Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by blue

The winter is ending, the ice is thawing,
the Earth is moving to a new 'Spring '


embrace change don't be afraid of it

Exactly what would we running from?

Thanks for the red snubbles, but that was a serious question, what is the worst that can happen by the temperature of the earth going up a few degrees.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by blue

The winter is ending, the ice is thawing,
the Earth is moving to a new 'Spring '


embrace change don't be afraid of it

Exactly what would we running from?

Thanks for the red snubbles, but that was a serious question, what is the worst that can happen by the temperature of the earth going up a few degrees.

Sea levels displacing 100s of millions of people.

Extreme weather events that affect 100s of millions more, due to crop or property damage.

I would think they are the biggest two in terms of human impact.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sea levels displacing 100s of millions of people.

Where exactly?

Extreme weather events that affect 100s of millions more, due to crop or property damage.
.

Where are these 100s of millions? Why aren't they in the news?

I'm all for doing something about climate change.

All I see going on is alarmist BS and carbon credit pandering of the mega-rich and big business.

How about really doing something!

Zero emission mandates?
Petrol rationing?
A moratorium on personal motor vehicles?
Stop the 36 billion a year subsidies for the beef industries?
Return agriculture to an 8 food crop rotation?

Why isn't libtard media telling you these things, Harry?

has this January been selected as the warmest one ever yet ?
Are the pretty graphs out ?

meanwhile



East Asia cold snap 'kills 85 in Taiwan'

A cold snap sweeping across East Asia has killed at least 85 people in Taiwan and stranded 60,000 tourists in South Korea.
Taiwanese media reported deaths from hypothermia and cardiac disease following a sudden drop in temperature over the weekend.
Meanwhile heavy snow forced the closure of the airport on the Korean holiday island of Jeju, cancelling flights.
The cold spell has also hit Hong Kong, southern China and Japan.
'Sudden drop'

Many of those who died in Taiwan were elderly people living in northern regions such as Taipei and Taoyuan. Those areas accounted for 66 of the deaths.
Another 16 were confirmed dead in the southern city of Kaohsiung.
The temperature in Taipei city fell to a 44-year low of 4C (39F) on Sunday, and many homes in Taiwan lack central heating.
Many victims reportedly had heart trouble and shortness of breath.
"In our experience, it's not the actual temperature but the sudden drop that's too sudden for people's circulatory systems,'' said a city official quoted by AP news agency.

In Hong Kong, residents shivered in 3C, the lowest temperature there in nearly 60 years.
Parts of Guangzhou and Shenzhen in southern China have also seen the rare appearance of snow, while the southern Japanese island of Okinawa has seen sleet for the first time ever, report Chinese and Japanese media.

East Asia cold snap 'kills 85 in Taiwan' - BBC News

Originally Posted by blue

has this January been selected as the warmest one ever yet ?
Are the pretty graphs out ?

meanwhile



East Asia cold snap 'kills 85 in Taiwan'

A cold snap sweeping across East Asia has killed at least 85 people in Taiwan and stranded 60,000 tourists in South Korea.
Taiwanese media reported deaths from hypothermia and cardiac disease following a sudden drop in temperature over the weekend.
Meanwhile heavy snow forced the closure of the airport on the Korean holiday island of Jeju, cancelling flights.
The cold spell has also hit Hong Kong, southern China and Japan.
'Sudden drop'

Many of those who died in Taiwan were elderly people living in northern regions such as Taipei and Taoyuan. Those areas accounted for 66 of the deaths.
Another 16 were confirmed dead in the southern city of Kaohsiung.
The temperature in Taipei city fell to a 44-year low of 4C (39F) on Sunday, and many homes in Taiwan lack central heating.
Many victims reportedly had heart trouble and shortness of breath.
"In our experience, it's not the actual temperature but the sudden drop that's too sudden for people's circulatory systems,'' said a city official quoted by AP news agency.

In Hong Kong, residents shivered in 3C, the lowest temperature there in nearly 60 years.
Parts of Guangzhou and Shenzhen in southern China have also seen the rare appearance of snow, while the southern Japanese island of Okinawa has seen sleet for the first time ever, report Chinese and Japanese media.

East Asia cold snap 'kills 85 in Taiwan' - BBC News

Well to be honest it's nailed on that you are the sort of comprehensive-school-failed-most-of-his-CSE's-except-woodwork-type moron that doesn't know the difference between weather and climate, so that isn't really a surprise.

^you really think he passed the woodwork cse

why do you think he's so bitter and twisted. he failed and someone called Jerome passed

true that harry, the school I went to was 100% like the one in the film KES

but I overstand the difference .

According to your politically correct mob:

Weather - the name given to inconvenient events that go against global warmings doctrine, so as to trivialize and dismiss them.

