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Fucking hell, you mean Climatebidet.com isn't all over that shit already?!Quote:
Originally Posted by pulvarien
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Its old news, its been around for a few years and as time passes it is starting to happen. The last 2 winters in Ontario, that's just north of Cleveland to you uneducated were living hell. My citys cold record for the month of February was broken bye 8 degrees and that's not up its down and that's not farenheit either. And then el nino hit and interrupted the path to a mini ice age, but its gone now and we shall see if it continues down. And there desperate to win and impose their nasty plans on us even if it hits.
^ It has been repeated ad nauseum in this thread weather is not the same as climate change you retard. The polar vortex has been destabilized, so many of the northern regions will get extreme cold while others will see unusually warm temperatures. Case in point Alaska had a very mild winter last year as temperatures were very warm. Clueless.
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Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
Are you really arguing that your own chest-beating over 'doing your bit' works as some kind of carbon-credit system to entitle you to post hypocrisy free on an Internet forum and that you're setting an example?!
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^Bit of a soft fuck, aren't you.
Another gift of the gabber with no substance whatsoever.
Please, tell me again how awesome and tough and manly you are.
I remain unconvinced. :)
On iceagenow.info they posted the latest pew research poll on how many americans believe in global warming and guess what?? The number of American who now believe and trust them is down to aprox 25 %. Yes that means that aprox 75 % of americans are now clueless fuckwits as dumb as rocks.
The poll clearly states just what I keep saying that you cant trust them they lie continuously, they are using global warming as a reason for political goals, and this is now the position of 75 % of the American people. And the same goes for the left wing media who push it in order to reach their left wing political goals of permanent power and socialism/who knows how much further left they wanna go ism.
Chicken little you have cried that the sky is falling tooo many times! How do we all know this? Because we wake up the next morning and the sun is shining and its a beautiful day and eventually more and more people realize this you bunch of fuckwits.
And you're one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by pulvarien
One of the 75 per and growing? yes.
I just had a sardine sandwich. The extra fancy 18 baht kind from 7/11, on whole wheats.
Globla warm that up, bitch!!!
Thats one of your finest posts, If you don't deliver I may just pop up the 7 myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Earl
Isn't life like a can of Sardines, we're all looking for the key
Today on sundays national post a leading newspaper in Canada is an article stating how arctic ice is 20% higher at this time then in 2012. That the pace of freezing is extremely highl and calling out the greens for hysterical predictions that haven't come true. The greens now are starting to say they meant arctic ice wouldn't disappear until midcentury! Nationalpost.com
And bye the way Canadians do know what is going on in the arctic since soooo much of it is ours!
Indeed but anyone who knows anything, knows the earth climates cycles run in roughly 16,000 year cycles.Quote:
Originally Posted by pulvarien
We are indeed currently in a warming cycle.
The big problem is the bought science is just a distraction from the very serious environmental damage being done by the petro/plastic/chemical industries.
Global warming is not the issue, never has.
Stopping the destruction of the planet with corporate greed is the much bigger issue.
With Ice Growing At Both Poles, Global Warming Theories Implode
Published on October 1, 2016
Written by Alex Newman
In the Southern Hemisphere, sea-ice levels just smashed through the previous record highs across Antarctica, where there is now more ice than at any point since records began. In the Arctic, where global-warming theorists preferred to keep the public focused due to some decreases in ice levels over recent years, scientists said sea-ice melt in 2014 fell below the long-term mean. Global temperatures, meanwhile, have remained steady for some 18 years and counting, contrary to United Nations models predicting more warming as carbon dioxide levels increased.
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Of course, all of that is great news for humanity — call off the carbon taxes and doomsday bunkers! However, as global-warming theories continue to implode on the world stage, the latest developments will pose a major challenge for the UN and its member governments. Later this month, climate “dignitaries” will be meeting in New York to forge an international agreement in the face of no global warming for nearly two decades, record ice levels, and growing public skepticism about the alleged “science” underpinning “climate change” alarmism.
