The strongest economy in the world

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Kerux,

It it happens, then it happens. I'm a proud American now ... and I'll still be a proud American.

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You americans are so violent:

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9 people dead, more than 40 injured in battle over tin mine.

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Bolivian Mining Groups Declare Truce - washingtonpost.com

Also, you environmental record sucks:

Amazon Destruction

And your hunam rights record sucks, but that's because you are communists:

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Hundreds of peaceful opponents of the government remained behind bars, and many more were subject to short-term detentions, house arrest, surveillance, arbitrary searches, evictions, travel restrictions, politically-motivated dismissals from employment, threats, and other forms of harassment.

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Human Rights Watch World Report 2001: Cuba: Human Rights Developments

Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

And you attacked the Falkland Islands, but we Europeans kicked your ass out of there.:finger: ;)

American - hah!! I fart in your general direction! :cool:

You fart into the wind sir.

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And you attacked the Falkland Islands, but we Europeans kicked your ass out of there

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:) I'll leave that one to someone else.

:fart:

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Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Let's leave this one for Marmite the geography major.

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Woke up again today proud as hell to be an Christian. Slept well knowing Jesus is The Lord. Also helps knowing there are good men like the Pope standing the watch in other parts of the world.

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Kerux, is that you ????

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Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Canada. Probably the best country in America with Argentina

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Originally Posted by mad_dog

I am no economist but: tax cuts and increased government spending = defecit.

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Sadly the Republicans in Washington calling themselves 'conservatives' have forgotten about that.

Cutting taxes and cutting spending is OK.

I forgot where I read this but if you give a private business a dollar you're likeky to end up with about $1.25 in return. Give the government a dollar and you get about 75 cents in return.

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Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Let's leave this one for Marmite the geography major.

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Come on - Quebec is in America, and you have stated you are proud to be an American.

Can't handle the truth, ah?:cool:

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Originally Posted by Storekeeper

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Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Let's leave this one for Marmite the geography major.

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Come on - Quebec is in America, and you have stated you are proud to be an American.

Can't handle the truth, ah?:cool:

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Sanuck Canuck is gonna throttle you for that one ! :1st:

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Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Canada. Probably the best country in America with Argentina

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I bet Hugo Chavez is proud to be an American as well, as is Castro - so SK is in good company!:cool:

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Worst of all, you have whole cities were people speak French, such as Quebec.

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Canada. Probably the best country in America with Argentina

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I bet Hugo Chavez is proud to be an American as well, as is Castro - so SK is in good company!:cool:

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Butterfly be rescuin' yer ass ? :)

Federal Deficit Lowest In Four Years...

By Matt Margolis

"Thus proving -- once again -- that the tax cuts are working, and they do not cause deficits.

The federal budget deficit, helped by a gusher of tax revenues, fell to $247.7 billion in 2006, the smallest amount of red ink in four years.


The deficit for the budget year that ended Sept. 30 was 22.3 percent lower than the $318.7 billion imbalance for 2005, handing President Bush an economic bragging point as Republicans go into the final four weeks of a battle for control of Congress.

Bush called the 2006 outcome a "dramatic reduction" in the deficit which allowed him to fulfill his 2004 campaign pledge of cutting the deficit in half earlier than his original 2009 target date.

"These numbers show that we have now achieved our goal of cutting the federal deficit in half and we've done it three years ahead of schedule," Bush told reporters at a Rose Garden news conference. "The budget numbers are proof that pro-growth economic policies work."

Sorry, ... Bush was right."

Sk, I think you should quote the Bible instead, you would be more effective in your arguments.

^Delusional.

From 1989-2001 the total federal debt increased by $3 trillion.

From 2001-2006 the federal debt increased by over $3 trillion more.

You realize, of course, by putting off spending by one fiscal year it magically makes the current one look better?

Uh, huh. Great policy.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...32ja06.txt.pdf

All you need to do sursak is cite your credentials and I'd be inclined to consider your opinion credible.

I'll take the dude with the MBA over some anonymous cyber poster 24/7 365.

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Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Federal Deficit Lowest In Four Years...

By Matt Margolis

"Thus proving -- once again -- that the tax cuts are working, and they do not cause deficits.

The federal budget deficit, helped by a gusher of tax revenues, fell to $247.7 billion in 2006, the smallest amount of red ink in four years.


The deficit for the budget year that ended Sept. 30 was 22.3 percent lower than the $318.7 billion imbalance for 2005, handing President Bush an economic bragging point as Republicans go into the final four weeks of a battle for control of Congress.

Bush called the 2006 outcome a "dramatic reduction" in the deficit which allowed him to fulfill his 2004 campaign pledge of cutting the deficit in half earlier than his original 2009 target date.

"These numbers show that we have now achieved our goal of cutting the federal deficit in half and we've done it three years ahead of schedule," Bush told reporters at a Rose Garden news conference. "The budget numbers are proof that pro-growth economic policies work."

Sorry, ... Bush was right."

