Thread: Iraq News

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

We still have soldiers in Japan, Korea, Germany, Bosnia & the ME.

Same same, huh?
Do they also travel back home in coffin class?

They're stationed there at the request of the host governments --who know a good thing when they see one.

Imagine that. A few countries in the world that aren't insignificant, morally vacant, washed-up, has-beens actually WANT US troops in their countries.

How many US troops are stationed in England? Bout 10,000 I reckon ... I might be wrong, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by Texpat

They're there at the request of the host governments.

Well, then it's not same same, right?

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Texpat

They're there at the request of the host governments.

Well, then it's not same same, right?

Maliki doesn't want?
Last I heard he's still got the welcome mat out for them...

Nice to know the war is over. Someone please tell the soldiers.
Sometimes I think these blokes actually believe their own bullshit.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Imagine that. A few countries in the world that aren't insignificant, morally vacant, washed-up, has-beens actually WANT US troops in their countries.

The Tex melt-down continues...

^^ more of a warm up

^ Could you be any more hypocritical?

Originally Posted by Panda

Nice to know the war is over. Someone please tell the soldiers.

dateline nakhon nowhere......

the war in iraq is over....in fact, it ended in 2003.

Good to see you're finally coming around Corporal Carey.

What exists there is a complete mess. But it's not a war. You might buy into the term war on terror, but that's more of a concept or ideal. Not a war in the traditional sense. Do you consider fighting your TD deamons a war, Jason?

Don't denigrate the term war by comparing it with battles or skirmishes.

"Justice without force is a myth." -- Blaise Pascal

Originally Posted by Texpat

Jason

Originally Posted by stroller

Last edited by Norton : Today at 02:39 PM.

Well, that's another mod outed.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Don't denigrate the term war by comparing it with battles or skirmishes.

OH, I see. So now the war in Iraq is merely a skirmish according to Tex.
Should be over by lunch time hey?

Obviously a slow news day in Iraq then.

Originally Posted by sabang

Obviously a slow news day in Iraq then.

Only a few dozen Iraqis dead including women and kids. But then again those dirty rag heads dont count. No Americans killed today. So its all good news.

So sad to see the Americans turn this country into a slaughterhouse of anarchy.
Liberation from a ruthless dictator has led only to vastly increased suffering for the people of Iraq. GWB has the blood of far more Iraqis on his hands than Saddam Hussein ever did. The bastard should be publicly hanged and go down in history along side Hitler and other war criminals for the crimes against humanity he has committed.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Texpat

Jason

Well, does Corporal Jason sound better?

Originally Posted by Panda

So sad to see the Americans turn this country into a slaughterhouse of anarchy.

A wee bit over the top there, perhaps?

Originally Posted by Milkman

I think there are some countries - or the special interests within certain countries that want the US in these countries.

Sure.

And those who don't are "insignificant, morally vacant, washed-up, has-beens". I think I will need to spend some time doing research to establish if this well considered allegation is true in all, or at least the overwhelming majority of cases.

It's going well. I even watched a report on BBC tonight that showed an Iraqi saying very positive things about his government and the situation on the ground.

Get your digs in now boys. Too bad you had to leave so soon (hehehe). Don't be angry at American successes. Just suck it up and try harder.

Too late to meaningfully argue that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was a success, but the sooner an element of stability can be reintroduced to the place the better. If it can't, well I think to say it's an embarassment for the US would be an understatement. Lets hope no civil war eventuates.

I believe however that it can- not perfectly, but at least to the extent where the US military occupation can scale down, and meaningful foreign investment can commence.

If the security situation becomes tenable, it is foreign investment that will provide the stimulus to bring Iraqi living standards and quality of life back to what they were, and surpass them in the long term. Mutual benefit you might say- a buck in it for 'us' a buck in it for them.

It was a tragic folly, but we have to deal with what is rather than what should have been. Little purpose would be served by a unilateral withdrawal at this point.

Tragic folly?

The US Revolutionary War lasted far longer than 5 years and the US took another few decades to get it's shit together.

In 20 years Iraq will look back on this period fondly and continue to thank the United States of America.

In 100 years when Iraq is a superpower, those whose grandfathers chickened out will still be making digs, pissing and moaning and berating actions which they didn't have the intestinal fortitude to partake.

Originally Posted by Texpat

In 20 years Iraq will look back on this period fondly and continue to thank the United States of America.

Yeah, I am sure they will come to their senses and appreciate having been a strategic target for US power-brokers and oil barons.

They might have cleared all the remaining active cluster bomb bits in 20 years as well.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Tragic folly?

Yes, tragic folly. But by all means continue to argue from your dwindling corner, you are an endangered species these days.

Originally Posted by Texpat

In 20 years Iraq will look back on this period fondly

Hardly- have you ever visited Vietnam? Actually, most Iraqi's look back fondly on their quality of life 20 years ago- y'know, best standard of living in the Arab world and all that. In twenty years time however, Iraq will hopefully be a functioning nation- or what was Iraq will be three smaller nations if it doesn't go as we hope. Those many who were killed will be long dead, those who will be forever bitter will be aging and dying, and a younger generation ascendant.

Like I said-

Originally Posted by sabang

we have to deal with what is rather than what should have been

Originally Posted by Texpat

In 100 years when Iraq is a superpower,.

Great Superpower(?); when their oil has been all pumped out, what, exactly, is so great about the place?