Seriously, why do people seem to hate "Jews"

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10-12-2008, 10:37 AM
spiff

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Originally Posted by sabang

It has a history of friction and litigation with the neighbouring communities

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but I can see that this crowd would be fairly demanding neighbours for several reasons, one being that they are a major drain on the welfare finances of the county and state.

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They also have major disputes with the surrounding communities and the County they are in. Hardly conforms to stereotype though does it

Hmm.
It conforms rather well to the image of the mean-spirited leeches who live at others' expense and sue everybody in sight.

There isn't just the one stereotype of the rich scheming Zionist, he has lower class brethren who are less skilled in veiling their evil intend and closeness to the animal kingdom in conduct.

After all they are relatives of the smelly raghead Arabs who equally comprise of the base and brute masses with openly displayed and acted upon ill-intend towards humanity, and those who mask their true nature behind a fassade of wealth, education and an assumed appearance of being 'moderates'.

:p
10-12-2008, 10:40 AM
spiff

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

So, do we observed or view Judaism and Jews as a spiritual indentity or a political place?

As a people, neither a religious, racial and least of all political identity.
10-12-2008, 10:45 AM
sabang

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Originally Posted by spiff

people

How do you define a 'people' then. Culturally? Shared history/mythology?
10-12-2008, 11:00 AM
Rural Surin

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Originally Posted by spiff

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

So, do we observed or view Judaism and Jews as a spiritual indentity or a political place?

As a people, neither a religious, racial and least of all political identity.

Uh huh...as a people. The Chosen Ones? Not in today's indoctrined consciousness. Purely a political identity.
10-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Rural Surin

smelly raghead arabs?
10-12-2008, 11:18 AM
spiff

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people

How do you define a 'people' then. Culturally? Shared history/mythology?

It is not my place to define Jewishness, however the concept of "a people" seems widely accepted by the Jewish community.

The Israel MFA's website gives a workable definition:
"For the purposes of this Law, "Jew" means a person who was born of a Jewish mother or has converted to Judaism and is not a member of another religion."
10-12-2008, 11:21 AM
spiff

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

smelly raghead arabs?

Note the smilie at the end of my post. Just kidding around in the general spirit of the previous batch of comments.

I apologise if I have caused offense with anything I posted.
10-12-2008, 11:24 AM
Rural Surin

Matriarchal and matrilineal....
10-12-2008, 11:47 AM
sabang

I think, to what extent a jewish person identifies with another jewish person would require a fair amount of study and honest feedback. It is easy when you are dealing with two people of the same nationality and background, perhaps who attend the same synagogue.

But what does a Hassidic jew feel he has in common with a secular jew, say working in Wall St or Hollywood? A right wing Settler with an ultra orthodox anti-Zionist? Caucasian Askenazi with Semitic Sephardim, or even a black Ethiopian jew? Religious with agnostic or atheist? Orthodox with Reform? Born with converted? And so on.

A 'people' perhaps, but a very diverse and disparate people in many respects.
10-12-2008, 12:21 PM
Cujo

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Originally Posted by Rural Surin

So, do we observed or view Judaism and Jews as a spiritual indentity or a political place?

or race?
10-12-2008, 12:25 PM
Texpat

Most of the jews I've met have been smart, shrewd, wealthy and cultured.
I've never seen the dirty, angry, aggressive types some people here describe. Or maybe I have, but assumed they were british. :)
10-12-2008, 01:53 PM
spiff

It is a stereotype which has been described.

But in reality, I am sure you are right, Jews are smart, shrewd, wealthy and cultured, and Brits dirty, angry, aggressive types. :rolleyes:
10-12-2008, 01:59 PM
Norton

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Originally Posted by Texpat

I've never seen the dirty, angry, aggressive types some people here describe. Or maybe I have, but assumed they were british.

Sure wouldn't fancy being a universally hated British Jew.:)
10-12-2008, 02:20 PM
a. boozer

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Originally Posted by Gallowspole

My first experience of Jew hating came from my grandparents. In their words, Britain had given them haven when Hitler turned on them, they were fed and housed and didn't fight. For the British population food rationing and economic hardship lasted well into the 50's but the Jews were eating bananas and running the black market in 1946 due to their networks.

Gallowspole. Unfortunately , I have only just come across this thread.
Your grandparents had probably never visited any of the many War Graves throughout Europe and else where, where there are many people of the Jewish Faith interred. The American Cemetery at Omaha Beach probably holds the remains of more followers of Judaism than any other single war cemetery. If anyone has any doubts on the matter, then I would humbly suggest a trip to and a slow walk around the two cemeteries at Kanchanaburi!
10-12-2008, 02:34 PM
Rural Surin

....where you'll never know about the real numbered casualties.
10-12-2008, 03:05 PM
a. boozer

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....where you'll never know about the real numbered casualties.

Much the same as on the battlefields of France and Belgium in the First World War!
10-12-2008, 04:56 PM
jandajoy

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Originally Posted by a. boozer

If anyone has any doubts on the matter, then I would humbly suggest a trip to and a slow walk around the two cemeteries at Kanchanaburi!

But try to avoid the giggling Japanese tourists. :(

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