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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Fox acknowledged “the Court’s rulings finding certain claims about Dominion to be false.”
    Fox, Tucker et al aside:

    Having followed this ..story unfold in the press with some schadenfreude, it also made me think back to when I got my scepticism towards..voting machines.

    2000 election in Florida

    Who could forget this scandal and (in my opinion then and now) robbery ?

    Firstly this:

    Historical Timeline of Electronic Voting Machines and Technology | by Carrie Jean Del Valle | Medium

    1988 — Report Warns of Problems with Pre-Scored Punch Cards
    Roy Saltman said in his report “Accuracy, Integrity, and Security in Computerized Vote-Tallying” that “the use of pre-scored punch cards contributes to the inaccuracy and to the lack of confidence. It is generally not possible to exactly duplicate a count obtained on pre-scored punch cards, given the inherent physical characteristics of these ballots and variability in the ballot-punching performance of real voters. It is recommended that the use of pre-scored punch card ballots be ended.” Despite his warning, use of punch card voting systems continues to be one of the biggest problems back in the 2000 US presidential elections.
    And this sealed the deal for me:

    Aug. 14, 2003 — Democrats Raise Questions of Propriety over Diebold Chief Executive’s Ties to George W. Bush
    “The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is ‘committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.’ The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O’Dell, chief executive of Diebold, Inc — who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush — prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O’Dell’s company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.”(“Voting Machine Controversy,” Cleveland Plain Dealer, Aug. 23, 2003)
    ^

    The republican electorate, who feel robbed, hasn't got it from strangers

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    Don Lemon says he's "stunned" after being let go at CNN. As if he's some working stiff that got fired from the mill. What an absolute tosspot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Tucker orf, I'm shattered who could possibly replace him as a Newswanchor Backspin?
    Umm ... what?

    All of Fox news is pro Ukraine war. I am not a retail level cuntservative. Havn't been for over a decade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Don Lemon says he's "stunned" after being let go at CNN. As if he's some working stiff that got fired from the mill. What an absolute tosspot.
    What does one have to do with the other, backspit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    And this sealed the deal for me:
    So you don't understand how voting machines work and you think they still use punched cards.

    Honestly, what a simpleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    All of Fox news is pro Ukraine war.
    You pathetic vatnik shit heel. The only scum that are pro war are idiots like yourself who are rooting for the ruzzians who illegally attacked a sovereign neighbor without provocation. If you are anti-war then tell the ruzzians to GTFO of Ukraine.

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    Fox Has a Secret ‘Oppo File’ to Keep Tucker Carlson in Check, Sources Say

    Fox News executives have in their possession a dossier of alleged dirt on Tucker Carlson should he attack the network in the wake of his departure, eight sources at and close to the network tell Rolling Stone.

    When Fox announced Carlson’s departure on Monday, the network presented the separation as amiable. But according to one former on-air Fox personality, the anchor and some of the channel’s top executives are parting ways on “the worst” and “messiest possible terms.” Indeed, in private communications released last month as part of the Dominion-Fox lawsuit, the now-fired Fox host gossiped that one such exec “hates us,” claiming she was covertly working against him and other hosts.

    But if Carlson attempts to torch the network he’s leaving, Fox is prepared, the sources say.

    Eight people familiar with the situation tell Rolling Stone that Fox News and its communications department — long led by the notoriously aggressive Irena Briganti — has assembled damaging information about Carlson. One source with knowledge calls it an “oppo file.” Two sources add that Fox is prepared to disclose some of its contents if execs suspect that Carlson is coming after the network.

    The file includes internal complaints regarding workplace conduct, disparaging comments about management and colleagues, and allegations that the now-former primetime host created a toxic work environment, three of the sources say. (Carlson is currently facing a lawsuit from a former senior booking producer, Abby Grossberg, alleging a toxic and misogynist workplace environment. The lawsuit details repeated instances of misogynist behavior at the network, including frequent lewd and sexual discussions of female guests and public figures. Grossberg, “continued to endure a work environment that subjugates women based on vile sexist stereotypes, typecasts religious minorities and belittles their traditions, and demonstrates little to no regard for those suffering from mental illness.” Fox denied the allegations when the lawsuits were filed, saying the claims were “without merit.”)

