Thread: Right-wing domestic terrorists

^ How many are on welfare?

How many poor folk are on welfare? Quite a lot i would imagine.

^ hehe I'll buy you a beer for that.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Armed man arrested at airport as Obama departs
When the officer asked what he was doing, McVey stated “he heard the president was in town. He stated he wanted to see the president,” according to a case summary

And so? What's your point? He was white? Musta been wearing a cross and praying to Jesus, too.

Oakland -- A 45-year-old parolee, described by his mother as angry at left-wing politicians, opened fire on California Highway Patrol officers on an Oakland freeway early Sunday and was hit by return fire while wearing body armor, authorities said.

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She said her son, who had been a carpenter and a cabinetmaker before his imprisonment, was angry about his unemployment and about "what's happening to our country."

Williams watched the news on television and was upset by "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," his mother said.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/18/BAG71EG92P.DTL#ixzz0u9iabPGY

Forgot to add this from the article linked above,……..

Janice Williams said she kept the guns because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." But she said she had told her son many times that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."

Originally Posted by sabang

^ Interesting enough, but clearly no case there that Obama is/was a terrorist sympathiser!

He has a "terrorist" sounding middle name and he's a nigger that spend 4 years in a Muzzie country. Surely that enough proof for anyone.

Well, shit like that will do for the mindless racist pillocks anyway.

^^^related to this ass,………

Hearing that 45-year-old Byron Williams, the heavily-armed and bulletproof-vested ex-con who got in a shootout this week with the California Highway Patrol after an I-580 traffic stop, was headed to the ACLU and The Tides Center to kill liberals made us wonder: how had this ignorant two-striker from Groveland who lived with his mom (and broke into her gun case to steal her guns for his aborted raid on liberal institutions) ever even heard of Tides?

Link: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/60987

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

What's your point?

Right-wing domestic terrorists,…as in the title of the thread.




This is part of an e-mail I received from Graysonforcongress. Just another example of a right-wing domestic terrorist at work.

Dear S L:

One day, a Republican operative offers $100 to anyone who'll punch me in the nose.

The next day, I get a death threat.

After Fox News spewed its usual clownish hatred about me yesterday, my office received a call. The caller told our receptionist - a young intern - that "10 people are going to kill the Congressman within 24 hours." We gave the information to the Capitol Police; they are investigating.

^ So, mebbe the guy turned muslim. Did they say? Hmm, is muslim right wing? Did he say he was a neo-nazi? Oh, is that right wing?
As for your precious email from that slob grayson, I've never heard a Congressman with more spittle to spew, except mebbe Franken. Poor little boys are always targets of imaginary romper room bullies.

As Media Matters reported, the conspiratorial host had mentioned (read: attacked) the little-known progressive organization nearly 30 times on his Fox program alone since it premiered in 2009, including several mentions in the last month. (Beck's the only TV talker who regularly references the foundation, according to our Nexis searches.)

So yes, Beck has done all he can to scare the hell out of people about the Tides Foundation and "turn the light of day" onto an organization that actually facilitates non-profit giving.

And guess what? Everybody in America would have found out about the Tides Foundation last week if Byron Williams had had his way. He's the right-wing, government-hating, gun-toting nut who strapped on his body armor, stocked a pickup truck with guns and ammo, and set off up the California coast to San Francisco in order to start killing employees at the previously obscure Tides Foundation in hopes of sparking a political revolution.

Thankfully, the planned domestic terrorist attack never came to pass because California Highway Patrol officers pulled Williams over for drunk driving on his way to his killing spree. Williams quickly opened fire, wounding two officers during a lengthy shootout. Luckily, Williams wasn't able to act out the ultimate goal of his dark anger -- fueled by the TV news he watched -- about how "Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," as his mother put it. Williams wasn't able to open fire inside the offices of the Tides Foundation, an organization "nobody knew" about until Glenn Beck started targeting it.

