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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Looks like the boss is going to make NASA do what they are paid for - Space reseach - not helping cook the books and make pretty graphs for the alarmists.
    So for a short time during the trump administration my monthly post will not look like this,...

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    JMA’s October number

    The monthly anomaly of the global average surface temperature in October 2016 (i.e. the average of the near-surface air temperature over land and the SST) was +0.29°C above the 1981-2010 average (+0.61°C above the 20th century average), and was the 3rd warmest since 1891. On a longer time scale, global average surface temperatures have risen at a rate of about 0.65°C per century.


    Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)
    1st. 2015 (+0.53°C), 2nd. 2014 (+0.34°C), 3rd. 2016 (+0.29°C), 4th. 2003 (+0.24°C), 5th. 2006 (+0.23°C)

    NASA’s October number


    NOAA’s October numbers


    Global indicators of change in 2016

    Temperature:
    2015 was the warmest year on record globally, surpassing the previous record set in 2014 by more than 0.1 °C. Global mean temperature at the Earth’s surface in 2015 exceeded the pre-industrial average (1850-1900) by more than 1 °C for the first time.


    2016 will be the third consecutive year of exceptionally high global surface temperatures. 2014 equalled the former record, 2015 broke it and 2016 is likely to be warmer still. Monthly temperatures have been at near-record or record levels since mid 2015 with the period from November 2015 to April 2016 being particularly warm.

    Snow and Ice:
    Arctic sea ice maximum extent reached a new record low in March 2016, 1.12 million km2 (or 7.2%) below the 1981-2010 average. Record low monthly extents continued into June. The actual minimum extent in 2016 occurred on 10th September and was the joint 2nd lowest on record, equal to 2007 and behind 2012. The average extent for September was 3rd lowest on record, and 1.95 million km2 below the 1981-2010 average.


    Greenhouse Gases:
    Carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide, the most dominant climate-forcing greenhouse gases, all reached new record high levels in 2015.1 The atmospheric CO2 concentration at Mauna Loa, Hawaii, increased by a record 3.05 parts per million during 2015, exceeding 400 ppm for the first time in the instrumental record, and in measurements of air trapped in ice cores for up to 800,000 years.2 In May 2016, Mauna Loa recorded an average monthly value of 407.6 ppm - the highest ever monthly value.

    Earth’s energy imbalance:
    Over the last four decades, the Earth has absorbed more energy from incoming solar radiation than it has emitted back to space. This energy imbalance is caused by the rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

    The oceans have absorbed more than 90% of this excess energy. Whilst surface warming is most pronounced, warming has been observed throughout the ocean depth. The remainder of the energy imbalance is accounted for in warming of the atmosphere and continents, and in melting ice.


    Rising sea levels:
    As the climate warms, land ice melt and the thermal expansion of water causes global sea level rise. Global mean sea level (GMSL) has risen by around 1.7 mm per year over the last century, increasing to 3.3 mm per year since the early 1990s. In 2015, GMSL averaged over the year was the highest in the satellite record and 7cm above the 1993-1999 mean.



    But might look like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    JMA’s October number

    The monthly anomaly of the global average surface temperature in October 2016 (i.e. the average of the near-surface air temperature over land and the SST) was +0.29°C above the 1981-2010 average (+0.61°C above the 20th century average), and was the 3rd warmest since 1891. On a longer time scale, global average surface temperatures have risen at a rate of about 0.65°C per century.


    Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)
    1st. 2015 (+0.53°C), 2nd. 2014 (+0.34°C), 3rd. 2016 (+0.29°C), 4th. 2003 (+0.24°C), 5th. 2006 (+0.23°C)

    NOAA’s October numbers


    Global indicators of change in 2016

    Temperature:
    2015 was the warmest year on record globally, surpassing the previous record set in 2014 by more than 0.1 °C. Global mean temperature at the Earth’s surface in 2015 exceeded the pre-industrial average (1850-1900) by more than 1 °C for the first time.


