Thread: Rethinking the state of Israel

Originally Posted by ceburat

I might add. Go back and read what I wrote to start with. God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever. I did not say anything about today. If you want to know exact boundries today, do as I said above and find out. If you want to know what the boundries were before read Genesis.

This argument is covenient....for the people who are taking the land.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by ceburat

I might add. Go back and read what I wrote to start with. God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever. I did not say anything about today. If you want to know exact boundries today, do as I said above and find out. If you want to know what the boundries were before read Genesis.

This argument is covenient....for the people who are taking the land.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by ceburat

I might add. Go back and read what I wrote to start with. God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever. I did not say anything about today. If you want to know exact boundries today, do as I said above and find out. If you want to know what the boundries were before read Genesis.

This argument is covenient....for the people who are taking the land.

Taking the land? They already own it. As a country Israel has owned the land for over 3000 years.

This fighting and tit for tat b.s., from both sides, is never going to stop until Arabs accept that Israel is there to stay and that they have every right to stay, be there.

Time to quit fighting and get on with life.

Originally Posted by ceburat

I believe every word of the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

it's like engaging kerux or diaw in a discussion....

"i'm right because (my interpretation of )the bible says so"

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

Originally Posted by raycarey

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

Jesus is a traitor and should be shot, oh wait, that's what the jews said when they killed him.

The New Born Again Christians: Jesus is a liberal commie and we should ignore his teaching and follow the Old Testament instead. Why are we called Christians then ? well, it just sounds neat, but really we don't believe in the New Testament.

clearly you haven't read the bible MM.....god gave the land to the israeli govt.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by ceburat

I believe every word of the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

it's like engaging kerux or diaw in a discussion....

"i'm right because (my interpretation of )the bible says so"

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

It is not a matter of interpretation. The Bible is of no private interpretation. If you, and ten others, all read the Bible with an open mind and accept what it say's, you will all agree on what was written. However, if you read with your own pre-con.ideas then you will all dissagree.

Israel made the discision to defend themselves. If they were not under attack they would have no reason to defend themselves. As far as women and children being killed in war. A smart person will move his loved ones far from the combat zone and danger. A smart person would never use his women and children or those of another for a human shield.

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Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by ceburat

I might add. Go back and read what I wrote to start with. God gave the land to the Israelies to keep forever. I did not say anything about today. If you want to know exact boundries today, do as I said above and find out. If you want to know what the boundries were before read Genesis.

This argument is covenient....for the people who are taking the land.

Taking the land? They already own it. As a country Israel has owned the land for over 3000 years.

Israel was not a "country" until Resolution 181.

This fighting and tit for tat b.s., from both sides, is never going to stop until Arabs accept that Israel is there to stay and that they have every right to stay, be there.

Even those that accept Israel is there and will remain there, have problems with what they Israelis do to Arab-Israeli citizens, the Lebanese and Palestinians.

Time to quit fighting and get on with life.

Where do you live in this world.

Quite easy for you to say this.

Because of the rising Palestinian population this issue will only get worse. The problem will exist in the future decades.

Israel - a country or a people? Does not change the facts that they are the owners of the land.

Some people have a problem with everything the other side does, or does not do. All, Arab and Jew, including their half way brothers or supports, all need to cut the b.s. about you do this, you did that, i did't do that, fight, kill b.s. Just stop all of it on both sides and get on with life.

I think I am right, correct me if wrong. I am an American, as you are. I reside in Thailand. One difference in me and many others on this forum, and maybe the difference between you and I, is that I believe the entire Word of God with out exception. Do you?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by raycarey

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

Jesus is a traitor and should be shot, oh wait, that's what the jews said when they killed him.

The New Born Again Christians: Jesus is a liberal commie and we should ignore his teaching and follow the Old Testament instead. Why are we called Christians then ? well, it just sounds neat, but really we don't believe in the New Testament.

pure nonesense

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ and we wonder why the world is fucked up

With people like you and Stroller, what do you expect?

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by Milkman

I think I am right, correct me if wrong. I am an American, as you are. I reside in Thailand. One difference in me and many others on this forum, and maybe the difference between you and I, is that I believe the entire Word of God with out exception.

Which god?

Do you?

It's a farce.

Which God. There is one God and only one God. Never has there been two or three or more. The god's of Egypt and other countries, India, etc. are not true Gods. The God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob is the only true God.