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For those that don't know about the area in which storekeeper lives, Bremerton;
it's VERY conservative. It's in the middle of 3 major naval sites and is referred to as 'The Land of Limbaugh'.

The per capita ditto-head density there exceeds even the deep south. He is the norm in his views there. Even the working poor there (without medical coverage) will parrot the corporate line.

So now that you know where he gets his rose colored glasses vis-a-vis the bush economy, be understanding, be kind.

The vast majority of workers in the USA are working more, working harder, and working for less. Conservatives neglect to adjust for costs of living when praising the corporate profiteering that have the numbers up. The majority of the bush tax cut went to the very top percentile of income earners. The rest got a crumb and will pay the resulting massive debt for the wealthiest Americans.

If 3 yardbirds were sitting in a bar and Bill Gates walks in, the average income in that bar is pretty damn good!

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All you need to do sursak is cite your credentials and I'd be inclined to consider your opinion credible.

I'll take the dude with the MBA over some anonymous cyber poster 24/7 365.

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Too bothered to read an official government reports? Where do you think the MBA gets his data from?

You can't get any more non-biased than what I posted above.

Read the PDF and then feel free to then make comments.

BTW, is this the same Crutsinger who has been known to post erroneous information in the past?

Is The AP's Martin Crutsinger Lowballing Economic Growth Expectations? | NewsBusters.org

AP's Martin Crutsinger Botches Story on November Construction Spending | NewsBusters.org

Bizzyblog » The Jobless Claims Report: AP’s Martin Crutsinger Discounts the Present, and Gets the Past Wrong

Yeah, I'll trust the government's sources over some anonymous clown with a fake MBA.

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For those that don't know about the area in which storekeeper lives, Bremerton; it's VERY conservative. It's in the middle of 3 major naval sites and is referred to as 'The Land of Limbaugh'.

The per capita ditto-head density there exceeds even the deep south. He is the norm in his views there. Even the working poor there (without medical coverage) will parrot the corporate line.

So now that you know where he gets his rose colored glasses vis-a-vis the bush economy, be understanding, be kind.

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Another genius troll in the forum. Bremerton is a solid Democrat county headed by good ole Norm Dicks (D). Not only that but the state of Washington has been pretty solid Democrat for years ... hopefully that will start to change with the Senate this year.

I'm born and raised in Ohio ... that's where I got my solid Republican roots. Give credit where credit is due.

Amazing though how we have all these huge military bases in solid Democrat states like Washington, California, Hawaii ... I think you left wingers are being sold a bill of goods by your elected representatives.

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Yeah, I'll trust the government's sources over some anonymous clown with a fake MBA.

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Subtlety flies right over your head ... I was talkin' 'bout GWB. :D

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All you need to do sursak is cite your credentials and I'd be inclined to consider your opinion credible.

I'll take the dude with the MBA over some anonymous cyber poster 24/7 365.

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And your "take" of the due with the MBA is quite selective, isn't it?


You've got to look at the big picture when it comes to the deficit.


There will be tens of millions of boomer hitting the "rail" soon.

Current account deficit is widening ever year also.

Since math is so difficult:

During the Clinton years the debt went up from $4.3 trillion to $5.6 trillion (an increase of $1.3 trillion over 8 years). Under Bush it has gone from $5.7 trillion to $8.6 trillion, an increase of almost $3 trillion in less than 6 years. Yeah, looks like the Bush plan is working!

https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...10610/debt.jpg

I guess it all depends on which side of the fence you're on. If I were a Democrat I'd be bragging how GWB has cut the deficit in half in such a relatively short time.

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I guess it all depends on which side of the fence you're on. If I were a Democrat I'd be bragging how GWB has cut the deficit in half in such a relatively short time.

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I have said this many times.

The last several decades of the American economy do NOT have anything to do with the 2 American political parties.

It's not about D and R.

You've got to look at the big picture both short, medium, and long-term.

The deficit goes down in 4 ways:

1. Increased taxes.
2. Decreased spending.
3. Overstating a future deficit so that a lower deficit actually looks good.
4. Moving spending around from one fiscal year to another, or, from from non-discretionary spending to discretionary spending.

Now, if tax revenues are increasing what does that tell you? That tells you that taxes are increasing. How can taxes be lowered but revenues are going up? Only because more taxes are being paid. Hook, line, and sinker with you guys who really think that the 2003 tax cuts actually cut taxes.

I know you''re a big fan of Heritage's prior report on U.S. military recruiting, so, surely you will read this:

Runaway spending: Left unchecked, Washington's overspending could drown America in taxes and debt

What should really send shivers up people's spines are these facts:

Social Security spending is forecast to double from 2006-2016. Medicare will triple in cost, and, Medicaid will double.

And all that debt Bush is running up is costing us $220 billion per year.

"The federal budget deficit, helped by a gusher of tax revenues, fell to $247.7 billion in 2006, the smallest amount of red ink in four years. "

Boasting of a federal deficit of only 247.7 billion is the ultimate double speak.