    2016 will be the third consecutive year of exceptionally high global surface temperatures. 2014 equalled the former record, 2015 broke it and 2016 is likely to be warmer still. Monthly temperatures have been at near-record or record levels since mid 2015 with the period from November 2015 to April 2016 being particularly warm.

    Snow and Ice:
    Arctic sea ice maximum extent reached a new record low in March 2016, 1.12 million km2 (or 7.2%) below the 1981-2010 average. Record low monthly extents continued into June. The actual minimum extent in 2016 occurred on 10th September and was the joint 2nd lowest on record, equal to 2007 and behind 2012. The average extent for September was 3rd lowest on record, and 1.95 million km2 below the 1981-2010 average.


    Greenhouse Gases:
    Carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide, the most dominant climate-forcing greenhouse gases, all reached new record high levels in 2015.1 The atmospheric CO2 concentration at Mauna Loa, Hawaii, increased by a record 3.05 parts per million during 2015, exceeding 400 ppm for the first time in the instrumental record, and in measurements of air trapped in ice cores for up to 800,000 years.2 In May 2016, Mauna Loa recorded an average monthly value of 407.6 ppm - the highest ever monthly value.

    Earth’s energy imbalance:
    Over the last four decades, the Earth has absorbed more energy from incoming solar radiation than it has emitted back to space. This energy imbalance is caused by the rising concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

    The oceans have absorbed more than 90% of this excess energy. Whilst surface warming is most pronounced, warming has been observed throughout the ocean depth. The remainder of the energy imbalance is accounted for in warming of the atmosphere and continents, and in melting ice.


    Rising sea levels:
    As the climate warms, land ice melt and the thermal expansion of water causes global sea level rise. Global mean sea level (GMSL) has risen by around 1.7 mm per year over the last century, increasing to 3.3 mm per year since the early 1990s. In 2015, GMSL averaged over the year was the highest in the satellite record and 7cm above the 1993-1999 mean.



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    Volcano's are the cause. End of.
    No. We’ve been over this.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    The pause is back !!

    So i was right about El Nino it was just masking the 18 year pause
    No. We’ve been over this.


    extra,.....

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    You Politically correct folk had your fun, had a few decades to lord it over normal people; bleat your sayings, bully,silence and name call dissenters

    But the game is up

    The tide has turned, no one is listening anymore-
    you are the new dinosaurs.

    I hope you will take the loss of power with as much grace as we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    You Politically correct folk had your fun, had a few decades to lord it over normal people; bleat your sayings, bully,silence and name call dissenters

    But the game is up

    The tide has turned, no one is listening anymore-
    you are the new dinosaurs.

    I hope you will take the loss of power with as much grace as we did.
    Another dimbo that doesn't realise it's a matter of SCIENCE... not who's fucking president. Thick as shit, ain't they?

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    Notice how they quote gavin Schmidt of nasa above, on the site theclimatescepticsparty.blogspot.ca there is an interesting letter from gavin to senator Roberts claiming no hanky-panky is going on. Right afterwards an email is posted between tom wigley and phil jones both prominent u know what wellllllllllllllll. Lets just say that the evidence is coming out about their desire to manipulate past weather data and their doing it to prove its warmer now bye reducing on their site temps around the world. But remember greenies u cant erase the data from all sites all texts all magazines all posts all articles. We got you.

    Further on the site that cannot be mentioned climatedepot.com there is an interesting article on the british windfarm called sturgeon? whatever the uk paid them 90 million pounds to stay turned off? yes its from the express but who cares where the truth comes from. Among other stories revealing just whats going on that they are trying to hide.

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    On the site wattsupwiththat.com there is a post on a UN poll on whats important around the world, its broken down bye men and womens opinions differences and bye rich and poor. It is very illuminating and the one thing that's revealing is that the poor rank global warming/climate change dead last, becauseeeee they don't see it, its not there, its not affecting them. Whereas in the west we are now soo touchy feely real proof and reality don't matter any more. Read the posts on the poll too, very informative.

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    And still no science.


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    We have trump And a solar sunspot minimum
    give up on it dinosaur boy


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    We have trump
    Oh ya?