And thankfully, Williams wasn't able to take his place alongside a growing list of domestic, anti-government terrorists, such as the recent Pentagon shooter, the Holocaust Museum gunman, the kamikaze pilot who flew his plane into an IRS building in Austin, Texas, and the Pittsburgh cop-killer who set up an ambush because he was convinced Obama was going to take away his guns.

All the vigilante attacks appear to have been fueled by an almost pathological hatred for the U.S. government -- the same open hatred that right-wing bloggers, AM talk radio hosts, and Fox News' lineup of anti-government prophets have been frantically fueling for the last year, pushing doomsday warnings of America's democratic demise under President Obama.

And the sad truth is we're going to see more like Byron Williams. We're going to see more attempts at vigilante violence during the Age of Obama simply because the right-wing media, lead by Beck, continue to gleefully (albeit irresponsibly) stoke dangerous fires with the kind of relentlessly incendiary rhetoric that has no match in terms of modern day, mainstream use in American politics or media.

Just listen to Glenn Beck:

* Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent."

* "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter."

* "[Y]ou will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun" and "before I acquiesce and be silent."

* "This game is for keeps"; "[Y]ou can shoot me in the head ... but there will be 10 others that line up."

* "There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America"; "God help us in an emergency."'

And don't forget about the unhinged response when health care reform was passed in March: "Get down on your knees and pray. Pray. It's September 11th all over again, except that we didn't have the collapsing buildings." After financial reform passed last week, Beck told his audience, "Your republic is over."

Meanwhile, Andrew Breitbart's website recently tagged Obama as the "suicide-bomber-in-chief," while the conservative Washington Times just last week published an op-ed -- by a former congressman, no less -- asserting the president poses more of a threat to America than al Qaeda.

Note that the radical right's media rhetoric is no longer even political in a partisan sense. Instead, it's purely revolutionary. It isn't, "We think taxes should be lower" or "Obama should be more hawkish overseas." It's, "There's an insidious and deadly plot afoot by Democrats and progressives to strip Americans of their freedom and this country of its greatness." Obama is now the incarnation of evil (the Antichrist?), and his driving hatred for America, as well as for democracy, runs so deep that he ran for president in order to destroy the United States from inside the Oval Office.

Rush Limbaugh: "Our country is being overthrown from within."

And this summer, the latest toxic twist to that line of attack is that Obama is destroying America on purpose in order to exact revenge from white America for the historic sin of slavery. (Think: Black Manchurian Candidate.) The GOP Noise Machine is now mixing a vile cocktail by stirring revolutionary rhetoric with hateful race-baiting.

It's impossible to argue that today's avalanche of insurrectionist rhetoric doesn't have a real world effect. Or that those on the fringes don't find comfort in seeing and hearing their worst fears legitimized on AM radio and Fox News.

Eric Boehlert: Glenn Beck's Incendiary Angst Is Dangerously Close to Having a Body Count


I can't argue with the last paragraph- would this lunatic have tried to mass murder employees of the Tides Foundation if it hadn't been repeatedly plugged on Beck? Of course not- the hick would never even of heard of them. I barely have.

A very small, radical fringe, but there are indeed 'Right wing domestic Terrorists' in the States. Fortunately most of them are stoopid. What both bemuses and puzzles me is the surest way to get these hicks up in arms is the threat of 'taking away their guns'. Obama has made no such 'threat'.

^ Too funny. I'm laughing again at the Huff'n'Puff rants. So, you want to keep people blinkered from the truth? Geez, good thing some Jews believed the truth and got out before Hitler did you know what.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

so, you want to keep people blinkered from the truth?

I certainly don't- but it's certainly not the Truth that the Tides Foundation is some Marxist plot for world domination, or whatever Beck was ranting about. It is however 'Libbie', Progressive, or whatever you wanna call it.

When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter et al, become Incitement to Violence or Hate? Tough question.

^ How about the hate incitement promoted by the New Black Panthers, the NAACP etc? Lots of hatred to go around.

Originally Posted by sabang

When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter et al, become Incitement to Violence or Hate? Tough question.

