Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

So why aren't the United Nations, the leaders of the civilized world and the USA federal goverment in particular doing something to counteract and stem the damage being done to the planet by the petro/plastic world economies?

Big oil is a massive force bro as you well know. Trillions. They entirely fund the low IQ denialist movement. Fucked up but these dipshits swallow exxon, koch and other oligarchs cocks.

Originally Posted by Somboon

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

So why aren't the United Nations, the leaders of the civilized world and the USA federal goverment in particular doing something to counteract and stem the damage being done to the planet by the petro/plastic world economies?

Big oil is a massive force bro as you well know. Trillions. They entirely fund the low IQ denialist movement. Fucked up but these dipshits swallow exxon, koch and other oligarchs cocks.

Rubbish. The whole scam is based on fudged data from people with green investments. What a dumb arse you are. Every IPCC report has been plagued with massive errors.

Big oil responsible for IPCC blunders are they?

You're a brain washed ignorant lefty fool.

And you're the kind of gullible fool that Exxon Mobil loves.

Originally Posted by Somboon

You're the fool. I don't have much interest in oil or oil stocks.

Only the profiteers and the ignorant left carry on with nonsense about plant food.

You don't need it. You just need to swallow their rubbish and repeat it whenever you see a climate change conversation.

They've clearly got your number.

Originally Posted by Somboon

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Somboon

You're the fool. I don't have much interest in oil or oil stocks.

Only the profiteers and the ignorant left carry on with nonsense about plant food.

You don't need it. You just need to swallow their rubbish and repeat it whenever you see a climate change conversation.

They've clearly got your number.

What rubbish? The rubbish has been coming from the IPCC. Their models are woeful.

I get that some people make millions from the scam. The fools are the lefties like you that make zero.

Meanwhile normal people get on with life without thinking the world is going to end due to the latest scare campaign be it y2k or swine flu or gw bs.

Btw I've planted 80 plants the past 2 years which is probably 80 more than you. GW nutters are always the biggest hypocrites. More interested in posting crap on forums than practicing what they preach.

But carry on being ignorant on the topic if it makes you feel important.

Just the sort of evasive nonsense that Exxon tells people to write.

Originally Posted by Somboon

I did a google search and surprise surprise the 2 largest oil producers are Chinese!!@

You better go post gw bs on Chinese forums fool.

Yes, but China doesn't give a fuck. They are commissioning coal-fired power stations as fast as they can build them.

So they don't spend a lot of money trying to influence Western opinion on the environment.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

So 97% of the scientific community are in agreement that we are facing a global environmental crisis.

So why aren't the United Nations, the leaders of the civilized world and the USA federal goverment in particular doing something to counteract and stem the damage being done to the planet by the petro/plastic world economies?
Why aren't more zero emmission mandates being proposed instead of being repealed?
Why isn't petrol and plastic rationing being proposed?
Why aren't renewable resources like bamboo, hemp, cotton taking the place of petro/plastic products?

These are questions precious few are asking or even aware of.

The media isn't asking them becuase they are owned.
Governments aren't asking them because they are owned.
The education system isn't asking because they are owned.
Most people aren't asking because they too are owned by a petro/plastic banking cabal bent on greed and global domination.

It is time for people to start asking these uncomfortable and inconveneint questions, regardless if it means petrol rationing, zero emmission mandates, and a few less hamburgers. No more fat subsidies for the meat industry which is also raping the planet.

If you've ever done a postgrad in environment-related studies, or have worked with such people for a significant amount of time, you will come to notice that it's not in the interests of a typical PhD student or early-career researcher to go off-message. You have to put the same reworded para at the start of every paper, if you want to progress or have a career. It's all very well going on about "big oil", but it's not that common to see oil money directly going into academia. I know a prof whos got several million for a bp-related project, but this has to go through so many filters, and i can't see any sign that the output is influenced at all, the work people are doing and the papers have the same first paras, and O&G companies want that association for their csr scorecard. This fantasy the likes of bsnub (I've lost track of who amongst you is pro or against actually) has is just not borne out by evidence or experience - there's too much scrutiny - academic careers are precarious and people tend to follow the herd to pay their mortgage - "big academia" is more accurate, really. Yes they want money, but they can't afford to lose reputation by selling out to companies that the eco-mob want to make pariahs, because they need to maintain government support via the voters.

Honestly, you lot... just try an experiment - replace the "evil energy and plastics and industrial military complex" stuff from your little tirades and replace it with something utterly different, and re-read what you've written, and tell me it's not hysterical, paranoid, and silly. It sounds like a lurch to extremism because nobody really agrees with you... reminds me of how the Labour Momentum mob behave.





Maybe this is just a thing that Americans are susceptible too - I appreciate their education system and media is pretty mediocre by British standards.

Originally Posted by Somboon

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Somboon

I did a google search and surprise surprise the 2 largest oil producers are Chinese!!@

You better go post gw bs on Chinese forums fool.

Yes, but China doesn't give a fuck. They are commissioning coal-fired power stations as fast as they can build them.

So they don't spend a lot of money trying to influence Western opinion on the environment.

Neither do you
Zero plants in 2 years

You're just a whinger on a forum
The actual topic is irrevelant

And you're just a fucking idiot obviously.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

So 97% of the scientific community are in agreement that we are facing a global environmental crisis.

So why aren't the United Nations, the leaders of the civilized world and the USA federal goverment in particular doing something to counteract and stem the damage being done to the planet by the petro/plastic world economies?
Why aren't more zero emmission mandates being proposed instead of being repealed?
Why isn't petrol and plastic rationing being proposed?
Why aren't renewable resources like bamboo, hemp, cotton taking the place of petro/plastic products?