    Trump admits 'some connectivity' between climate change and human activity



    Trump admits humans have 'some connectivity' on climate change - CNNPolitics.com

    He told you lemming whatever you wanted to hear to get elected and you marched right off the cliff for him.


    Donald Trump: Maybe Humans Did the Climate Change After All
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    Anyone who believes bsnoobs above post is also a noob, its just another example of twisted left wing manipulation of the news. On breitbart.com today there are a number of articles on left wing journalists losing contact with voters and also some of them admitting it.

    On the site that cannot be named, climatedepot.com is an article about Scotts and Shackletons log books, and how they demonstrate that antartic ice hasn't shrunk in 100 years. How its grown if anything, and that's after 30 years of hohoho global warming.

    Furthermore as I predicted before the us election how this whole thread was just a giant scare story in order to try and drum up overseas and returned expat votes for the dems. And I again predict that this post will largely wither away after hillarys election win /slaps his face and wakes up to the glorious reality of a republican win. I was never a huge trump fan. He will do whats necessary, just in such a deplorable fashion.

    On wattsupwiththat.com the lead article is a SCIENTIFIC article yes about a newly discovered 2400 to 2600 year climactic cycle. This explains a lot as any new discovery does. And demonstrates once again the lefts scare tactics and how they manipulate events for their benefit, and not for the peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien
    Anyone who believes bsnoobs above post is also a noob, its just another example of twisted left wing manipulation of the new
    He said it on tape you moron.



    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien
    breitbart.com
    A fake news propaganda site. Moron have a red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    Anyone who believes bsnoobs above post is also a noob, its just another example of twisted left wing manipulation of the news. On breitbart.com today there are a number of articles on left wing journalists losing contact with voters and also some of them admitting it.

    On the site that cannot be named, climatedepot.com is an article about Scotts and Shackletons log books, and how they demonstrate that antartic ice hasn't shrunk in 100 years. How its grown if anything, and that's after 30 years of hohoho global warming.

    Furthermore as I predicted before the us election how this whole thread was just a giant scare story in order to try and drum up overseas and returned expat votes for the dems. And I again predict that this post will largely wither away after hillarys election win /slaps his face and wakes up to the glorious reality of a republican win. I was never a huge trump fan. He will do whats necessary, just in such a deplorable fashion.

    On wattsupwiththat.com the lead article is a SCIENTIFIC article yes about a newly discovered 2400 to 2600 year climactic cycle. This explains a lot as any new discovery does. And demonstrates once again the lefts scare tactics and how they manipulate events for their benefit, and not for the peoples.
    Oh look, blah blah blah no science.


    Again.

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    I post a link to a 40 min video of a scientist making a scientific presentation to other scientists and hairyminnow does his usual and says wheres the science? To any impartial reader out there with a historical background what your seeing are tactics devised in the soviet union and used to deny opposing views. I wonder if you see what I see? Its sure disturbing, but also very revealing about the greens. There is no fairness, no honesty, no learning its all their way or no way. Its not about the truth, about learning, discovering, progressing, its all about brain washing and slandering, smashing, out screaming, out lasting all opposition. Just deny deny deny endlessly till your opposition gives up. And if your still posting you won! because all future readers just see you.

    What your seeing is the future of debate, green is the new Red. Take your watermelon and slice it open and that's the color of the green leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    I post a link to a 40 min video of a scientist making a scientific presentation
    Do you know what a link is, dipshit?

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    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-global-level

    Anyone who believes the millions of TONNES of pollutant particulates pumped into the atmosphere each year by factories and vehicles and the amount of dust kicked up by human activity into the atmosphere that regulates the temperature of the earth doesn't have an affect must be dimwitted.

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    you can tell its a piss poor article because there is no comments section...
    they always omit that when there is a high chance the snowflake readership might get upset by the truth from outsiders opinions.

    You are missing the point too, and mixing up pollution with co2

    Man made global warming theory is based on co2 been a green house gas , ie having the potential to trap heat from esacaping the Earth.

