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    Vox has a better breakdown of some of the GOP’s demands: https://www.vox.com/2017/10/8/164454...ion-principles

    White House to Congress: We'll legalize DACA recipients if you crack down on most other immigrants

    Trump’s “priorities”: restrict asylum, limit family-based legal migration, and build the wall — in exchange for giving legal status, but not citizenship, to 700,000 people.

    The principles laid out by the White House are comprehensive and detailed, and it would take a lot more space to go through all of them. But here are some of the most ambitious proposals that the White House sees as a “priority” in exchange for any legalization of DREAMers.

    · Building the wall. The first priority listed in the White House’s executive summary is to “Fund and complete construction of the southern border wall.” What that actually means is deliberately unclear; acting Border Patrol Chief Ron Vitello said on Sunday that Congress and Border Patrol needed to work out exactly what would be built and where. The White House has occasionally used “wall” to describe existing border fencing, and has acknowledged that some (perhaps a lot) of the US/Mexico border doesn’t need a total physical barrier. But Democrats in Congress have made it clear time and again that they have no interest in giving money to anything called a “wall,” and it’s the first thing that Schumer and Pelosi pointed to as evidence that Trump was violating the still-vague “deal” they believe they made with the president last month.

    · Cracking down on asylum-seekers — particularly Central American children and families. Administration officials pushed the talking point on Sunday night that border security didn’t just mean apprehending everyone who crossed into the US without papers, but being able to deport them quickly after they were caught. Their biggest obstacle to doing that now is that many of those people aren’t trying to sneak into the US — they’re coming to seek asylum. And current US law makes it much harder for the government to detain and deport asylum-seekers, especially if they have or are children.

    · Requiring employers to use the E-Verify system to check that anyone they’re hiring is legally allowed to work in the US. Short of mass deportation, the most aggressive thing the federal government could do to crack down on the 11 million unauthorized immigrants currently in the US would be to require all employers to use the E-Verify system to check the legal status of anyone they’ve hired or are hiring. While the E-Verify system has well-documented problems (both in terms of falsely identifying legal workers as “illegal” and failing to catch unauthorized immigrants), making it universal could still kick millions of unauthorized immigrants out of work or force them into the underpaid underground economy. E-Verify hasn’t been a priority for the Trump administration before now, but “requiring E-Verify” is one of the priorities it lists as part of any DACA deal.

    · Severely restricting family-based legal immigration. The RAISE Act — the Trump-endorsed bill that would cut legal immigration in half over the next decade — isn’t in the White House’s principles document by name. But the White House isn’t abandoning the idea: it wants Congress to end “chain migration” of family members, and replace it with a “merit-based” immigration system. Specifically, US Citizenship and Immigration Services director Lee Francis Cissna called on Congress to limit family-based legal migration to minor children and spouses of US citizens and legal permanent residents — preventing citizens from bringing over their parents, adult children, or siblings.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Your points system can allow for so-called unskilled labour (i.e. people who will work for fucking peanuts) in certain industries. How else is orange cunto going to staff his golf courses?

    Do do you expect unskilled workers to get paid a rate about the same as skilled workers ,who have spent years learning a skill. You do realize there is a minimum wage which documented workers would get paid,no more under the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Trump’s “priorities”: restrict asylum, limit family-based legal migration, and build the wall — in exchange for giving legal status, but not citizenship, to 700,000 people.
    So much for 45's reaching across the aisle. As well they should, Dms will sit back and let the Repblicans sort out the Dreamer problem. Like all the "priority" legislation they will fail again with this and lose further voters back home.

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    ^The GOP’s starting point is unacceptable and the hope is that these Dreamers families, friends, co-workers, classmates, loved ones, etc remember what the GOP did to these kids hopes/lives November 6, 2018.

    The Dream Act should be a stand-alone bill.

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    Young South Florida undocumented immigrants potentially headed for deportation in less than five months unless some political compromise can be worked out in Congress were left befuddled but defiant — and maybe worried, too — at a list of demands released as the price of a deal over the weekend by President Donald Trump’s White House.

    “I was very disappointed with the deal that was offered, if you can even call it a deal,” said Elias Rosenfeld, a student at Brandeis University in Massachusetts who calls Aventura home. “It’s just completely unfair. I think it’s a poison pill, intended so that no real deal is reached.”

    Undocumented immigrants say Trump demands too high to revive DACA | Miami Herald

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    remember what the GOP did to these kids hopes/lives November 6, 2018.
    For sure the Republicans are watching the mood of their support base and are more than a bit worried.

    "As you may know, Dreamers are young people who were brought to the United States illegally when they were children, often with their parents. Which of the following do you think is the best way to handle Dreamers?"

    • 58 percent said Dreamers "should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements."

    • 18 percent said Dreamers "should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but NOT citizens, if they meet certain requirements."

    Combined, this totals the 76 percent Pelosi cited.

    Backing up her point about Republican support, the poll found 69 percent of Republicans and 84 percent of Democrats surveyed favored one of these two options.

