Thread: Rethinking the state of Israel

Originally Posted by Skulldigger

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ceburat

God gave the land to Abraham and all his seed thereafter for a permanent possission.
Israel has lost some ownership over the years due to their sin and dis-obidence to God, however, their rights are as "everlasting possession". The Israelites are still God's chosen people.

Can't get much simpler than that all you Yid-haters!
Excellent post, ceburat.

Are you Jewish or Christian then?

Neither - just can't stand them Yid-Haters.
You one of them?

Originally Posted by Skulldigger

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ceburat

God gave the land to Abraham and all his seed thereafter for a permanent possission.
Israel has lost some ownership over the years due to their sin and dis-obidence to God, however, their rights are as "everlasting possession". The Israelites are still God's chosen people.

Can't get much simpler than that all you Yid-haters!
Excellent post, ceburat.

Are you Jewish or Christian then?

I am Christian.

Originally Posted by ceburat

God created the earth. He owns the land and as owner he can give it to who he wants.

Unfortunately, this invisible god does not have representatives who could announce the latest state borderlines and adjust the land title deeds according to his wishes, unless you recognise the Pope, but even he does not enjoy such privilege.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

God created the earth. He owns the land and as owner he can give it to who he wants.

Unfortunately, this invisible god does not have representatives who could announce the latest state borderlines and adjust the land title deeds according to his wishes, unless you recognise the Pope, but even he does not enjoy such privilege.

The closest thing to a representative who could state borderlines and adjust the land title deeds, etc would be the people, or their decendents that God gave the land to. They exist in Israel, ask them.

Originally Posted by ceburat

They exist in Israel, ask them.

Who exactly should I ask, I do not know anything about this, you don't mean just any Israeli, do you?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

They exist in Israel, ask them.

Who exactly should I ask, I do not know anything about this, you don't mean just any Israeli, do you?

I am sure that they have an office/ministry of sorts that handles land management. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

They exist in Israel, ask them.

Who exactly should I ask, I do not know anything about this, you don't mean just any Israeli, do you?

I am sure that they have an office/ministry of sorts that handles land management. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted.

Or, those who are curious enough could look it up in the most top-selling book in the world, eh?

I am not so sure about that. I think for current land records, deeds, etc you would have to trace back to around the time of Christ or a little before. The Israelie people do keep records of land transactions. In fact they are quite accurate at keeping records of history and other matters such as land transactions.

Originally Posted by ceburat

I am not so sure about that. I think for current land records, deeds, etc you would have to trace back to around the time of Christ or a little before. The Israelie people do keep records of land transactions. In fact they are quite accurate at keeping records of history and other matters such as land transactions.

Perhaps buried within the archives of old Knights Templar or Freemasonary texts, some references to Soloman's day exist. A worthy acadamic pursuit for those inclined?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Or, those who are curious enough could look it up in the most top-selling book in the world, eh?

The bible? Does it say who in Israel at present knows how god wishes to draw land borders?

Originally Posted by ceburat

I am sure that they have an office/ministry of sorts that handles land management. I am sure you could find out if you really wanted.

You're speaking in riddles. First "They exist in Israel", and now this.
Who is "they", the Israeli civic service, the government, some rabbi or other, a particular religious group, perhaps?

Who is it who knows what god's wishes are?

Ok Stroller. You really don't want to know or admit who owns the land where the Hebrews live today. That's your problem.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Perhaps buried within the archives of old Knights Templar or Freemasonary texts, some references to Soloman's day exist. A worthy acadamic pursuit for those inclined?

You also believe in the story of elves and trolls, don't you ?

??? I cannot "admit" anything, because you've not named anyone who could tell me which are the borders god allocated to present Israel, it is you who claimed such persons exist in Israel.
Name someone who, in your opinion, is the nearest representative of god, and provide a link to what they say, and I will comment on it.

I do want to know and await your reply.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Skulldigger

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by ceburat

God gave the land to Abraham and all his seed thereafter for a permanent possission.
Israel has lost some ownership over the years due to their sin and dis-obidence to God, however, their rights are as "everlasting possession". The Israelites are still God's chosen people.

Can't get much simpler than that all you Yid-haters!
Excellent post, ceburat.

Are you Jewish or Christian then?

Neither - just can't stand them Yid-Haters.
You one of them?

Nah. Some of my best friends are yids. Doesnt mean that I believe their shit doesnt stink, though.

Originally Posted by stroller

??? I cannot "admit" anything, because you've not named anyone who could tell me which are the borders god allocated to present Israel, it is you who claimed such persons exist in Israel.
Name someone who, in your opinion, is the nearest representative of god, and provide a link to what they say, and I will comment on it.

I do want to know and await your reply.

Stroller you are such a stupid arguing ass hole. Any child knows that many years ago man started recording such things and that now a days there is official offices that record such things. Of course back in OT times I don't think that they recorded much. What office in Israel is in charge of such things today could advise you, but, you don't want to know only argue or talk bull shit. If you really want to know, quite talking stupid and playing word games and find out.

I might add. Go back and read what I wrote to start with. God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever. I did not say anything about today. If you want to know exact boundries today, do as I said above and find out. If you want to know what the boundries were before read Genesis.

You don't actually believe that God told the Israelis to keep that land ? how did they communicate ? did they get a memo.

Seriously ceburat, you can't believe in all those fairy tales, they are complete non-sense. Also the jewish religion didn't really exist at the time, and it was mainly violent sects fighting each other until they became 2 kingdom because of their deep division in their faith

Originally Posted by ceburat

God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever.

god apparently didn't give you any common sense.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Perhaps buried within the archives of old Knights Templar or Freemasonary texts, some references to Soloman's day exist. A worthy acadamic pursuit for those inclined?

You also believe in the story of elves and trolls, don't you ?

That's a pretty dumb rejoiner there, B-Fly.
The above-mentioned are historical figures based in fact.
Elves...dunno about. Trolls? Got a bunch of 'em 'round here - that's for sure.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Stroller you are such a stupid arguing ass hole.

Thanks for your reasoned, considerate reply.

As before, you avoid direct questions, skittle around and respond with insults and accusations when cornered.

I did not say anything about today.

You did, you said there are descendents of the original guys who god gave the land to in Israel today, they are the nearest to being representatives of god in this respect, you claimed, and referred me to them to find out the present land borders, well, without saying who they are.
You were just nuttering without any base for arguments sake, weren't you?

A fine "Christian" you are, and on top, a rational debater to boost - not.

bigot:
IN BRIEF: A narrow-minded person who is intolerant of beliefs other than his or her own.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The above-mentioned are historical figures based in fact.

I haven't seen any "figures" here.
Just territorial claims based on archaic history and "god's word" - which turned out to be rather ethereal as it happens.

Not cornered stroller. Just too smart to play your silly word games.

Yes butterfly, I believe every word of the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

As for you raycarey, I have read many things that you have posted on teakdoor. You not only have no common sense, you are totally stupid.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Not cornered stroller. Just too smart to play your silly word games.

Meaning you haven't got any answers. Thank you.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

Not cornered stroller. Just too smart to play your silly word games.

Meaning you haven't got any answers. Thank you.

The above text is proof of what I said before about you. You only want to argue and always have the last word. You are too stupid to believe any truth in any form. It does not matter how many degrees you may have or how high in life you have risen, you are really, seriously ignorent.

Oh, so you will feel better. Go ahead and post back so you can say you got in the last word. Enjoy...