    How can reducing that natural gas help reduce real pollution?
    it cannot

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    Ok I admit I'm 100% in the wrong I didn't post a link!!! I posted an address to where u could go to watch the video. Hairyminnow is correct and I'm in the wrong. His superior intelligence has shown me the error of my ways. I shall never again in my life refer to posting a link when in fact I did the evil no forgiveness possible thing of posting an address where u can watch the video. This is an unforgiveable sin in hairyminnows eyes and I'm sure in all readers. As hairyminnow says posting an address means that the 40 min video isn't Science.

    And I have learnt that Science is only what he and his fellow greens say it is, not what scientists say it is. Bye the way how many of you knew that in the soviet union the communists believed science had to fit their ideology or it wasn't science and had to be reworked to fit the communist ideology to be accepted. Remind u of the greens at all?

    Whats sad is that most of the greens are mindless and know so little. It reminds me of a nice anarchist friend I had who was living illegally in Thailand who hated the us military wholeheartedly. When I informed him that the Russian socialist/communists under stalin alone had murdered 30 mill of their citizens and china 75 mill under mao he was speechless. People lwilling to condemn the us or business over misinformation, lack of indepth knowledge of what really is.

    This represents the mindset of 90 per of greens, and then there are the 10 per on top who manipulate them, feed them open lies and drivel. A pure example of this is n America closing down their coal burning plants which produce cheap electricity in order to save the world while asia, Africa etc is building or planning on building 2400. Either the greens are stupid or maybe just maybe its all part of the plan.

    Ok ill explain the plan, drive energy prices way up forcing many companies to either go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where the coal burning plants they are building sell them cheap power they crave, increase anti pollution laws so high as to force companies to go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where they don't have pollution laws and can go wild. Have business taxes so high it forces companies to go bankrupt or move to the 3rd world for tax relief. Hmm sound like the states? Sure does.

    And the result of all this is we lose the companies, the taxes, the incomes, the technology, the future, our future, our childrens future and export it all to the 3rd world, where the pollution these companies put out easily doubles and the greens cheer their success. This isn't green, its openly anti green and that's why the greens are called watermelon greens. Its globalization speeded up 30 40 50 years ahead of when it should happen, giving people no time to shift, impoverishing the west and its all democrat/green policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    Any doubts about Climate Change?
    Apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    Ok I admit I'm 100% in the wrong I didn't post a link!!! I posted an address to where u could go to watch the video. Hairyminnow is correct and I'm in the wrong. His superior intelligence has shown me the error of my ways. I shall never again in my life refer to posting a link when in fact I did the evil no forgiveness possible thing of posting an address where u can watch the video. This is an unforgiveable sin in hairyminnows eyes and I'm sure in all readers. As hairyminnow says posting an address means that the 40 min video isn't Science.

    And I have learnt that Science is only what he and his fellow greens say it is, not what scientists say it is. Bye the way how many of you knew that in the soviet union the communists believed science had to fit their ideology or it wasn't science and had to be reworked to fit the communist ideology to be accepted. Remind u of the greens at all?

    Whats sad is that most of the greens are mindless and know so little. It reminds me of a nice anarchist friend I had who was living illegally in Thailand who hated the us military wholeheartedly. When I informed him that the Russian socialist/communists under stalin alone had murdered 30 mill of their citizens and china 75 mill under mao he was speechless. People lwilling to condemn the us or business over misinformation, lack of indepth knowledge of what really is.

    This represents the mindset of 90 per of greens, and then there are the 10 per on top who manipulate them, feed them open lies and drivel. A pure example of this is n America closing down their coal burning plants which produce cheap electricity in order to save the world while asia, Africa etc is building or planning on building 2400. Either the greens are stupid or maybe just maybe its all part of the plan.

    Ok ill explain the plan, drive energy prices way up forcing many companies to either go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where the coal burning plants they are building sell them cheap power they crave, increase anti pollution laws so high as to force companies to go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where they don't have pollution laws and can go wild. Have business taxes so high it forces companies to go bankrupt or move to the 3rd world for tax relief. Hmm sound like the states? Sure does.