    Do three-quarters of Americans support the DREAM Act? Nancy Pelosi says so | PolitiFact California
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Do do you expect unskilled workers to get paid a rate about the same as skilled workers ,who have spent years learning a skill. You do realize there is a minimum wage which documented workers would get paid,no more under the table.
    Coffin dodger, if you are willing to accept significant rises in the cost of your produce, your restaurant and hotel bills, etc., then pay the minimum wage, and perhaps your fellow Americans would then take the jobs.

    It's not rocket science, is it?

    If you clear out all the cheap, unskilled "illegal" labour, how else do you expect to replace it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you clear out all the cheap, unskilled "illegal" labour, how else do you expect to replace it?
    Unemployed coal miners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Coffin dodger, if you are willing to accept significant rises in the cost of your produce, your restaurant and hotel bills, etc., then pay the minimum wage, and perhaps your fellow Americans would then take the jobs.

    It's not rocket science, is it?

    If you clear out all the cheap, unskilled "illegal" labour, how else do you expect to replace it?
    Maybe create a program to bring foreign workers on a as needed basis, Americans given the jobs first ,that is after able bodied Americans be booted of the welfare program if they choose not to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Maybe create a program to bring foreign workers on a as needed basis, Americans given the jobs first ,that is after able bodied Americans be booted of the welfare program if they choose not to work.
    So maybe depress wages in one sector so it keeps them low in the others, eh?

    Yeah, fucking great plan that.



    This is what you sound like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So maybe depress wages in one sector so it keeps them low in the others, eh?

    Yeah, fucking great plan that.



    This is what you sound like.

    And just how is this going to depress wages? Are you daft ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    And just how is this going to depress wages? Are you daft ?
    Do you think employers are going to pay minimum wage to temporary foreign workers?

    (Do you think they should?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do you think employers are going to pay minimum wage to temporary foreign workers?

    (Do you think they should?).
    If they are in the US and legally working the employers would have no choice they would be protected under US law the same as a green cars holder. Yes I think they should be paid the same wage as US citizen doing the same job.

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    Shameful way to treat this man.



    Mentally Disabled Man Faces Deportation



    YORK SPINGS, PENNSYLVANIA — Guillermo Peralta Martinez does not know how old he is or where he was born or even the name of his mother. Mentally disabled, Peralta cannot say whether he is a legal resident of the U.S. A stocky man who looks like he is in his mid-30's, he suffers from a speech impediment that makes the few words and short sentences he utters in Spanish almost unintelligible.


    Despite those challenges, he has made friends in York Springs, Pennsylvania, where some vouch that he has lived in the state since at least the late 1990s, and maybe longer.


    Picked up by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) earlier this year, Peralta now faces deportation.


    "The executive orders are clear, no populations are off the table," acting ICE director Tom Holman said in August. ICE told VOA that it does not exempt classes or categories of removable aliens from potential enforcement. However, Peralta's lawyer says his case is an example of ICE overreach.




    From roundup to legal limbo


    ICE agents approached Peralta one morning in mid-February as he was getting ready to go to work in the south-central Pennsylvania town of York Springs. "They just grabbed me," he said in halting Spanish, his high-pitched voice quavering as he spoke. "They took my keys and threw my lunch away."


    ICE says Peralta was arrested along with another individual at 5:30 in the morning, coming out of a building that was the address of an illegal alien with a criminal record whom agents were seeking.


    On the standard form filed by ICE after arrests are made, form I-213, the agents stated that Peralta and the other man declared they were citizens and nationals of Mexico and were in the United States illegally. They were taken to a detention facility in the town of York, about 39 kilometers away. Neither man had criminal records.


    "They took my fingerprints," Peralta said of his time in jail. "And they put handcuffs on." He said he was treated well while in the York detention facility, but also pointed to his arms where he said the orange prison clothes left rashes that itched. It was a confusing time. "I didn't know what was going to happen to me," he said.




    'I want to stay here'


    An arrest warrant dated Feb. 22, 2017, one day after Peralta was detained, states that Peralta made statements "voluntarily to an immigration officer that he lacks immigration status and as such is removable under U.S. immigration law."


    The I-213 form also states that Peralta said his mother and father are Mexican citizens, that he has one child who lives in Florida, and that he has no medical conditions. It also lists his age at 45 at the time of his arrest.


    Peralta's pro-bono lawyer, Craig Shagin, disputes the information in the I-213 form, saying ICE's case against his client is full of holes. Shagin points out Peralta is extremely disabled and hardly knows what he is saying. "When him I met in the York County prison I would ask him: 'Where do you live?' and he would say in Spanish 'Out there.' I would ask him his birth date and he would say: 'One and Two,'" Shagin recalled, speaking to VOA at his law firm's office in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.


    "If you would ask him 'Were you born in Mexico?' 'Yes.' Were you born in Argentina?' 'Yes.' 'Were you born in Florida?' 'Yes.' Well, there's a problem there."