    A network spokesperson denied the existence of the file on Carlson. “This is patently absurd and categorically false,” the spokesperson said in a statement to Rolling Stone. “We thank Tucker for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor.”

    Many sources within the network disagree. “Irena will never be shy about using these things,” says one network source who is familiar with the Carlson-related complaints.

    Over the years, Briganti and Fox PR’s notoriously aggressive tactics have been turned against its own most prominent talent. For instance, The Daily Beast reported in 2018 that “​​emails reviewed and verified” by the outlet “show that Fox’s communications brass have planted negative stories about some of their own top stars, including hosts like Bill O’Reilly and Stuart Varney — the latter of whom is still a Fox employee.”

    Those methods for keeping personnel in line are an open secret among current and former Fox News staff. Four former Fox News personalities confirmed Briganti likes to keep “dirt files” on Fox News talent, including one on Carlson.

    An ex-Fox News anchor laments, “Irena tries to keep a file on everybody … Any talent like Tucker would have a lot of things; other people complaining. They encourage it and then just keep it on file. It’s just a classic dirty trick.”

    “[Briganti] keeps files on everybody to screw with them,” a departed Fox News host adds. “It’s classic Fox.”

    The sources say it was not clear what might prompt Briganti or Fox News to use the file. On Monday, it was revealed that Carlson had hired Bryan Freedman, a high-powered entertainment lawyer, to represent him following his Fox exit. Rolling Stone did not receive comment from Tucker Carlson at the time of this piece’s publication. Freedman did not respond to Rolling Stone’s request for comment.

    It’s also unclear what precisely triggered Carlson’s abrupt departure. In addition to the Grossberg suit, he was a prominent figure in Dominion Voting Systems’ legal action against Fox News, which the network settled for $787.5 million earlier this month. In the run-up to trial, it was revealed that Tucker had bashed top brass in text chats with fellow network talent.

    “Do the executives understand how much credibility and trust we’ve lost with our audience?” Carlson wrote, shortly after Fox News projected Joe Biden had beaten Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election. Regarding Fox News executives, Carlson also privately sniped: “A combination of incompetent liberals and top leadership with too much pride to back down is what’s happening.”

    Harshly trashing leadership is considered to be a major transgression at Fox News and Fox Business, where those who step out of line may find themselves on the receiving end of an unfavorable story.

    Fox News has a history of taking punitive measures against departed personnel. When Megyn Kelly left the network in 2017 to host a morning talk show on NBC, it was reported that Briganti tried to push stories about the cable news star’s poor television ratings at the time, as well as her asking a Will and Grace fan if the show led him to being gay. Kelly has spoken out against Briganti, publicly noting the Fox spokesperson’s “vindictiveness.” Briganti’s aggressive methods are widely known in the media. A 2016 New York Magazine titled “The Silencing of Fox News’ Powerful Publicist Irena Briganti” cited several then-Fox female employees who claimed, “one of the reasons they did not speak up about sexual harassment in the past was that they were terrified Briganti would find out and smear them in the press.”

    A current Fox News journalist says that Briganti won’t be afraid to use similar tactics against Carlson: “Irena is Fox’s fighter. She is very good at her job. I gotta believe she’s ready to fight Tucker if/when he takes this war publicly.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So you don't understand how voting machines work and you think they still use punched cards.
    I'm quite certain that helge is referring to the 'hanging chads' . . . in effect punchcards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    In March, Abby Grossberg, a producer who formerly worked on Carlson’s show, filed a suit saying that lawyers for the network “coached” and “intimidated” her into giving misleading testimony in the lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems. She also alleged a culture of sexism and misogyny at the network, and that executives tried to blame her and host Maria Bartiromo for the airing of 2020 election conspiracy theories.
    Abby Grossberg: Tucker Carlson made 'my life a living hell'



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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You pathetic vatnik shit heel. The only scum that are pro war are idiots like yourself who are rooting for the ruzzians who illegally attacked a sovereign neighbor without provocation. If you are anti-war then tell the ruzzians to GTFO of Ukraine.
    Lol without provocation my ass. The US literally provoked the war just as it is doing with Taiwan. After Xi says he will attack Taiwan if the US crosses certain lines, how could you possibly say said war will be unprovoked when the US knowingly crosses said lines?

