Thread: FOX "news"

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it's not only un-American and traitorous, but an insult to Intelligence and Journalism

oh, oops...

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Low rent advertisement financed TV and journalism is as American as it gets. You cant blame everything on Murdoch.

the first sentence is the sort of uninformed tripe that pollutes this part of the forum.
what do you know about the history or journalism in the US? have you ever studied american journalism? have you ever lived in the US?
or do you consider yourself an expert on the topic because you have a UBC dish?

and secondly, it is widely recognized that journalism in the US took a decidedly revolting and downmarket turn once Murdoch's tentacles reached our shores.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by larvidchr

Low rent advertisement financed TV and journalism is as American as it gets. You cant blame everything on Murdoch.

the first sentence is the sort of uninformed tripe that pollutes this part of the forum.
what do you know about the history or journalism in the US? have you ever studied american journalism? have you ever lived in the US?
or do you consider yourself an expert on the topic because you have a UBC dish?

and secondly, it is widely recognized that journalism in the US took a decidedly revolting and downmarket turn once Murdoch's tentacles reached our shores.

I am 50 years old and have been watching American type entertainment and Politics and journalism, dressing style, crime style, music style, slowly try to creep in to my own country, if Murdoch has gotten his foot indoors in the US with a special brand of US media it was because it was more ripe for the taking than other places, although they call it Aussie and English I don't recall ever having seen anything no where near FOX when I was living in England, trying to wipe that special American flavour of on other nations is wrong, the overlying business principles of FOX might be the same as Murdoch use elsewhere, but content and presentation, personal styles is US all the way.

Politicians managed by spin-doctors with every word carefully choreographed, with impeccable backgrounds holding their impeccable wife's and children's hands delivering nothing but short type shallow easy digestible messages, is all the American (I want to puke) way, it rubs of in the whole way US media information is presented and belongs uniquely with US, it is rubbing of in Europe unfortunately.

You don't have to live in the US to follow what is going on there, the difference between the general knowledge about the going's on in other country's between Europeans and Americans are astonishing big, the Americans are generally way way behind on that score, even high up in politics and business.

Finally I don't consider myself an expert in anything but my former chosen trade, but I do have an personal opinion on things that interest me, it is my personal subjective take on things, that I have all the rights to air on this forum, if you don't like it I suggest you fuck off.

Says it all, don't it? BO's administration won't meet with FoxNews, but they will meet with the brutal regime of Myanmar (a.k.a. Burma).

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Says it all, don't it? BO's administration won't meet with FoxNews, but they will meet with the brutal regime of Myanmar (a.k.a. Burma).

And bow to Saudi Kings, dialogue with the Iranians, suck up to the Russians, give the Queen of England a pink IPOD.....


Hey maybe they scared the truth will come out if they meet with Fox news.

Originally Posted by raycarey

what do you know about the history or journalism in the US? have you ever studied american journalism?

And what are you the Siskel and Ebert of all subjects? You are so full of yourself it is absolutely sickening.

^^
You forgot fist-bumping with Hugo Chavez, support for that commie in Hondouras, allowing the USD to sink to new levels, pimping for ACORN...the list goes on.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^^
You forgot fist-bumping with Hugo Chavez, support for that commie in Hondouras, allowing the USD to sink to new levels, pimping for ACORN...the list goes on.

I did not forget it, just did not want to waste on wilted ears.

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^^
You forgot fist-bumping with Hugo Chavez, support for that commie in Hondouras, allowing the USD to sink to new levels, pimping for ACORN...the list goes on.

I did not forget it, just did not want to waste on wilted ears.

RA's probably scuttled off to his TEFLer class muttering about the vast right-wing conspiracy!

Well, this has turned into the usual circle jerk of FOX supporters whilst real American Conservatives are once again left out in the cold by the loonies running the GOP.

Originally Posted by chitown

Awesome, so your a fan of Fox!!

No, and it's "you're" not "your" if you want to use a contraction of "you are" but as a loyal Beckerhead I'm sure you knew that

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Yep, Rupert Murdoch has a global news network serving up lowest common denominator crap for the lowest common denominators (for the LCD's here, that means stupid shit for stupid people).

I'm troubled that anyone can defend Fox news or Rupert Murdoch. It is blatantly biased and designed for the non-questioning/thinking mindless masses.

I can defend Murdoch. He owns The Times which is one of the finest newspapers there is. Why he's not fucked it up before now is a complete mystery to me.

Heh...BO's REAL PROBLEM WITH FOX: “What most bothered the White House about Fox is that it caused inconvenient reporting by other news organizations. . . . In other words, their problem is not that Fox isn’t a real news organization, their problem is that it is.”

Originally Posted by lysander

I've only ever seen Fox News once.

Typical of most FNC critics.


They haven't a foking clue what they're talking about.

just out of curiosity earl, how many hours/week do you watch fox?

sorry, "FNC" :snigger:

^Not many lately. Having trouble focusing on your own topic amigo?
Ray are you also incapable of distinguishing between "commentary" and "news"?

Clearly FNC was far more objective than either MSNBC or CNN during the 2008 elections.


Recent coverage of Van Jones was interesting and embarrassing for everyone but Fox.

Originally Posted by raycarey

just out of curiosity earl, how many hours/week do you watch fox?

sorry, "FNC" :snigger:

Hey RA!

Check out Post #94 in this thread and get back to us.

That's a good boy...

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Clearly FNC was far more objective than either MSNBC or CNN during the 2008 elections.

Clearly you did not read the Pew Research Center report that featured the graph you cut and pasted, for it does not indicate that FOX is "far more objective" than MSNBC or CNN, far from it:

On Fox News, in contrast, coverage of Obama was more negative than the norm (40% of stories vs. 29% overall) and less positive (25% of stories vs. 36% generally). For McCain, the news channel was somewhat more positive (22% vs. 14% in the press overall) and substantially less negative (40% vs. 57% in the press overall). Yet even here, his negative stories outweighed positive ones by almost 2 to 1.

Of course there's going to be more negative stories about the McCain/Palin ticket, which even by Republican standards was one of the worst in history.

I think Rachel Maddow really nailed the issue, and so far I haven't seen anyone else with this perspective, including the WH. If you're interested in clarity, watch Maddow's piece.

The pertinent fact is this : FOX is openly organizing and promoting protests against the US government. This is unequivocably where they've crossed the line and discredited themselves as a legitimate news organization. They are a special interest and advocacy group and not a news organization.
Journalists don't make the news, they report it.

^ Sorry, maddow makes me ill.