    Shagin points to other discrepancies: The arrest warrant is dated one day after Peralta was detained; he is at least 10 years younger than stated by ICE, according to an affidavit by someone who knew him when he was young boy after he was abandoned by his parents; he has never fathered a child according to those who know him; and his arrest took place at a different address than where ICE said.


    Witnesses say Peralta was arrested inside an apartment building while he was waiting for his ride to work.


    "There is no evidence Peralta was doing anything suspicious," Shagin writes in his defense brief. "It is unlikely he would have been questioned regarding his citizenship but for Guillermo's Hispanic appearance."


    Finally, Shagin argues, there is no proof Peralta was born outside the United States and concludes that Peralta's clear "cognitive impairment demonstrates that the respondent's own statements are potentially unreliable."


    Peralta was freed on bail in late April after spending more than two months in jail. Marlen Carbajal, a former York Springs resident who has known him since 2011, said the small town's Hispanic community rallied in his support and came up with the $5,000 in bail money to free him.


    "About a dozen people from town showed up for his bail hearing," Carbajal recalled, while sitting with Peralta in his tiny one-room basement apartment earlier this month. "His face lit up when he saw us, he was so happy."


    Since his release, Peralta has returned to working odd jobs. "I want to stay here," he said, but added he is afraid of being picked up again.




    Immigration court


    ICE has declined comment on Peralta's case specifically, except to maintain that he entered the country illegally. But in a statement to VOA, the agency said, "ICE employees have been given the honor of a special public trust. In keeping with this trust, ICE's enforcement activities are conducted with integrity and professionalism."


    Peralta's deportation case is one of many before the U.S. Department of Justice Immigration Court in Philadelphia. As of the end of May, Philadelphia had a backlog of 2,536 cases.


    When Peralta and his lawyer appeared in court in August, ICE asked for more time to develop its case. That has since been extended to November 25.


    https://www.voanews.com/a/mentally-d...n/4082867.html

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    This fvcker (and everyone who supports the GOP) is having a miserable month……..


    • Supreme Court Rules Trump Wrongly Ended DACA, Leaves Program In Place


    Nearly 650,000 people are currently protected from deportation under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.: Supreme Court Rules Trump Wrongly Ended DACA, Leaves Program In Place | HuffPost

    • Supreme Court rejects Trump effort to end DACA


    Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court’s Democratic appointees in a 5-4 decision.: Supreme Court rejects Trump effort to end DACA - POLITICO

    • The Supreme Court just ruled to preserve protections for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants for now


    Here’s what you need to know about this hard-won victory for DACA recipients.: DACA: Supreme Court rules to preserve protections for DREAMers - Vox



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    Judge Orders Trump Administration To Restore DACA As It Existed Under Obama




    A federal judge has reversed the Trump administration's latest round of rules placing further limits on the Obama-era program that shields undocumented immigrants who came to the country as children from deportation.

    Under the order filed Friday, Judge Nicholas Garaufis of the U.S. District Court in Brooklyn instructed the Department of Homeland Security to begin accepting new applications for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program as soon as Monday.

    In his ruling, Garaufis said the terms of the federal program must be immediately restored to what they were "prior to the attempted rescission of September 2017" when the White House began a series of maneuvers to dismantle the program.

    The judge also instructed officials to reinstate two-year permits for qualifying applicants. Over the summer, the administration had begun issuing one-year permits.

    DACA currently protects about 640,000 undocumented young immigrants. As of July, an estimated 300,000 young people living in the U.S. are eligible for the program and still waiting for a chance to apply. That includes 55,000 who have aged into eligibility over the last three years.

    "The ruling is a huge victory for people who have been waiting to apply for DACA for the first time," Veronica Garcia, staff attorney at the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, said in a statement.

    She added that acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf's "decision to suspend the program was just another attempt by the Trump administration to wield its extremely racist and anti-immigrant views and policies."

    Garaufis' decision is the latest court ruling against the administration.

    In June, the Supreme Court blocked the Trump administration's 2017 attempt to end DACA, saying the administration's reasoning was "arbitrary and capricious." In July, a federal court in Maryland also ordered the administration to start accepting new applicants.

    But 11 days later, Wolf issued a memorandum cutting renewal permits from two years to one and blocking all new applications.

    That prompted a November ruling by Garaufis saying that Wolf was not lawfully serving as DHS acting secretary when he issued the changes "because the Department of Homeland Security failed to follow its order of succession, as it was lawfully designated under the Homeland Security Act."

    As a result, Garaufis vacated the changes initiated by Wolf.

    Wolf has been serving as acting secretary since November 2019; he has not been confirmed by the Senate. Kirstjen Nielsen, who resigned in April 2019, was the last DHS secretary to be confirmed by the Senate.

    Court documents said that DHS has until Monday to post a public notice "displayed prominently on its website and on the websites of all other relevant agencies, that it is accepting first-time requests for consideration of deferred action under DACA.": Judge Orders Trump Administration To Restore DACA As It Existed Under Obama : NPR

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    Good old baldy orange loser, SO MUCH WINNING right to the end.


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