The God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob.... is the Hebrew God. He is also the Christian God. The only difference being is that when He came to earth in the form of a baby/man, in the flesh. Then the Jew's rejected him because they did not believe that he was the one to come. So they (Hebrews) are still waiting for the deliverer to come. Christians accept that he has come and that his name is Jesus. Islam worships the same God but, in a different way then the Jew's. Both Islam and Jew's reject Jesus.

Someday you will drop the farce idea. Only then it may be too late for you.

There are billions of people in this world that disagree with this opinion.

What about the Muslims? They claim is the "final seal," and that Allah is also the god of the Jews and Xtians?

"Islam worships the same God but, in a different way then the Jew's. Both Islam and Jew's reject Jesus." Is not this the same as Allah is the god of the Jews and Xtians? We agree, just differently stated.

Note:
I moved the last few pages and made a different thread, it's a different topic.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by ceburat

I believe every word of the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

it's like engaging kerux or diaw in a discussion....

"i'm right because (my interpretation of )the bible says so"

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

It is not a matter of interpretation. The Bible is of no private interpretation. If you, and ten others, all read the Bible with an open mind and accept what it say's, you will all agree on what was written. However, if you read with your own pre-con.ideas then you will all dissagree.

Israel made the discision to defend themselves. If they were not under attack they would have no reason to defend themselves. As far as women and children being killed in war. A smart person will move his loved ones far from the combat zone and danger. A smart person would never use his women and children or those of another for a human shield.

thanks for sharing.

now, how about an answer to the question....if there were a jesus would he support the actions of the israeli govt. and military?

Originally Posted by stroller

Note:
I moved the last few pages and made a different thread, it's a different topic.

Where did you move it to?

Sorry: https://teakdoor.com/issues/9712-juda...the-bible.html

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by ceburat

I believe every word of the Word of God, the Holy Bible.

it's like engaging kerux or diaw in a discussion....

"i'm right because (my interpretation of )the bible says so"

and ceburat, if your mythical little friend jesus did exist, do you think he would support the decisions of the israeli govt. and military?

It is not a matter of interpretation. The Bible is of no private interpretation. If you, and ten others, all read the Bible with an open mind and accept what it say's, you will all agree on what was written. However, if you read with your own pre-con.ideas then you will all dissagree.

Israel made the discision to defend themselves. If they were not under attack they would have no reason to defend themselves. As far as women and children being killed in war. A smart person will move his loved ones far from the combat zone and danger. A smart person would never use his women and children or those of another for a human shield.

thanks for sharing.

now, how about an answer to the question....if there were a jesus would he support the actions of the israeli govt. and military?

The answer is above, read it.

if you don't want to answer, that's fine--in fact, considering the corner you've painted yourself into, i don't blame you.

i have no intention of getting into an endless kerux/diaw christianity rhyme and riddle circle-jerk...so i'll ask one final time---would jesus approve of the actions of the israeli govt. and military?

Originally Posted by ceburat

The answer is above, read it.

"Jesus" doesn't even get mentioned in your answer. But you haven't exactly build a reputation for answering direct questions...

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by ceburat

The answer is above, read it.

"Jesus" doesn't even get mentioned in your answer. But you haven't exactly build a reputation for answering direct questions...

You are answered directly there. It is your ignorance that prevents you from reading then answer.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if you don't want to answer, that's fine--in fact, considering the corner you've painted yourself into, i don't blame you.

i have no intention of getting into an endless kerux/diaw christianity rhyme and riddle circle-jerk...so i'll ask one final time---would jesus approve of the actions of the israeli govt. and military?

As I told you. The answer is there, read it. I cant help it if you don't understand english.

Jesus does not approve of Islamic's using women and children as human shields. Does that answer your question. Americans and Israelities do not targget women as children as Islamic's do.

next!

Originally Posted by raycarey

if you don't want to answer, that's fine--in fact, considering the corner you've painted yourself into, i don't blame you.

i have no intention of getting into an endless kerux/diaw christianity rhyme and riddle circle-jerk...so i'll ask one final time---would jesus approve of the actions of the israeli govt. and military?

For your information and sTROLLERS. I am not in a corner. I know of what I speak and it is all backed up in the most truthful book of all "the Holy Bible". If you are in a corner or lost, that's your problem.

You will have to read the KJV bible before ceburat will take you seriously. But even then, you'll have to agree that his word is the same as god's, because he is a true believer, you are not.