As The New American reported last month, virtually every falsifiable prediction made by climate theorists — both the global-cooling mongers of a few decades ago and the warming alarmists more recently — has proven to be spectacularly wrong. In many cases, the opposite of what they forecasted took place. But perhaps nowhere have the failed global-warming doom and gloom predictions been more pronounced than in the Antarctic, where sea-ice levels have continued smashing through previous records. For each of the last three years, ice cover has hit a new record high.
The most recent data show that the Antarctic is currently surrounded by more sea ice than at any other point since records began. In all, there are right now about 20 million square kilometers of frozen sea area surrounding the Antarctic continent. That is 170,000 square kilometers more than last year’s previous all-time record, and more than 1.2 million square kilometers above the 1981-to-2010 mean, according to researchers.
“This is an area covered by sea ice which we’ve never seen from space before,” meteorologist and sea ice scientist Jan Lieser with the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) told Australia’s ABC. “Thirty-five years ago the first satellites went up which were reliably telling us what area, two dimensional area, of sea ice was covered and we’ve never seen that before, that much area. That is roughly double the size of the Antarctic continent and about three times the size of Australia.”
Despite having predicted less ice — not more — as a result of alleged man-made global warming, some alarmists have comically tried to blame the record ice on “global warming.” Indeed, in a bizarre attempt to explain away the latest findings, Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems CRC boss Tony Worby tried to blame “the depletion of ozone” and the “warming atmosphere” for the phenomenal growth in sea ice — contradicting previous forecasts by warming alarmists, who warned that ice would decrease as temperatures rose along with CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere.
The biggest problem with Worby’s claim, however, is the fact that the undisputed global temperature record shows there has been no warming for about 18 years and counting — contradicting every “climate model” cited by the UN to justify planetary alarmism, carbon taxes, energy rationing, massive wealth transfers, and more. Dozens of excuses have been concocted for what alarmists refer to as the “pause” in warming, as many as 50 by some estimates. The Obama administration’s preferred explanation, for which there is no observable evidence, is often ridiculed by critics as the “Theory of the Ocean Ate My Global Warming.”
However, scientists and experts not funded by governments to promote the alarmist narrative say the observable evidence simply shows the man-made CO2 theories and “climate models” pushed by the “climate” industry are incorrect. More than a few climate experts and scientists have even warned that a prolonged period of global cooling is approaching quickly. The consequences could potentially be devastating — especially if warming alarmists succeed in quashing energy and food production under the guise of stopping non-existent “warming.”
Also in response to the fast-expanding ice, some die-hard alarmists and warming propagandists styling themselves “journalists”have recently been hyping a relatively tiny part of the Antarctic ice sheet that may — centuries or even millennia from now — go into the sea. Numerous independent scientists and experts quickly debunked the fear-mongering, however, pointing out that it was almost certainly due to natural causes and was nothing to worry about.
In an ironic incident that sparked laughter around the world, a team of “climate scientists” who set out to show how Antarctic ice was supposedly melting ended up getting their ship trapped in record-setting ice — in the summer! Millions of taxpayer dollars and massive quantities of fossil fuels and CO2 emissions were required to rescue the stranded and embarrassed warming alarmists after their misguided adventure.
Another key tactic of the warmists to deflect attention from the expanding polar ice in the Southern Hemisphere has been to hype changes occurring in the Arctic instead. Unfortunately for the alarmists, however — critics often ridicule the movement as a “cult” for desperately clinging to its beliefs despite the evidence, not to mention the “Climategate” scandal — that will now be much harder to do with a straight face.
“After the very high melt rates of the 2007-2012 period, the trend reversed in 2013 and especially in 2014 when the melt fell below the long-term average,” explained German professor and environment expert Fritz Vahrenholt, adding that the heat content of the North Atlantic was also plummeting. “In other words: The 21st century climate catastrophe is not taking place.”
Decades ago, of course, Newsweek reported that Arctic ice was growing so quickly due to man-made “global cooling” that “scientists” were proposing to melt the polar ice cap using black soot. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed. More recently, “climate” guru Al Gore had been regularly predicting that the entire polar ice cap would be gone by now. Instead, it is now far more extensive than when he made his now-discredited predictions.