    And the result of all this is we lose the companies, the taxes, the incomes, the technology, the future, our future, our childrens future and export it all to the 3rd world, where the pollution these companies put out easily doubles and the greens cheer their success. This isn't green, its openly anti green and that's why the greens are called watermelon greens. Its globalization speeded up 30 40 50 years ahead of when it should happen, giving people no time to shift, impoverishing the west and its all democrat/green policy.
    Yep, still completely devoid of science.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Trump admits 'some connectivity'
    Now he's gonna talk like GW Bush?

    Looking forward to seeing his strategery unfold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Trump admits 'some connectivity'
    Now he's gonna talk like GW Bush?

    Looking forward to seeing his strategery unfold.
    And his policy on nucular weapons.


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    trump is an environmentalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    trump is an environmentalist.
    Is that the same Trump that's trying to get that chinless twat Farage to put the kibosh on a wind farm because it might spoil the view of his golf customers?

    Yeah, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien View Post
    Ok I admit I'm 100% in the wrong I didn't post a link!!! I posted an address to where u could go to watch the video. Hairyminnow is correct and I'm in the wrong. His superior intelligence has shown me the error of my ways. I shall never again in my life refer to posting a link when in fact I did the evil no forgiveness possible thing of posting an address where u can watch the video. This is an unforgiveable sin in hairyminnows eyes and I'm sure in all readers. As hairyminnow says posting an address means that the 40 min video isn't Science.

    And I have learnt that Science is only what he and his fellow greens say it is, not what scientists say it is. Bye the way how many of you knew that in the soviet union the communists believed science had to fit their ideology or it wasn't science and had to be reworked to fit the communist ideology to be accepted. Remind u of the greens at all?

    Whats sad is that most of the greens are mindless and know so little. It reminds me of a nice anarchist friend I had who was living illegally in Thailand who hated the us military wholeheartedly. When I informed him that the Russian socialist/communists under stalin alone had murdered 30 mill of their citizens and china 75 mill under mao he was speechless. People lwilling to condemn the us or business over misinformation, lack of indepth knowledge of what really is.

    This represents the mindset of 90 per of greens, and then there are the 10 per on top who manipulate them, feed them open lies and drivel. A pure example of this is n America closing down their coal burning plants which produce cheap electricity in order to save the world while asia, Africa etc is building or planning on building 2400. Either the greens are stupid or maybe just maybe its all part of the plan.

    Ok ill explain the plan, drive energy prices way up forcing many companies to either go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where the coal burning plants they are building sell them cheap power they crave, increase anti pollution laws so high as to force companies to go bankrupt or relocate to the 3rd world where they don't have pollution laws and can go wild. Have business taxes so high it forces companies to go bankrupt or move to the 3rd world for tax relief. Hmm sound like the states? Sure does.

    And the result of all this is we lose the companies, the taxes, the incomes, the technology, the future, our future, our childrens future and export it all to the 3rd world, where the pollution these companies put out easily doubles and the greens cheer their success. This isn't green, its openly anti green and that's why the greens are called watermelon greens. Its globalization speeded up 30 40 50 years ahead of when it should happen, giving people no time to shift, impoverishing the west and its all democrat/green policy.
    Yep, still completely devoid of science.




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    On the site realclimatescience.com there is a more detailed expose of nasa's gavin schmidts falsification of icelands climactic data. It shows the sheer size of the falsification and gavins pitiful lies to explain why it was done and how easy it is to pierce the veil on the greens lies. The comments on the article reveal interesting new data also.

    Why are the greens put in charge of nasas climate dept and noass etc bye obammination falsifying climactic data if the evidence they have is overwhelming on global warming? The simple truth is there is no evidence and they are creating it and that's why there is so much teeth gnashing over trumps win because now its just a matter of time for it to be revealed. They are like prisoners on death row, no escape just waiting for the executioner. Actually that's not true they are still in charge of their depts. moving as fast as they can to remove/delete all the incriminating evidence they can. But they cant remove all of it!

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