Very difficult, especially when they couch it in innuendo, suggestion and implication. Palin's use of the word "targeting" certain districts and putting them in crosshairs is pretty close to borderline, IMO, and it caught the attention of people as being so.

There are other ways of inciting the wing nuts, and everybody knows it only takes one to kill someone. Using racist images of Obama as a Witch Doctor as seen during the health care fight and calling him "field hand" make his existance as president questinoable. Trying to deligetimize Obama with bogus questions about well proven questions such as his birth certificate or religeon is another way of accessing those with racial hatred without directly appealing to them. Suggestions of seccession by the Texas Governor is an indication of the extremes that they think are necessary. Hell, if the Gov. of Texas thinks we ought to succeed, maybe it is time for extreme action. What they all appeal to and seek to stoke is fear. That makes a good wedge, and a wedge is all they've got since it certainly isn't in their record of governance or the policies they inflicted on the country that will get them and their kind elected.

The problem is complicated by the fact that Beck, Coulter and Limbaugh (though L defines himself as an entertainer) are involved in Politcal speech, so crossing the line into incitement is even harder, I would think.

Considering that the country is in two wars right now, it's amazing they aren't seen as treasonous, since this is what the word the right used to refer to 60's progressives for criticism of a President or even Policy in a time of war.

JMO Personally, I think all Americans are going nuts nowadays. Everyone is lost in their own person ideology. If Hate could be measured, I'd say its higher than ever in the US. I won't use the word terrorists to describe these hateful people. There are people going over the edge on both ends. I expect some real violence on the way connected to all the failures affecting the US right now. Immigration, jobs, racism, war, the debt, haves verses havenots, the state of American media, the environment, etc.

Both extremes are wrong about some things. Everything one side believes cannot be true yet both sides seem absolute in their beliefs. It's troubling. As I said I expect more violence. I don't know the solutions but I sure the feel the stress and pain those who claim to have solutions feel. Where is the US going?

Treason? Yep, I would call what obama is doing to the Republic as treasonous.

When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter et al, become Incitement to Violence or Hate? ( 30-07-2010, 08:28 AM / Sabang )
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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ How about the hate incitement promoted by the New Black Panthers, the NAACP etc? Lots of hatred to go around.

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Green for you Jet Gorgon, to admit there are similitudes between extremists like the New Black Panthers and individuals as Beck, Coulter, Limbaugh.

Originally Posted by sabang

When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter et al, become Incitement to Violence or Hate? Tough question.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ How about the hate incitement promoted by the New Black Panthers, the NAACP etc? Lots of hatred to go around

The et. al. in Sabang's original question would include the Black Panthers and the NAACP. If you think there's a case to be made using these two groups then perhaps, you should start a thread call Left Wing Domestic Terrorists and see where it goes. This one is Right Wing Domestic Terrorists, so Sabang's original question can't be dodged so easily: When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh and Coulter become an incitement to violence?

Originally Posted by MrG

The et. al. in Sabang's original question would include the Black Panthers and the NAACP. If you think there's a case to be made using these two groups then perhaps, you should start a thread call Left Wing Domestic Terrorists and see where it goes. This one is Right Wing Domestic Terrorists, so Sabang's original question can't be dodged so easily: When does partisan rhetoric a la Beck, Limbaugh and Coulter become an incitement to violence?

Oh really? His et al includes the black groups? In a right-wing terrorist thread? So, you are saying these groups are right-wing then? Ya, I would agree with you that black pimps with gobs of bling who support these groups are capitalists.
Speaking the truth incites people to violence? Possibly. I'm glad the pre-Revolutionary leaders spoke out against the insanity and rape of the country by King George, and people took up arms.
Sane Americans don't want Euro rules and their welfare state regulations now either. Look at these policemen in France. Just doing their job cleaning out these mostly illegal immigrants from their squats. Are they right-wing terrorists? Great setup -- the women dragging their kids out so the lefty cameraman could get some nice shots of the kids on the street. You and your ilk make me sick playing this sob story crap. Get legal and go get a fekin job is what I say to all of them. No wonder Euro is in the toilet.