which is less harmful.

    Unlike carbon dioxide emissions, however, which have been tracked in various ways since the 1950s, emissions of methane are poorly understood and could represent a threat that scientists have still not accounted for.

    For instance, the melting of the Arctic tundra releases methane as the vegetation underneath is gradually and sometimes suddenly exposed. This has been regarded by scientists as a potential “tipping point” whereby warming of the Arctic leads to greater releases of methane, therefore greater warming, in a runaway and uncontrollable cycle.


    Comparison of methane over Alison Canyon, California, acquired 11 days apart in January 2016 by (left) Nasa’s Aviris instrument on an ER-2 aircraft at 4.1 miles altitude and (right) by the Hyperion instrument on Nasa’s Earth Observing-1 satellite in low-Earth orbit.
    Although the world’s governments pledged at Paris last year to hold global warming to no more than 2C above pre-industrial levels, few have yet explained in detail how their intentions will be worked out. The president-elect of the US, Donald Trump, has also cast doubt on the US’s future participation in the emissions cuts required.


    Robert Jackson, professor of earth system science at Stanford University, and a co-author of the paper, warned that methane should also be a key focus of attempts to control climate change.

    “The levelling off we’ve seen in the last three years for carbon dioxide emissions is strikingly different from the recent rapid increase in methane. Unlike CO2, where we have well-described power plants, almost everything in the global methane budget is diffuse. From cows to wetlands to rice paddies [as well as other sources], the methane cycle is harder.”

    “Why this change has happened is still not well understood,” added Marielle Saunois, assistant professor at the University of Versailles Saint Quentin, and a lead author of the paper. “For the last two years especially, the growth rate has been faster for the years before. It’s really intriguing.”

    As well as measures that can be quickly implemented to prevent methane emissions from the fossil fuel industry, ways to cut emissions from agriculture are also being developed and implemented. New breeds of rice require less flooding in paddy fields, new feeds can cut down on emissions from cows, and there are methods of capturing methane from large agricultural barns where livestock are intensively reared. However, few of these are yet widely in operation.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ses-scientists

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    Methane is a potential nightmare. There is so much of it buried in permafrost and frozen at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. If that gets released we really are in the shit.

    https://www.nwf.org/News-and-Magazin...d-Methane.aspx

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    So temperature will first rise leading to a release of methane. Cause and effect. Much the same as CO2.

    We had an ice age better hope we have another!!!!!

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    ^ Good god you are stupid. You have been trolling this thread. When will you post any link to back up your dribble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Good god you are stupid. You have been trolling this thread. When will you post any link to back up your dribble?
    Links to what that it's a nutjob religion as opposed to science. It's all there in graphs posted by others, the change in temperature comes first which is cyclical. But if you want to keep believing the scam that has cost western economies billions and counting fill yer boots.

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    I think B'boy is on prozac ... such optimism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    I think B'boy is on prozac ... such optimism
    Proseco actually (dont do drugs) I know a bit of a girly drink but developed a taste for it, I blame the misses for her poor taste in drinks.

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    Methane an new CRISIS topic after co2 wears out, POLAR VORTEX a new CRISIS topic after global warming wears out. There search for new WE HAVE ONLY 5 YEARS LEFT AND WE MUST ACT NOW topics is never ending. The emperors clothes are threadbare and there desperate.

    It is coming increasingly clear to any andall how they just deny deny deny, they have no proof for 90% of what they claim except for the lies that come out of hard core xtreme green controlled nasa and noaa. And guess what in a few weeks all that is going to disappear! And guess what in a few weeks a YUGE investigation into what they did is going to happen and what will come out will be Yuge!

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    On the evilll thoroughly debunked site that cannot be named [climatedepot.com] they have an article from the new American top left, discussing a recent scientific climate conference in the us exposing all the lies and corruption in the greens science.
    There is some amazing info here, for example quotes from obamas science advisors john holdrens book in his 1977 book ecosience, where he suggested forced abortions, sterilizing the public via the water supply, creating a planetary regime with an armed police force to control resources and the population. The article is 100% jammed with interesting points. And I will say it before they do its totally debunked, 100% lies, u cant trust any of it. BECAUSE they are and u know who I mean bye they are scared u will read it. The amount of info in this 1 page article is staggering and you will be given a link where u can see a film of the conference.

    Oh just wait a sec let me say again, all the scientists in this article are in the pay of big oil or right wing extremist groups, evil to the core. There that should satisfy hairyminnow and bullshitnoob. But for those with open minds, omg read it.

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    The Arctic just had its warmest year on record ‘by far,’ scientists report


    The report, which is peer reviewed for its statements up through September, included a special non-peer reviewed addendum to cover the months of October and November of 2016 — perhaps because they were so extraordinary, featuring record low levels of Arctic sea ice heading into deep winter. (The Artic is the region of the planet north of 60 degrees latitude.) Here, the document noted the “record breaking delay in the freeze up of the sea cover in Fall 2016 is associated with unprecedented warm air and ocean surface temperatures.”

    In 2016 overall, warm Arctic temperatures led to the second lowest level of Arctic sea ice ever recorded at the summer minimum in September (many individual months saw all-time record lows), the second earliest beginning to the melt season for the Greenland ice sheet, low snow cover, and much else.

    “The 2016 Arctic Report Card further documents the unraveling of the Arctic and the crumbling of the pillars of the global climate system that the Arctic maintains,” said Rafe Pomerance, who is chair of the group Arctic 21 and sits on the Polar Research Board of the National Academy of Sciences. “Governments must urgently work together to establish a future Arctic that minimizes ever greater warming from the loss of sea ice and snow cover and thawing permafrost, and massive sea level rise from the shrinking Greenland ice sheet and other Arctic glaciers.”

