It sounded negative.
Like, you think I should be euthanized even if I wasn't a veggie.
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It sounded negative.
Like, you think I should be euthanized even if I wasn't a veggie.
Hmm........negative.......you may be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
Nevertheless, I personally would hate to see you go even though you may be a veggie.
I would hate to see you suffer, that's for sure!
^ OK.
As long as you're still on my side. Cool.
Hugs.
But this is a circle. There are no sides!
You can always count on me being in your corner Milky (even if we don't have corners!) *konfused*
Anyhow, 2 different themes have come up:
the right to decide to end one's own life and leaving instructions to that effect in case of getting into a koma or similar - I support this, and indeed, there are lobbying organisations for legalising this, in Germany for example.
Euthanasia is not the same, as someone makes a decision on behalf of someone else who is not capable of it - this is a dodgy area, as has been discussed already, who should be authorised to make such decision, if anyone at all? Relatives may have one set of motives, doctors and lawyers another one.
Like some others here, I have lost close family to cancer and the experience is not pleasant for anyone, so the option of euthanasia seems initially attractive.
But my concerns are that one the principal is introduced it may become a policy, with the choice taken out of the hands of the individual or possibly the family. Or what type of pressure can be brought to bear to get a reluctant family to agree to euthanasia that they might otherwise reject.
"I am sorry Mr Jones but we have done all we can for your mother and now we need the bed for victims of a road accident that has just come in."
or
"I am sorry Mr Jones but as you refuse to accept the hopelessness of your mother's condition we must reluctantly starting charging you for her bed space and treatment."
Perhaps better to leave things as they are. My own father was on constant morphine for the last few weeks of his life. Did the nurse ever so slightly overestimate the dose on that final occasion? Who knows?
I believe in euth everywhere. Not just in asia.
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"I am sorry Mr Jones but as you refuse to accept the hopelessness of your mother's condition we must reluctantly starting charging you for her bed space and treatment."
Frankly, I believe the financial aspect will come increasingly to the foreground, even in some comparatively wealthy Western nations.
It has been quite a luxury to be able to keep terminally ill 'vegetables' artificially alive for extended periods of time.
My mother-in-law passed away from cancer last year, here in Thailand. She spent her last two weeks at home, which is what she wanted. She could have been kept 'alive' for a few more days in hospital, but all of us agreed to let her reach the end in a dignified fashion.
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REALLY?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
Or is that something you believe?
But God has absolute power, has he not?
If people decide to go with mercy killings, those killings would surely also be the will of God?
^
That's too simplistic.
Not everything people do is the will of god, according to believers, he is 'testing' us by presenting choices.
It takes a greater faith(or perhaps supreme arrogance) to believe there is no god than it takes to believe in a god.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milkman
I do remember something like that from the Sunday school I never went to, now that you mention it. Like Yob.Quote:
Originally Posted by stroller
Why does he have to test us then? Doesnt he already know what we will choose?
I don't know.
It's the sort of question I was pondering at Sunday school, but haven't found an answer to.
But Euthanasia isn't just a religious issue, though some Christians seem to have a view with a passion on this.
it's a religious issue actually. Everything about death has to do with religion or God. Nobody can say here what there is after death and that alone is a statement that we believe that there might be something after death. That something obviously has to do with some religious belief.
Well, coming from a non-religious angle on that one, I am not in principle against Euthanasia, but the question who decides and by which criteria is critical.
I think it is actually practiced to a greater degree than we all think, although it is taboo and illegal in most places, so if somebody has been involved in such a decision they would never say so - because it would be considered manslaughter or murder.