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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
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    Not irked at all, just looking for something more than avoiding the question, which it seems you have finally gotten around to.
    ... You just simply don't get it, do you.
    What you don't seem to see is that both Hong Kong and the oil rich musilim nations only achieved wealth through the hard work of people of the western world, yes or know. Curious to see how you will circumvent the answer here, I actually enjoy your watching you and the hat evade the obvious.
    Oh great... So now that objective reality has been pointed out to you and you can no longer reasonably deny that there are, in actual point of fact, wealthy Muslim nations you're now shifting the goal-posts once more so that if there are wealthy Muslim nations then it has to be completely and utterly owing to the West. Heartening to see that good old fashioned colonial-racism is alive and well.

    Anyways I'll not 'circumvent the answer' (interesting choice of phrase that by the way - clearly indicates that, as per, there's actually only one 'answer' you're looking for) because I'll not bother engaging in such a transparently sophomoric, disingenuous and logically flawed 'debate'. Again - any answer you receive that is not in accordance with your pre-determined one will simply cause you to shift the posts again. It really is all rather junior-varsity stuff; even acknowledging it gives it a semblance of creedence and recognition it doesn't deserve.

    Where did I deny that there are wealthy muslim nations, the only thing I addressed in the beginning was agreeing with another poster that most of there wealth came from oil, and that they needed a lot of help from western nnations to turn that oil into wealth. Please try to keep up if you can.So you deny or at least put little importance that the west was very instramental in developing the ability to turn muslim nations oil into wealth.
    I should have stated circumventing the real question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    they needed a lot of help from western nnations to turn that oil into wealth.
    Do we call that development aid? So selfless of 'us'

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Please try to keep up if you can.
    Are you acquainted with dotcom? The term 'irony' simply leaps out of your posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Where did I deny that there are wealthy muslim nations, the only thing I addressed in the beginning was agreeing with another poster that most of there wealth came from oil, and that they needed a lot of help from western nnations to turn that oil into wealth. Please try to keep up if you can.
    First of all I never disputed that some nations are wealthy from oil resources either. That was my point. Secondly, the idea that they need(ed) Western help to profit from that was never even mentioned until you brought it up in your earlier post.

    So apparently it's you that is having some trouble keeping abreast of what has/hasn't actually been said and the points in question. Quod erat demonstrandum...
    So you deny or at least put little importance that the west was very instramental in developing the ability to turn muslim nations oil into wealth.
    I should have stated circumventing the real question.
    I've said nothing of the sort, it's entirely irrelevant. Again, it's a point that you introduced in order to shift the posts. You can't support the notion that all Muslim nations are poor just because those that are oil-rich should be excluded because... Well, just because...

    And this was actually the point originally in contention. Something you might have noticed if that foot in your mouth wasn't obscuring your view too.

    So all you've merely gone and done is qualify it with a further irrelevancy, another loaded question, that you're going to get your knickers all twisted over because it's not being answered how you'd like it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    they needed a lot of help from western nnations to turn that oil into wealth.
    Do we call that development aid? So selfless of 'us'

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Please try to keep up if you can.
    Are you acquainted with dotcom? The term 'irony' simply leaps out of your posts

    Call it anything you like, it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    it is what it is.
    Profound . . . except when it isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
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    it is what it is.
    Profound . . . except when it isn't
    Yep. I've always considered Popeye to be one of the world's great philosophers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    it is what it is.
    Profound . . . except when it isn't
    Yep. I've always considered Popeye to be one of the world's great philosophers
    Depends how you feel about existentialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
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    it is what it is.
    Profound . . . except when it isn't
    Yep. I've always considered Popeye to be one of the world's great philosophers
    Depends how you feel about existentialists.
    Popeye is as real as RPETER's thoughts.

    I think there was a French guy a while ago who uttered something similar . . . It is because it is! (paraphrasing)

    Has RPETERS read French philosophy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
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    it is what it is.
    Profound . . . except when it isn't
    Yep. I've always considered Popeye to be one of the world's great philosophers
    Depends how you feel about existentialists.
    I don't like them, they steal my cigarettes and they're always trying to borrow money. Whenever I complain about it they just mutter "hell is other people" and leave, pausing on the way out to grab a bottle of Absinth off my shelf.
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    I could never quite grasp Popeye's philosophies.

    I mean what have yams got to do with anything? Is it a metaphor, the starch representing the rigidity of society??

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    Yams and absinthe . . .