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    Without going back through 178 pages. Anyone who belives the CO2 leading theory rather than...

    Has anyone mentioned underground coal fires? They release more CO2 into the atmosphere than all the cars in USA and nothing can be done to stop them. So because nothing can be done, there is no grant money, no NGO salaries, not money from tech. solutions they are quietly swept under the carpet so everyone can have a hybrid car , a special light bulb and a shopping bag for life!

    But with some forward thinking we could utilize the heat for a form of geothermal energy but that idea if popularized might open Pandora's box as far as the CO2 brigade is concerned so better we all just forget...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    ? Global warming ?
    In MNSFHO (I aint not gonna research this particular post) and AFAIK global warming is a proven scientific fact. But don't forget a fact can be either proven or disproven. EG is "disproven" a word? Who knows? But if I say "it's true 'disproven' is a word in the English language because wiktionary says it's an 'Alternative irregular form of the past participle of disprove'" then what I said is a fact, instead of an opinion which is anything that can't be proven or disproved. EG "There are lots of stars in the sky". Now you can argue what constitutes "proof" or "disproof" or "truth" ("that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality") vs "truth" ("a fact or belief that is accepted as true."--What's the difference between a "fact" and "reality"?) but you cannot argue that global warming is a fact whether you mean it is a scientific fact or a fact people other than scientists can prove...

    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    imaginary way to change nature is the hoax/scam.
    Says who? Isn't it your own fuckin' opinion? Where are the facts that can lead us on (pun) to believe your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    Methane an new CRISIS topic after co2 wears out, POLAR VORTEX a new CRISIS topic after global warming wears out. There search for new WE HAVE ONLY 5 YEARS LEFT AND WE MUST ACT NOW topics is never ending. The emperors clothes are threadbare and there desperate.

    It is coming increasingly clear to any andall how they just deny deny deny, they have no proof for 90% of what they claim except for the lies that come out of hard core xtreme green controlled nasa and noaa. And guess what in a few weeks all that is going to disappear! And guess what in a few weeks a YUGE investigation into what they did is going to happen and what will come out will be Yuge!
    Polar Vortex is not a new crisis, it is natural phenomenon that in recent years has become prone to destabilisation due to climate change. Once again you dismally fail to understand the science and produce more gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    On the evilll thoroughly debunked site that cannot be named [climatedepot.com] they have an article from the new American top left, discussing a recent scientific climate conference in the us exposing all the lies and corruption in the greens science.
    There is some amazing info here, for example quotes from obamas science advisors john holdrens book in his 1977 book ecosience, where he suggested forced abortions, sterilizing the public via the water supply, creating a planetary regime with an armed police force to control resources and the population. The article is 100% jammed with interesting points. And I will say it before they do its totally debunked, 100% lies, u cant trust any of it. BECAUSE they are and u know who I mean bye they are scared u will read it. The amount of info in this 1 page article is staggering and you will be given a link where u can see a film of the conference.

    Oh just wait a sec let me say again, all the scientists in this article are in the pay of big oil or right wing extremist groups, evil to the core. There that should satisfy hairyminnow and bullshitnoob. But for those with open minds, omg read it.
    And not content with one post full of gibberish, you follow it up with an even longer post full of gibberish.

    It seems to be your native language.

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    ^ The man is severely mentally challenged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    So temperature will first rise leading to a release of methane. Cause and effect
    Ever heard of a positive feedback loop? Probably not, it is science. It means that a process once started feeds and reenforces itself. Note, once it started. It was started by human produced excess CO2.

    We now have two independent effects with a positive feedback.

    One is the melting arctic ice. Less ice, less sunlight reflected into space, adding to heating the arctic ocean, which means it becomes harder for the ice shelf to grow during winter. If it grows, it is thinner and melts earlier during summer.

    The second is methane released from northern permafrost. An effect which has been warned to happen for many years. We had reports of this happening repeatedly, here on this thread too. Warming causes methane to be released, causing more warming.
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    Map: temperatures across the Arctic compared with the 2015-2016 average.
    Graph: yearly temperatures since 1900 compared with the 1981-2010 average for the Arctic (orange) and globe (gray).

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    Record Cold across the USA but its crisis hot in the arctic? Where did this record cold in the USA come from? Oh I know goldilocks invented it. How can it be hot in the arctic and cold down south? Did the arctic cold we are experiencing come from the wonderful world of oz? It came from somewhere, it didn't just appear. And where it came from must of been horrifyingly cold. And guess what that was the arctic which you call hot.

    Today in the new folks the greens announce that up is down, and down is up. Next in the news killer klowns go on a rampage, this was caused bye trumpaphobia. He must be impeached for creating killer klowns. He did this in conjunction with his plotting with putin who we all know stole the election for him, obamas democratic appointees all say so! Today in the news we have 100% proof of global warming because obamas green appointees say so on that too. Obama has put out an emergency call for more volunteers to be appointed to different govt branches to all declare more crisis due to trumpaphobia en masse. The republicans cannot be allowed into power even tho they won the election. News flash the newly appointed Commissar for fake news creation in the newly created peoples socialist department of the truth has just been created, as a sub branch of the dept of homeland security. Their purpose is to deal with anyone who dares to differ from the party line.

    The democratics don't look democratic anymore do they. More and more they look.......... and I don't like what I see.

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