    And the US would do the exact same if it's stated lines were crosses in Cuba. And if China crossed those lines , they'd be provoking war also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So you don't understand how voting machines work and you think they still use punched cards.
    I do ?

    Read the second quote again and it might give you a clue. Might
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Honestly, what a simpleton.


    That hurts coming from you

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I'm quite certain that helge is referring to the 'hanging chads' . . . in effect punchcards.
    I'm quite sure he is, that's the fucking point.

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    When you read this, you realise what an odious, money grubbing little c u n t the bloke actually is. Sadly there will be another poisonous arsehole along to fill the gap.

    Far right laments Tucker Carlson’s ouster and loss of its shot at the mainstream


    Fox News’ dismissal of top-rated host Tucker Carlson sent shock waves through mainstream and conservative media this week. But nowhere was Carlson’s loss felt more than on the fringe and right-wing websites and forums where so many of his narratives originated.

    On web shows and message boards, creators of hate and conspiracy theory content bemoaned the loss of Carlson and their path to a mainstream audience.

    “He amplified [my] reporting more than anyone else,” Darren Beattie, a blogger and purveyor of conspiracy theories related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, said Monday on a web show hosted by Turning Point USA President Charlie Kirk.

    “He was basically the only person on Fox who would dare to have me on, and I’m not the only case,” Beattie said. “There are other people, and nobody would dare let them on any other Fox show. But Tucker would have them on to say things that you won’t hear anywhere on American TV.”


    Carlson’s relationship to fringe figures on the far right was, in some ways, symbiotic. He would use his platform to attack institutions and people, unleashing a troll army drawn from the very ranks of the fringe right-wingers and 4Chan users who loved him — something the authors of this article have experienced on several occasions.


    Steve Bannon, a former top Trump aide who appeared Tuesday on Kirk’s show, said the “power of Tucker Carlson” was his ability to distill and package fringe political ideas to a new audience. Bannon said Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, the father and son
    who oversee Fox News’ parent company, fired Carlson to keep “those ideas [from] seeping into a more mainstream audience.”

    Those sentiments are backed up by academics and researchers who study how internet extremism makes its way into mainstream U.S. politics and culture. Carlson’s show repeatedly echoed conspiracy theories and disinformation that gained traction on extremist forums like 4chan — and that would otherwise not have appeared on Fox News.

    “Once a story reached Tucker Carlson, it was at the apex of conservative media, and Fox News is the voice of authority in conservative media,” said Robert Faris, a senior researcher at Harvard University’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, who studies networked digital technologies and media. “It let other people know that it’s OK to talk about these kinds of things in the language that they use. Just that it’s on the air, it’s ambient and it’s on in so many public spaces means that anything they platform has a wider reach than any of the more committed hyper-partisan sites.”


    A spokesperson for Fox News declined to comment beyond
    the statement the company issued announcing Carlson’s departure and thanking him for his work there.


    Carlson used his platform at Fox News to spread information that had been widely discredited.


    Carlson featured a segment this month claiming that Ukrainian casualties in the Russian invasion were widely underreported.
    He was citing an altered document that first appeared on 4chan and had been widely debunked before the segment aired.

    Days before that, Carlson devoted a segment to a 4chan hoax about a “Trans Day of Vengeance” that was being promoted on April Fools’ Day. As evidence, he aired a tweet from an anti-Black troll account whose name alludes to a racial slur.

    Carlson also used his platform to turn his audience on certain people. Most recently, Ray Epps, who has
    sought a retraction over Carlson’s false allegations that he worked for the federal government and helped incite the riot at the Capitol, said on CBS News’ “60 Minutes” that he believed Carlson was trying to destroy his life.


    The authors of this article saw that firsthand at times when Carlson aired segments about our reporting and even lobbed personal and professional attacks at us,
    alleging that legitimate reporting was an effort to ruin lives and that reporting on social media platforms was activism for censorship.

    Beyond the attacks and misinformation, Carlson also embraced some of the more extreme views of white supremacists.