These are questions precious few are asking or even aware of.

The media isn't asking them becuase they are owned.
Governments aren't asking them because they are owned.
The education system isn't asking because they are owned.
Most people aren't asking because they too are owned by a petro/plastic banking cabal bent on greed and global domination.

It is time for people to start asking these uncomfortable and inconveneint questions, regardless if it means petrol rationing, zero emmission mandates, and a few less hamburgers. No more fat subsidies for the meat industry which is also raping the planet.

If you've ever done a postgrad in environment-related studies, or have worked with such people for a significant amount of time, you will come to notice that it's not in the interests of a typical PhD student or early-career researcher to go off-message. You have to put the same reworded para at the start of every paper, if you want to progress or have a career. It's all very well going on about "big oil", but it's not that common to see oil money directly going into academia. I know a prof whos got several million for a bp-related project, but this has to go through so many filters, and i can't see any sign that the output is influenced at all, the work people are doing and the papers have the same first paras, and O&G companies want that association for their csr scorecard. This fantasy the likes of bsnub (I've lost track of who amongst you is pro or against actually) has is just not borne out by evidence or experience - there's too much scrutiny - academic careers are precarious and people tend to follow the herd to pay their mortgage - "big academia" is more accurate, really. Yes they want money, but they can't afford to lose reputation by selling out to companies that the eco-mob want to make pariahs, because they need to maintain government support via the voters.

Honestly, you lot... just try an experiment - replace the "evil energy and plastics and industrial military complex" stuff from your little tirades and replace it with something utterly different, and re-read what you've written, and tell me it's not hysterical, paranoid, and silly. It sounds like a lurch to extremism because nobody really agrees with you... reminds me of how the Labour Momentum mob behave.





Maybe this is just a thing that Americans are susceptible too - I appreciate their education system and media is pretty mediocre by British standards.

Or maybe you too are falling for the oil company nonsense.

After all, that's why they spend millions:

To try and influence public and opinion and block any legislation that lets them drill, frack, burn and pollute whatever the fuck they want to, without any worries about the consequences to the environment and to people.

No. 1: ExxonMobil | Mother Jones

Meanwhile somboon thinks his allotment is saving the planet.

Originally Posted by pulvarien

Its based on the greens reputation they earned in the 70s and 80s when they did great things for the world

The greens, eh?

Whose initiative was the Climate Change Research Center, pulverian?

Originally Posted by Somboon

Btw I've planted 80 plants the past 2 years which is probably 80 more than you.

That's a lot of Marijuana. Seems you're getting a lot of use out of it. Are you a one or two harvest a year man.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

Seems you are a bit clueless as the average day time temperatures in Wyoming in August are 80's day and 50's night. Just thought I would throw in a couple of facts.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

Seems you are a bit clueless as the average day time temperatures in Wyoming in August are 80's day and 50's night. Just thought I would throw in a couple of facts.

Do you want to take a wild guess which month this photo was taken in Wyoming last year?

You're the clueless one.

This somboon clown is psuedo. I know his tinfoiled lunacy anywhere.

Originally Posted by bsnub

This somboon clown is psuedo. I know his tinfoiled lunacy anywhere.

Could be: He spouts the same endless shite.

^ Its all off of climate depot or some other similar sites like infowars he makes absurd claims and can never back it up with any credible evidence, exact same MO as psuedo. The other possibility is that its Albert. Those two spent a lot of time stroking each other off.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Its all off of climate depot or some other similar sites like infowars he makes absurd claims and can never back it up with any credible evidence, exact same MO as psuedo. The other possibility is that its Albert. Those two spent a lot of time stroking each other off.

A pair of arse bandits no doubt.

Great, we could have another Titanic.

James Cameron will be licking his lips in anticipation.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Scientist Peter Wadhams

from that link

His chief industrial links in ice research have been with the offshore oil and marine transport industries. He received continuous support from British Petroleum Co. from 1976 until 1992 for his research group at SPRI, covering funding of a technician and support for the design and development of novel instrumentation for use in Arctic ice engineering,

So the bearded little bitch was funded by big oil ....555
I guess that ran out so he shifted his poncing to the global warming gravy train

Come on lads up your game this is getting too easy .

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

Seems you are a bit clueless as the average day time temperatures in Wyoming in August are 80's day and 50's night. Just thought I would throw in a couple of facts.

Do you want to take a wild guess which month this photo was taken in Wyoming last year?

You're the clueless one.

Just goes to show not much warming in Wyoming for the last two
Years

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wyoming gets as much as 200 inches of snow a year in places.

Not to mention that most of it is over 5000+ feet above sea level. Tends to snow a lot in a place like that in fact last time I drove through it was a September and guess what it was snowing.

Lets be quick to point out though that throughout most of the rest of the country it has been a record hot summer.

Seems you are a bit clueless as the average day time temperatures in Wyoming in August are 80's day and 50's night. Just thought I would throw in a couple of facts.

Do you want to take a wild guess which month this photo was taken in Wyoming last year?

You're the clueless one.

Just goes to show not much warming in Wyoming for the last two
Years

It shows that, to some degree, it snows every year in Wyoming.

It's a northern state with mountains you blithering coffin dodger.

Would you believe in climate change if it stopped for a year?

When the temperature hit 0 degrees in the middle of august in twente Holland last week where were the mountains? Sorry there aren't any and that's in the summer too. Of course it was the night.

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