Mass Fraud Fears In US Election

**Jesus Jones** · 10-10-2008, 03:19 PM

US election officials believe they have uncovered massive attempted voter fraud less than a month before the country goes to the polls to choose its new president.

US authorities are desperate to stop voter fraud

Eleven separate investigations have now been launched into a voter registration group called the Association of Community Organisations for Reform – or Acorn.
The authorities believe they may have duplicated voter forms, employed convicts to register people and even stolen the names of the American football team the Dallas Cowboys in order to create fake voters.
The suspicions started when authorities in Las Vegas raided the organisation's offices, removing eight computer hard drives and several boxes of documents.
Acorn called the raid "a stunt that serves no useful purpose other than discredit our work".

US officials may have uncoverd attempted voter fraud less than a month before US Election | World News | Sky News

**Butterfly** · 10-10-2008, 03:24 PM

^ are they liberals or conservatives ?

**Texpat** · 10-10-2008, 03:27 PM

Ahh, true colors.

If it's libbies, defend
If its GOP, attack.

wanker.

Voter fraud is wrong in all cases and better catch it now than after the winner is sitting in the oval office.

**Butterfly** · 10-10-2008, 04:07 PM

^ it didn't matter when GW Bush stole it, did it ?

**HungryHeart** · 10-10-2008, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ it didn't matter when GW Bush stole it, did it ?

exactly !

**sabang** · 10-10-2008, 04:23 PM

ACORN is a low income action group, and they are acting for the Dems- well, mainly- whoever they register can obviously vote how they want, but demographically considered more likely Democrat. I was watching Fox about this yesterday- like Sky, also a Murdoch company.

Claims that it is on a massive scale seem totally hyped, but nevertheless voter Fraud should be jumped on vigilently, and stamped out. The other side of voter fraud is, of course, preventing through bureaucratic channels qualified voters from voting- as happened in Florida and a couple of other places in the US during the 1980 elections. The NY Times has evidence of this happening again, although it is not suggesting it is necessarily politically motivated- it may in fact be partially a reaction to some rogue ACORN members activities.

States’ Actions to Block Voters Appear Illegal

Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times.

The actions do not seem to be coordinated by one party or the other, nor do they appear to be the result of election officials intentionally breaking rules, but are apparently the result of mistakes in the handling of the registrations and voter files as the states tried to comply with a 2002 federal law, intended to overhaul the way elections are run.

Still, because Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, any heightened screening of new applications may affect their party’s supporters disproportionately. The screening or trimming of voter registration lists in the six states — Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina — could also result in problems at the polls on Election Day: people who have been removed from the rolls are likely to show up only to be challenged by political party officials or election workers, resulting in confusion, long lines and heated tempers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us...th&oref=slogin

I would hope both Parties come down hard on any type of voter fraud. Certainly, the activities of what seems like rogue individuals in ACORN, cheating to get their quota and hence their money, do not help Obama one little bit.

**Boon Mee** · 10-10-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ it didn't matter when GW Bush stole it, did it ?

But he didn't, did he?
The Supreme Court says it so!

**Butterfly** · 10-10-2008, 04:32 PM

^ actually you are correct technically, the supreme court legalized the fraud by saying it so

couldn't happen to a better man,

**Norton** · 10-10-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Claims that it is on a massive scale seem totally hyped, but nevertheless voter Fraud should be jumped on vigilently, and stamped out.

Not sure this is totally hyped. As the investigation goes further, it appears Acorn and it's registration processes are at best irresponsible and possibly fraudulent. In either case many of the voters they registered will be deemed ineligible. Doubt the Obama campaign has suggested Acorn pull any of these tricks but we all know how some organizations in their enthusiasm will often times overlook the ethics of their mission. Acorn receives funding from the Dems so at a minimum the Dems need to make sure Acorn is following appropriate registration standards.

"The group -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN -- already faces allegations of filing fraudulent voter registrations in Nevada and faces investigations in other states. And in Lake County, home to the long-depressed steel town of Gary, the bipartisan Elections Board has stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.
"All the signatures looked exactly the same," Ruthann Hoagland, a Republican on the board. "Everything on the card filled out looks exactly the same."

Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say - CNN.com

**Butterfly** · 10-10-2008, 05:01 PM

The real question is how many "conservative friendly" groups are doing the same now ? probably quite a few

**HungryHeart** · 10-10-2008, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The real question is how many "conservative friendly" groups are doing the same now ? probably quite a few

Busing slacker negros in minivans to the voting booths ?

**Norton** · 10-10-2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

The real question is how many "conservative friendly" groups are doing the same now ?

Sure there are plenty of companies working for the GOP to get the vote out. Are they all clean? Probably not. I believe many of these companies are compensated based on the number of voters they register and not the quality of the registration. We all know what that can lead to don't we. Financial institutions ring a bell.

**Boon Mee** · 10-10-2008, 09:48 PM

And it gets worse:

More dead people registered to vote - 4000 of them in Houston alone!

http://www.click2houston.com/investigates/17671375/detail.html

**HungryHeart** · 10-10-2008, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

And it gets worse:

More dead people registered to vote - 4000 of them in Houston alone!

http://www.click2houston.com/investigates/17671375/detail.html

Guess they learned their lesson in Florida ehh ?

**Boon Mee** · 11-10-2008, 03:34 AM

^What's that?

Advancing a lamer such as Al Gore?

**Boon Mee** · 11-10-2008, 07:36 PM

Stealing Pennsylvania: "Massive Fraud"

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is "not confident we can get a fair election" in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as "addresses" for "voters" was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=14034

Incendiary: I think it's fair to say that if Obama hangs on to win, more than half the voters will believe he stole it, and with good reason.

**Boon Mee** · 11-10-2008, 07:48 PM

“I can’t even count how many registrations I filled out!”

The ACORN people are everywhere.”

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/10/acorn-watch-1-voter-72-registrations-ciggies-and-cash/

With fine upstanding voters like those above, how can BO not win!

**Jet Gorgon** · 12-10-2008, 04:36 AM

Whichever side cheats in voter fraud, it's disgusting. ACORN has been particularly underhanded from the news I've seen.

**Norton** · 12-10-2008, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

With fine upstanding voters like those above, how can BO not win!

Ignorance is not exclusive to race as the pics in your post clearly intend to imply.

Did you know Obama is an Arab? Common knowledge amongst the great minds within core GOP supporters.

**Boon Mee** · 12-10-2008, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

With fine upstanding voters like those above, how can BO not win!

Ignorance is not exclusive to race as the pics in your post clearly intend to imply.

Did you know Obama is an Arab? Common knowledge amongst the great minds within core GOP supporters.

And a Mooslime too, born in Kenya. It's all coming out. Wait until America wakes up and sees what they voted for POTUS...

**lom** · 13-10-2008, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

born in Kenya

Kenya of all places. How horrible

**keda** · 13-10-2008, 07:48 AM

As I recall it was only about a week ago the revisionists were shitting us on this very board with claims that he was born where it suits their evil purpose.

Sorted. Now, when it's clarified will he step down gracefully, as in jai yen yen lorlen, or get done with the rest of the Dem elite for fraudulently attempting to own the USofA?

**Boon Mee** · 14-10-2008, 08:08 PM

The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud. "They register dead people, but that's not all." Unbelievable...

**Boon Mee** · 14-10-2008, 08:13 PM

"One of those news stories you can hardly believe. In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations. The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent. The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter."

http://www.powerlineblog.com/

I'm speechless...if BO wins this way, there's gonna be a revolution for sure. And you can take that to the bank...

**sabang** · 14-10-2008, 09:18 PM

Obama will win on popular mandate- you would be brave to argue against that now.

I'm not the least bit impressed by the activities of this ACORN group, but it does seem to come down to some scumbag individuals they employ rather than the management of the organisation. By law, they have to submit all voter registrations they receive- but the ones they believe to be suspect they have been marking so themselves before submitting them.

The other point is that a voter registration does not automatically give you a preordained vote- so for example where you have multiple registrations in one name, that will still lead to only one vote- if indeed they vote at all.

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