    An analysis last year
    by The New York Times found that Carlson had repeatedly promoted a racist conspiracy theory known as the Great Replacement Theory, which posits that Jews and Democrats encourage immigration, feminism and gender nonconformity as part of a conspiracy to wipe out the white race. The analysis found he devoted at least 600 segments to white victimhood.


    Without Carlson, experts say, a sort of pipeline carrying misinformation and hateful ideologies from the fringes of the internet to a large national audience is now missing a crucial juncture.


    “Tucker Carlson often looks for relatively obscure figures and theories that are basically defenses of white supremacy and gender binary ideologies,” said A.J. Bauer, an assistant professor who studies right-wing movements and media at the University of Alabama.


    “He platforms those and finds ways of amplifying peculiar, narrow theories that don’t have a widespread circulation,” Bauer said. “Because of that, he’s been particularly dangerous with regard to the problems of misinformation and conspiracy thinking. These fringe and marginal figures who struggled to get mainstream media access saw Tucker Carlson as their route into the mainstream.”

    White supremacist message boards, which frequently watched along live with Carlson’s show, were overloaded with posts lamenting his firing.

    Users on the politics board on 4chan implored one another to “stop flooding the board” with new threads announcing his departure.

    “Tucker’s one of the last /ourguys/,” a 4chan user wrote, referring to a meme
    among white nationalists to identify fellow travelers online.


    “Bad times coming, anons. Been obvious for a while, but it seems to be reaching its apogee,” another 4chan user wrote.

    The “newslinks and articles” board on Stormfront, the web’s oldest self-identifying white nationalist message board, was flooded with new posts lamenting the cancellation of Carlson’s show.

    The forum’s posts usually struggle to crack double-digit replies, but a thread about the Carlson news had over 200 posts, many of which blamed his firing on an antisemitic conspiracy theory about control of the media.


    NBC News was unable to reach Carlson for comment. He did not respond to direct messages on Twitter, and messages left on cellphone numbers and at an email address associated with him were not answered.


    Other prominent white nationalists, like Nick Fuentes and the white supremacist website The Daily Stormer, brushed off Carlson’s impact, saying they do not believe his ability to “soft redpill” his audience — or slowly radicalize them into white supremacy — had a major impact.


    Eric Owens, who worked for Carlson for five years when Carlson was The Daily Caller’s editor-in-chief, said the future of the far right-to-mainstream pipeline depends on what Fox News executives decide to do next.


    “Are they actually worrying about making the country better and avoiding these lawsuits in the future, or are they just going to replace him with another newer, cheaper Tucker?” Owens said in an interview, referring to Dominion Voting Systems’ recent lawsuit against Fox.


    Owens, who has frequently renounced The Daily Caller’s current iteration, said Carlson noticeably changed between the time he began working at The Daily Caller in 2012 and when he left in 2018.


    “I don’t know what happened to Tucker,” Owens said. “I think the executives at Fox News just kind of lost control, and I think they’re scared.”


    Owens pointed to Carlson’s text messages unveiled in the Fox-Dominion trial, which cost the network $787 million to settle. In the texts, Carlson noted that telling the truth about the 2020 election was “measurably hurting the company” and noted that “the stock price is down” while insisting that the network should stop accurately reporting on the results.


    “They became a juggernaut, and then they realized they had to serve these really bad impulses,” Owens said of Fox News.

    Whether Fox News tries to reproduce the pipeline Carlson built or whether Carlson could rebuild it at another outlet remains to be seen.

    “The question becomes if the grievance machine is still going to need feeding and someone to feed it, what can Fox News add to that time slot?” Faris, of Harvard’s Shorenstein Center, asked. “How are they going to replace Tucker?”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...ster-rcna81595

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    With both Tucker the fat c u n t and Don Lemon the overbearing bully being sacked, NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell must be quite pleased his sacking went completely under the radar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Lol without provocation my ass. The US literally provoked the war just as it is doing with Taiwan.
    You are an epic level fuckwit who is spewing nonsensical propaganda. pootin was planing this war long before 2014. Go swallow some more propaganda, you dumb vatinik sheep.