Of course, UN bureaucrats, many of whom depend on sustainable alarmism for their livelihood, still have their heads in the sand about the implosion of their theory. On a call with reporters last week, for example, UN “climate team director” Selwin Hart, who serves under Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, claimed an upcoming global-warming summit in New York “will be a major turning point in the way the world is approaching climate change.” He may be right, though probably not in the way he intended. The conference, which will be skipped by key world leaders, is meant to put climate alarmism “back on top of the international agenda,” Hart added.
In the United States, meanwhile, as the evidence continues to contradict the alarmist predictions, polls consistently show that a solid majority of Americans reject the UN’s man-made global-warming theories. Like the UN, however, Obama continues to act as if the discredited theories were gospel, promising to save humanity from their carbon sins by lawlessly bypassing the U.S. Senate and the Constitution to foist a planetary “climate” regime on the American people. Lawmakers have vowed to prevent any such schemes, but it remains unclear how far the White House is willing to push the issue. After failing even with a Democrat-controlled Congress, the EPA is already working to impose Obama’s anti-CO2 schemes on America by executive decree.
With the evidence discrediting UN global-warming theories literally piling up on both ends of the Earth and everywhere in between, alarmists face an increasingly Herculean task in their bid to shackle humanity to a “climate” regime at next year’s UN summit in Paris. However, to protect the public — and especially the poor — from the devastation such a planetary scheme would entail, Americans must continue to expose the baseless alarmism underpinning what countless scientists now refer to as the “climate scam.”
Photo of typical Antarctic landscape
Alex Newman is a correspondent for The New American, covering economics, education, politics, and more. He can be reached at [email protected]. Follow him on Twitter @ALEXNEWMAN_JOU.
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Today on the site that cannot be mentioned, [climatedepot.com] The lead article is about record harvests of corn soybeans and wheat. Imagine that after 30 years of crisis, disaster, total disaster, and utter devestation once again record harvests. How is this possible? How after 30 years of environmental disaster on a scale unimagineable can we do this?
Maybe just maybe its all lies is how!
Also on the site noaas latest information shows rainfall in California was above normal for the year, tho the poor south is dry. But they will never cease their crisis scare tactics. And you the uninformed are the people they are trying to trick and oh they have succeeded for a long time too.
What has been the largest climate disaster in the past century in n America. According to the warmunists its global warming and the umpteen disasters America has been brutalized bye. I suggest tho that it was the great dry spell in the 30s that created the dust bowl. It damaged 7 states and almost destroyed Oklahoma, anyone seen the famous movie the grapes of wrath starring henry fonda? It destroyed half a million farms sending millions from the central us.
If a climate disaster lasting 5 years on that scale were to happen now the greens would cry time for a total take over of the govt bye hard left greens. How everyone has to give up all there power in the face of a permanent national disaster that will never leave us. In other words a takeover of America bye the far left, a coup, a revolution. And yet the rains returned after 5 years and alls gone back to normal. Would the greens give up power? Hell now because climate change is with us forever and they must have power and control over us forever to combat it. Or to control us for their benefit.
And all the 30 years of crisis we have gone thru pale before that 1 event. Nothing in their list of chicken little events compare to that one drought. But we must surrender everything to them because of these impositions on our comfort. Its not global warming its a hard left coup attempt and we are the victims.
Are you saying weather is no part of climate change,is in no way an indicator in climate change?Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
I googled the title of your article since you don't appear smart enough to post up a link. When I did so I found that this article originated in 2014. It is completely dated and was wrong then and is even more wrong today.Quote:
Originally Posted by RPETER65
Those denialist websites just repackage old articles and repost them up and dummies like you lap it up. There was so little ice in the arctic ocean this year a fucking cruise ship circumnavigated it. I posted all about in this thread.
