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    Another month another decline from the "hoped for" economic miracle the POTUSE predicted. A non-positive move from 2.5 - 3.0% GDP growth, to the now forecast 0.6%


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Another month another decline from the "hoped for" economic miracle the POTUSE predicted. A non-positive move from 2.5 - 3.0% GDP growth, to the now forecast 0.6%
    0.6%

    Is very low, but that's below the average with is around 1.6% or so.

    I expect low GDP growth for some years to come.

    And these "forecasts."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Another month another decline from the "hoped for" economic miracle the POTUSE predicted. A non-positive move from 2.5 - 3.0% GDP growth, to the now forecast 0.6%

    Please put up a link.

    I goggled this stat you put up cannot find anything.

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    Link as post No. 3004


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    paper tiger...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    I goggled this stat you put up cannot find anything.
    try google.

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    Schiff may (or may not have a point). But he is noting things that the mainstream media is ignoring.

    Peter Schiff Warns This One Event Will Wipe Out Entire Generations of Retirees

    https://moneymorning.com/2017/04/17/...s-of-retirees/

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    Has the economy collapsed yet? Just askin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
    Schiff may (or may not have a point). But he is noting things that the mainstream media is ignoring.

    Peter Schiff Warns This One Event Will Wipe Out Entire Generations of Retirees

    https://moneymorning.com/2017/04/17/...s-of-retirees/
    I agree with some of Schiff's ideas, such as over regulation and long term expansion of the money supply, but his main message is gloom and doom. Add Marc Farber and too a degree Jim Rogers.

    I'd rather learn from Warren Buffet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
    Schiff may (or may not have a point). But he is noting things that the mainstream media is ignoring.

    Peter Schiff Warns This One Event Will Wipe Out Entire Generations of Retirees

    https://moneymorning.com/2017/04/17/...s-of-retirees/
    I agree with some of Schiff's ideas, such as over regulation and long term expansion of the money supply, but his main message is gloom and doom. Add Marc Farber and too a degree Jim Rogers.

    I'd rather learn from Warren Buffet
    After (casually) following Schiff, Faber and Rogers since at least 2009, I see them the say way a you do.

    Their message never changes: gloom & doom.

    Then they explain all of the reasons. The things they explain (or actually, just tell us) are indeed facts that are happening.

    It's what, if anything, will be the result of these things they constantly refer.

    I think think Schiff expanded his audience with his debate with Art Laffur in 2006 when Schiff predicted the crash and said things were not going well - not well at all.

    Schiff was correct.


    Is he correct now? Faber and Rogers?


    I suppose we'll have to wait a couple or few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Has the economy collapsed yet? Just askin.
    Not yet, apparently.



    "The Chinese economy expanded 6.9 percent year-on-year in the March quarter of 2017, compared to a 6.8 percent growth in the fourth quarter 2016 and slightly above market consensus of a 6.8 percent growth. It was the strongest expansion since the September quarter 2015, supported by faster rises in industrial output, retail sales and fixed-asset investment while fiscal spending surged. For 2017, the Chinese government expects the economy to grow by around 6.5 percent; compared to a 6.7 percent expansion in 2016, which was the slowest growth in 26 years. GDP Annual Growth Rate in China averaged 9.74 percent from 1989 until 2017, reaching an all time high of 15.40 percent in the first quarter of 1993 and a record low of 3.80 percent in the fourth quarter of 1990."

    China GDP Annual Growth Rate | 1989-2017 | Data | Chart | Calendar
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    Is this the thread with all the graphs that nobody looks at?

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    As the Clinton campaign, DNC, and mainstream media repeatedly told us:

    "Things are going great in America."


    U.S. Economy Grew 0.7% in First Quarter, Slowest in Three Years
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    April 28, 2017

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...in-three-years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    U.S. Economy Grew 0.7% in First Quarter, Slowest in Three Years
    Perhaps due to the POTUS's order: stop the ships with containers coming daily to US coast, make more jobs for US people...

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    ^And perhaps pigs might fly.

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    Putting the numbers in a visual chart:


    Billionaire Investor Paul Tudor Jones Says Stock Market Valuation Is “Terrifying”
    May 2, 2017 by The Doc




    As you can see, the value of stocks in the US is higher now than at any time in history versus GDP.





    Billionaire Investor Paul Tudor Jones Says Stock Market Valuation Is ?Terrifying? | Silver Doctors

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    Have any numbers of the revenue/debt number per employed ameristani?

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    Probably find those on the debt clock. Got to have quick eyes the numbers change so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Another month another decline from the "hoped for" economic miracle the POTUSE predicted. A non-positive move from 2.5 - 3.0% GDP growth, to the now forecast 0.6%
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    As you can see, the value of stocks in the US is higher now than at any time in history versus GDP.
    And yet stock market continues its meteoric rise. Based on....well, seems to me its pretty much based on nothing other than being the only game in town at this point. Certainly not based on any sort of rational fundamentals.

    Low interest rates can only hold up a house of cards for so long. History provides plenty of guidance for what comes next. Just a waiting game at this point....

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Another month another decline from the "hoped for" economic miracle the POTUSE predicted. A non-positive move from 2.5 - 3.0% GDP growth, to the now forecast 0.6%
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    As you can see, the value of stocks in the US is higher now than at any time in history versus GDP.
    And yet stock market continues its meteoric rise. Based on....well, seems to me its pretty much based on nothing other than being the only game in town at this point. Certainly not based on any sort of rational fundamentals.

    Low interest rates can only hold up a house of cards for so long. History provides plenty of guidance for what comes next. Just a waiting game at this point....
    Exactly.

    It is a waiting game....

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    Low interest rates can only hold up a house of cards for so long. History provides plenty of guidance for what comes next. Just a waiting game at this point....
    President 'Herbert Hoover II' Trump?


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    Trump inherited this, like most other Presidents. He will not fix it, but also cannot fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Trump inherited this, like most other Presidents. He will not fix it, but also cannot fix it.
    The pissed on orange haired potuse did not inherit it, he adopted and continues to promote the failed policies, he promised/campaigned to solve it. He swore an oath when elected he has shown the falseness, once again, of the ameristani political system.

    Many people do not want to wait, cannot afford to wait, will starve/die/kill before his "promises" are delivered.

    But as others have illustrated what else can a POTUSE candidate do but lie. Why, because "it's worth it to him personally".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    Low interest rates can only hold up a house of cards for so long. History provides plenty of guidance for what comes next. Just a waiting game at this point....
    President 'Herbert Hoover II' Trump?


    Clarification: What happened in 1929(and after) had more to do with the actions of the bankster lackeys at the US 'Federal' Reserve than it had to do with anything Hoover did. Lets see what the lackeys do this go around...
    Eat the Elephant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Trump inherited this, like most other Presidents. He will not fix it, but also cannot fix it.
    The pissed on orange haired potuse did not inherit it, he adopted and continues to promote the failed policies, he promised/campaigned to solve it. He swore an oath when elected he has shown the falseness, once again, of the ameristani political system.

    Manu people do not want to wait, cannot afford to wait, will starve/die/kill before his "promises" are delivered.

    But as others have illustrated what else can a POTUSE candidate do but lie. Why, because "it's worth it to him personally".
    Nice drunken post with no specifics.

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