Climate - any event, on any time scale that support global warming

Extreme weather - the sexy name given to weather that fits GW agenda; so it can , hypocritically, be included in propaganda.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sea levels displacing 100s of millions of people.

Where exactly?

Extreme weather events that affect 100s of millions more, due to crop or property damage.
.

Where are these 100s of millions? Why aren't they in the news?

If you had read and understand the discussion

Oh come on, it's Mr. Earl you're talking about here.




Still, he asked a question:

So Balk and some colleagues used satellite data to map out places along the coast that have low elevations — less than 30 feet above sea level. Then, to find out who lived there, they looked at census figures from 224 countries.

The numbers showed that low-elevation areas are home to 634 million people.

"Roughly one in 10 persons in the world lives in this low-elevation coastal zone," Balk says.

Some of the countries have very large populations: The 10 countries with the most people in the low coastal areas are China, India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan, Egypt, United States, Thailand, and the Philippines.

Study: 634 Million People at Risk from Rising Seas : NPR

Sure enough, sea levels might start rising, but why focus on that when the issue of air quality right now threatens peoples lives. This something very tangible and trading carbon credits isn't going to fix it.
People are dying right now because of shitty air quality. Why not deal with the air quality now, instead of blubbering on about hypothetical sea levels.
Why can't you libtards address the fact people are being killed right now because of this environmental disaster.
I think you should agree it is a disaster and there should be an emergency declared.
Anything short of that is bullshit.
Blathering away about hypothetical sea levels does more harm than good.
There is an emergency crisis right now which the libtard media is not addressing.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Why can't you libtards address the fact people are being killed right now because of this environmental disaster.

How many vehicles do you own again? About six right?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Why can't you libtards address the fact people are being killed right now because of this environmental disaster.

How many vehicles do you own again? About six right?

And what has that got to do with the air quality in Beijing, Bangkok and Los Angeles and other cities around the world? I'm actually engaged in agriculture and growing renewable resources, what are you doing Peewee?
Taking family holidays in the new SUV, driving to the store, driving to work....

Ah thanks for clarifying the facts Peewee. When incapable of addressing the issue; lead with personal attacks.

I would think this is one of your pet libtard issues, yet you apparently want nothing to do with it, you don't really want clean air do you! You simply want to blubber and blabber about rising sea levels.
Meanwhile people are actually dying because shitty air quality. But you don't give a shit because libtard media hasn't told you to give a fuck about what really is going on with the environment.

^^ Nuke China problem solved.

Originally Posted by Ozcol

^^ Nuke China problem solved.

One billion people live in China.

Actually up untill about 10 years ago the Chinese had it right with the bicycle.




Sadly they've since been importing brain damage from the USA called; the personal motor vehicle.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

And what has that got to do with the air quality in Beijing, Bangkok and Los Angeles and other cities around the world?

You don't know? Internal combustion engines burn fossil fuels and cause pollution.

Sheesh, it's pretty basic stuff.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

When incapable of addressing the issue; lead with personal attacks.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

... you libtards... libtard... libtard... libtard...

Wot??

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Meanwhile people are actually dying because shitty air quality.

So it was six vehicles?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

And what has that got to do with the air quality in Beijing, Bangkok and Los Angeles and other cities around the world?

You don't know? Internal combustion engines burn fossil fuels and cause pollution.

Sheesh, it's pretty basic stuff.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

When incapable of addressing the issue; lead with personal attacks.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

... you libtards... libtard... libtard... libtard...

Wot??

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Meanwhile people are actually dying because shitty air quality.

So it was six vehicles?

I'm waiting for zero emission vehicles to become reality. Until sparing use of the old vehicles is required.

What the matter Peewee cant you discuss your pet issue in reality?

Isn't the environment important to you? Why isn't your litard media leading the way here to a zero emission future?

Peewee do you at least ride your bike to work?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

What the matter Peewee cant you discuss your pet issue in reality?

My pet issue? My media? Wot??

You're the one blathering on about the 'environmental disaster of air quality' whilst owning, what was it again, six vehicles?

I'm reminded of the time that you started whinging about the adverts for prostitution services on the 'family friendly TD forum' having previously posted unsolicited lewd details of your own encounters with the same.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

What the matter Peewee cant you discuss your pet issue in reality?

My pet issue? My media? Wot??

You're the one blathering on about the 'environmental disaster of air quality' whilst owning, what was it again, six vehicles?

I'm reminded of the time that you started whinging about the adverts for prostitution services on the 'family friendly TD forum' having previously posted unsolicited lewd details of your own encounters with the same.

Deflect deflect, Peewee are you truly incapable of a discussion about 'global warming'.
This issue is the media darling for you isn't it?
If you don't care about the environment then what are you?

Tell me Peewee why isn't there any serious talk about zero emissions and bicycle use as a solution to the urban air pollution crisis.