Your article is bunk and just proves what an idiot you are.
https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3350856
2015
Perth electrical engineer’s discovery will change climate change debate
October 4, 2015
MIRANDA DEVINEPerthNow
A MATHEMATICAL discovery by Perth-based electrical engineer Dr David Evans may change everything about the climate debate, on the eve of the UN climate change conference in Paris next month.
A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.
He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.
He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.
It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.
“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.
Dr Evans says his discovery “ought to change the world”.
“But the political obstacles are massive,” he said.
His discovery explains why none of the climate models used by the IPCC reflect the evidence of recorded temperatures. The models have failed to predict the pause in global warming which has been going on for 18 years and counting.
“The model architecture was wrong,” he says. “Carbon dioxide causes only minor warming. The climate is largely driven by factors outside our control.”
There is another problem with the original climate model, which has been around since 1896.
While climate scientists have been predicting since the 1990s that changes in temperature would follow changes in carbon dioxide, the records over the past half million years show that not to be the case.
So, the new improved climate model shows CO2 is not the culprit in recent global warming. But what is?
Dr Evans has a theory: solar activity. What he calls “albedo modulation”, the waxing and waning of reflected radiation from the Sun, is the likely cause of global warming.
He predicts global temperatures, which have plateaued, will begin to cool significantly, beginning between 2017 and 2021. The cooling will be about 0.3C in the 2020s. Some scientists have even forecast a mini ice age in the 2030s.
If Dr Evans is correct, then he has proven the theory on carbon dioxide wrong and blown a hole in climate alarmism. He will have explained why the doomsday predictions of climate scientists aren’t reflected in the actual temperatures.
“It took me years to figure this out, but finally there is a potential resolution between the insistence of the climate scientists that CO2 is a big problem, and the empirical evidence that it doesn’t have nearly as much effect as they say.”
Dr Evans is an expert in Fourier analysis and digital signal processing, with a PhD, and two Masters degrees from Stanford University in electrical engineering, a Bachelor of Engineering (for which he won the University medal), Bachelor of Science, and Masters in Applied Maths from the University of Sydney.
He has been summarising his results in a series of blog posts on his wife Jo Nova’s blog for climate sceptics.
He is about half way through his series, with blog post 8, “Applying the Stefan-Boltzmann Law to Earth”, published on Friday.
When it is completed his work will be published as two scientific papers. Both papers are undergoing peer review.
“It’s a new paradigm,” he says. “It has several new ideas for people to get used to.”
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With Ice Growing at Both Poles, Global Warming Theories Implode
Written by Alex Newman
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Originally Posted by bsnub
The Chinese were saling to the Atlantic over the Arctic in 1240, what's the big deal, or was there man made global warming in 1240?
The Bond Cycle
See the work The Physical Evidence of Earth’s Unstoppable 1,500-Year Climate Cycle.
This cycle is not 1500 years as now claimed but is 1000 years. A Warm period and an Ice Age occur every 1000 years alternating for approximately 500-year periods. The error was made by taking ice layers in the caps as yearly levels instead of seasonal fluctuation.
800 to 1250 and a fluctuation ca. 1450 CE Medieval Warm Period.
We know for a fact that prior to 1434 the Chinese took it as normal to sail over the Arctic into the Atlantic in summer up until 1250 and possibly up until 1434 when their navy visited Europe via Suez and the Nile-Suez Canal. They sailed to Italy and visited Florence under the De Medici. Many of their inventions and probable maps were used by the Europeans.
ca. 950 1100 CEwarmest part of the Medieval Warm Period
^^ More denialist dribble David Evans is not a climate scientist. His theory has been debunked here;
https://denierlist.wordpress.com/201...r-david-evans/
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Originally Posted by RPETER65
It was never a possibility in all of human history until 2008 you moron.
For the first time in human history, the North Pole can be circumnavigated | The Independent
You denialists just love to make yourselves look stupid.
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And the Chinese sailing the Arctic in 1240?Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
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Originally Posted by bsnub
And you base this conclusion on a rag news paper not history? You might want to do a little more research, maybe something involving early Chinese history.