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    Fox agrees to give more Murdoch docs to Smartmatic in its defamation case

    Fox News has agreed to provide voting technology company Smartmatic with additional material about its corporate chairman Rupert Murdoch and other top executives, as part of Smartmatic’s $2.7 billion lawsuit against the right-wing network.

    The agreement was announced Wednesday at a court hearing in Manhattan regarding the defamation case, which stems from Fox’s airing of 2020 election lies. New York Supreme Court Judge David Cohen scheduled the hearing after Smartmatic raised concerns about whether Fox was complying with its pretrial obligations to turn over relevant evidence.

    “We will produce the materials as quickly as we are able to,” Fox lawyer Winn Allen said.

    Fox also will give documents to Smartmatic related to Rupert Murdoch’s son Lachlan Murdoch, who is the CEO of Fox Corporation, as well as relevant materials about Chief Legal Officer Viet Dinh and Raj Shah, a former Trump administration official who is now a vice president at Fox Corporation

    These materials will include deposition transcripts and exhibits, apparently from the recently settled defamation case involving Dominion Voting Systems, a Smartmatic lawyer said in court.

    The judge had already agreed to a “broadening of discovery,” according to a ruling issued Tuesday, where he ordered Fox to make additional materials available, including information about the network’s 2020 ratings and about its internal fact-check team. But Smartmatic wanted more.

    In a letter to the judge, Smartmatic lawyers said they “noticed obvious gaps” among the records Fox Corporation has already provided. They claim the right-wing outlet might be holding back material about the Murdochs.

    Fox lawyers said in recent court filings that they’re complying with all court orders and pointed out that Fox Corporation has already produced more than 30,000 documents to Smartmatic.

    The monster case pits Smartmatic against Fox News, Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Fox hosts Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro, and former host Lou Dobbs, who all promoted the baseless lie that Smartmatic rigged the 2020 election. An appeals court recently dropped Fox Corporation as a defendant, but Smartmatic refiled its lawsuit and is trying to re-add the parent company.

    These figures falsely claimed Smartmatic was created to steal elections for former Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, and that a global cabal of Democrats and socialists used Smartmatic software to flip millions of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. (In truth, there wasn’t any widespread fraud in 2020, and Smartmatic’s machines were only used in one county that year.)

    With the Dominion litigation settled, Smartmatic’s suit is the biggest pending defamation case against Fox News. The global voting technology company wants $2.7 billion in damages. Fox denies wrongdoing and has accused Smartmatic of trying undermine the First Amendment.

    “We will be ready to defend this case surrounding extremely newsworthy events when it goes to trial, likely in 2025,” a Fox network spokesperson said in a statement. “As a report prepared by our financial expert shows, Smartmatic’s damages claims are implausible, disconnected from reality, and on its face intended to chill First Amendment freedoms.”
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    These figures falsely claimed Smartmatic was created to steal elections for former Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, and that a global cabal of Democrats and socialists used Smartmatic software to flip millions of votes from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. (In truth, there wasn’t any widespread fraud in 2020, and Smartmatic’s machines were only used in one county that year).
    Batshit crazy.

    Fox denies wrongdoing and has accused Smartmatic of trying undermine the First Amendment.
    Yeah, I don't think the First Amendment covers intentionally and knowingly lying to damage someone's business.

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    First video as an independent, 42 million views.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    First video as an independent, 42 million views.
    Just proves there are at least 42 million of your imbecilic brethren, willing to listen to his drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Just proves there are at least 42 million of your imbecilic brethren, willing to listen to his drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    First video as an independent, 42 million views.
    It's his own Twitter account . . . "First video as an independent" What a moron. There are literally millions of 'Independents' out there. They are also called 'Unemployed'. He has 4.7 million 'followers' and like Beachbound said - they're all like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Just proves there are at least 42 million of your imbecilic brethren, willing to listen to his drivel.
    No it just means that there were q lot of people curious to see what he had to say about his firing, I am sure his viewership will go down significantly .

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    ^Exactly. I listened to it yesterday and I don’t like him at all. I certainly won’t be following him on Twitter.

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    I wouldn't even bother watching to it. He's a fat, racist, lying c u n t.

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