Come Peewee address the issue, or should we cue another banal personal attack...

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

This issue is the media darling for you isn't it?

You keep trying to erect that straw man and it keeps toppling over.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Tell me Peewee why isn't there any serious talk about zero emissions and bicycle use as a solution to the urban air pollution crisis.

Why does someone who owns multiple vehicles keep talking about the issue as though it's all someone else's fault and responsibility.

It's like an obese man telling others they should stop eating McD's through a mouth full of Burger King.

Or, if you like, someone moaning about ads for prostitutes on a forum whilst posting lewd details of his own encounters with prostitutes on the same.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

or should we cue another banal personal attack...

... you libtards... libtard... libtard... libtard... Peewee... your litard[sic] media... Peewee...

Wot??

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sea levels displacing 100s of millions of people.

Where exactly?

Where are these 100s of millions? Why aren't they in the news?

If you had read and understand the discussion

Oh come on, it's Mr. Earl you're talking about here.




Still, he asked a question:

So Balk and some colleagues used satellite data to map out places along the coast that have low elevations — less than 30 feet above sea level. Then, to find out who lived there, they looked at census figures from 224 countries.

The numbers showed that low-elevation areas are home to 634 million people.

"Roughly one in 10 persons in the world lives in this low-elevation coastal zone," Balk says.

Some of the countries have very large populations: The 10 countries with the most people in the low coastal areas are China, India, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan, Egypt, United States, Thailand, and the Philippines.

Study: 634 Million People at Risk from Rising Seas : NPR

Sure enough, sea levels might start rising, but why focus on that when the issue of air quality right now threatens peoples lives. This something very tangible and trading carbon credits isn't going to fix it.
People are dying right now because of shitty air quality. Why not deal with the air quality now, instead of blubbering on about hypothetical sea levels.
Why can't you libtards address the fact people are being killed right now because of this environmental disaster.
I think you should agree it is a disaster and there should be an emergency declared.
Anything short of that is bullshit.
Blathering away about hypothetical sea levels does more harm than good.
There is an emergency crisis right now which the libtard media is not addressing.

Unfortunately people in Northern Thailand and other affected areas in that region, and major Chinese and Indian cities, don't read the NYT or watch BBC News.

It's their governments job to take action.

Or have you missed all the legislation in the West against atmospheric pollution?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Or have you missed all the legislation in the West against atmospheric pollution?

Yea Harry I seem to have completely missed the discussions of zero emissions and zero emission mandates.
Please direct me!
I also missed the discussion on petrol rationing and a moratorium on the personal motor vehicle.
Please direct me!

I did notice some pandering of big business with bullshit carbon credit measures.

Carbon credit aren't going to remedy the environmental emergency which exists right now.
A carbon credit isn't going to save anyone's life or prevent the hypothetical rise in sea levels.

I also missed any media discussion of ceasing the 36 billion dollar subsidies for the beef industry, another major greenhouse gas producer.
Where is the media on this?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

This issue is the media darling for you isn't it?

You keep trying to erect that straw man and it keeps toppling over.

So you don't really care about the environment, and the environmental crisis/emergency facing the globe.
That's fine Peewee, then just say so.


You just pay lip-service to liberal issues, like most SUV liberals, who would never forgo a creature comfort for the benefit of the planet.
A bright and shinning hypocrite you are indeed.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You just pay lip-service to liberal issues, like most SUV liberals, who would never forgo a creature comfort for the benefit of the planet.
A bright and shinning hypocrite you are indeed.

... So six vehicles right?

And you want to know why other people aren't doing anything whilst you bleat on about "libtards" on a forum.

I think you need to look up the meaning of the word "hypocrite". And perhaps buy a mirror.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Or have you missed all the legislation in the West against atmospheric pollution?

Yea Harry I seem to have completely missed the discussions of zero emissions and zero emission mandates.
Please direct me!
I also missed the discussion on petrol rationing and a moratorium on the personal motor vehicle.
Please direct me!

I did notice some pandering of big business with bullshit carbon credit measures.

Carbon credit aren't going to remedy the environmental emergency which exists right now.
A carbon credit isn't going to save anyone's life or prevent the hypothetical rise in sea levels.

I also missed any media discussion of ceasing the 36 billion dollar subsidies for the beef industry, another major greenhouse gas producer.
Where is the media on this?

You can't just make a zero emission law.

You need to look at the major sources which at present are transportation and industry.

Pollution legislation on cars has made a big dent, the development of affordable mass transit another.

In industry, tough laws are in place for polluters.

But you're right, they could do more and probably will.

But the Chinese and the Indians don't want to do anything.

Fair point about the cows, but herbivorous animals have always existed on the earth so are you going to go for a mass extermination of them?

And do you really have six vehicles?