    What the heck is wrong with you guys??? Popeye is a spinach-man! (Oh, and he smokes) . . . and lives in Utah with the little black fella from Diff'rent Strokes and his gargantuan wife . . . now SHE is a real ginger one

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    Is Popeye talking about the simple fact of his existence when he says I yam whad I yam, or is he talking about the manner of his existence?

    If Popeye was referring to the simple fact of his existence why does he not simply say – I am [or I yam] why does he have to add the supplementary what I yam – what does the additional: what I am add to his statement and how does it change the import completely?

    The what is not the true interrogative in this case, but a relative determinant which has the meaning I am that which I am. It is Popeye’s rum-fueled assertion about the modality, class, kind, or nature of his existence. But he uses it without furnishing us with any predicative life-style details. They remain covert like God's mountaintop I am response with Moses. We are expected to know about the way that Popeye exists a priori. Of course millions of children all over the world DO know in advance about Popeye’s manner of behaviour and his liking for spinach, and his love for the skinny-ribbed Olive, and his fights with the huge, towering rival for Olives three-fingered hand.

    When God said to Moses, Tell them the great I am sent you, he expected Moses and the Children of Israel who were cavorting around the Golden Calf at the foot of the mountain down below to fill in the the great one's predicational information for themselves.

    Examples of predicational pruning are often produced by sundry transcendentalists anxious to disprove the rejection of the so-called verb /be/ as an instantiator of pure, un-essenced, un-propertied simple existence.
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    And there it is, bloody yams again!

    What is so important about this bloody starchy, tuberous root vegetable!?

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    So, you're saying that Popeye does, in FACT, like yams, is another Methuselah and played with the Israelites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    And there it is, bloody yams again!

    What is so important about this bloody starchy, tuberous root vegetable!?
    "I think therefore I yam."

    Descartes, examining the first Sweet Potato ever displayed at the Academie Francaise.

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    A yam of size so large was never seen
    Save once upon a summer evening sweet

    Iyambic Pentameter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    And there it is, bloody yams again!

    What is so important about this bloody starchy, tuberous root vegetable!?
    "I think therefore I yam."

    Descartes, examining the first Sweet Potato ever displayed at the Academie Francaise.

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    Now lets get back on the topics !
    Is Popeye banned in muslim countries ?
    I think he is !

    That drunken sailor is taking one shot of whiskey after another.
    (Infidels make us believe its spinach)
    He is a womanizer ! Chasing after that whore who can't make up her mind.
    (Infidels make believe he rescues her)
    Olive, playing the virgin, teasing with her looong skiny legs, making those poor martyres go crazy.
    (Infidels make us believe she one of the 72 virgins that you'll be getting)

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    Not for fainted hearts video. Muslims spreading love by stoning a teenager.


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    If ever i wanted to see the damage islam is doing, to thier own in this case, i have just seen it.

    On the beeb 5 years after the tsunami, Phuket and lampook, aceh.

    Phuket has had its problems but is back on track.

    Aceh had its problems, but with aid from muslim countries and western countries, built a new community with new houses, and things are looking good.

    They need tourism as they had before, they have no industry to support themselves, along come the clerics, blame all the troubles on the communities way of life and for not being fully commited to allah, impose sharia law along with back up from the sharia police, the area which was filled with easy going muslims that inhabitted the place before the tsunami are forced to leave.

    The beeb interviewed one lad, and he stated he was muslim and respected foriegners and thier religions, however now he is forced to change.

    He has left.

    Every single person lost family, they had a good community and now it is broken due to islam itself, ironic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post
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    You subscribe to snuff videos on facebook? Why am I not surprised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Now lets get back on the topics !
    Is Popeye banned in muslim countries ?
    I think he is !

    That drunken sailor is taking one shot of whiskey after another.
    (Infidels make us believe its spinach)
    He is a womanizer ! Chasing after that whore who can't make up her mind.
    (Infidels make believe he rescues her)
    Olive, playing the virgin, teasing with her looong skiny legs, making those poor martyres go crazy.
    (Infidels make us believe she one of the 72 virgins that you'll be getting)

    Link: www.infidelscantfoolsus.allah
    Dammit, I thought that green stuff he put in his pipe was weed. Green whiskey makes a lot more sense. It explains why it always made him want to fight instead of lie back, eat pizza, and watch children's tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Is Popeye banned in muslim countries ?
    I think he is !
    I don't think so . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Is Popeye banned in muslim countries ?
    I think he is !
    I don't think so . . .
    Bluto is a jihadi!


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    The swine . . .

    Ah, yet another example of technology catching up with the miscreants

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