Thread: Sarah Palin

How could Palin have an affair with her huz's biz partner? I thought he was a union worker? Anyway, the Enquirer likely went to Alaska to dig dirt on the daughter and another hockey mom, jealous that Palin's kids made the team, decided to make up some dirt for some dosh.

Originally Posted by sabang

wages and quality of life in these 'Socialist countries ' of France and Britain have leapfrogged the US- to the point where the minimum wage of a Brit is now roughly double that of a Yank, and average household wealth considerably higher. But of course- thats not the governments fault.
Sorry, but the average American has gotten a raw deal from the republicans.

Ha! Your wages went up but so did your prices, taxes and living costs. Those people are better off? I don't think so, except the dole recipients. If your govs are so people-minded, why do they need unions to demand stuff? The Labour party is looking a bit wobbly these days.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Obs (aka pai nai ma)

Yep, that's what I always thought. Return of the windbag.

next thing we know, we will find out that she was rolling her own amateur porn videos back in her days,

We know someone, or a group of people wrote Palin's speech. And it was a man named Mathew Scully:

The Man Behind Palin's Speech

As Democrats and Barack Obama's campaign scrambled to attack Sarah Palin's well-received acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., on Wednesday night, they latched on early and hard to the fact that it was penned by former Bush speechwriter Matthew Scully. But the story is more complicated than just the recycling of a Bush staffer into John McCain's fold, and it tells you more about how McCain's camp intends to use Palin than it does about the continuing influence of the current White House.

The clues are in the text itself. Scully started working on the vice-presidential speech a week ago, before he or anyone else knew who the nominee would be, and it's not hard to pick out the parts that would have been the same regardless of who delivered it. Scully unspooled two centrist themes via Palin that have been key to the McCain message: the idea that the Republican nominee puts service to country ahead of career and the notion that he's the true representative of Middle America. Both themes implicitly push Obama and Biden to the left, and Scully made them explicit with lines accusing the Democrats of élitism and talking down to working-class voters.

Once Palin was chosen, Scully tailored the speech to the Alaska governor,highlighting her biography and using her PTA background and local political experience (contrasted so memorably with Obama's work as a community organizer) to bolster his two themes. Where much media attention in the wake of her surprise naming has focused on Palin's views on cultural issues like abortion, the speech carefully steered away from ideological touchstones. Palin was shown as an average mainstream American looking to bring change to Washington, further bolstering McCain's overarching message of reforming the wasteful Federal Government.

Scully was a good choice to help moderate Palin's right-wing image. A veteran of the early Bush White House, his specialty was crafting Bush's pro-life message in a way that would not offend soccer moms or mainstream Catholics who get nervous around some of the more extreme Evangelical rhetoric. A former protégé of the late pro-life Democratic governor of Pennsylvania, Bob Casey, Scully has a history of finding rhetorical unity for voters on the right and in the center.

The Palin-Scully pairing is anything but a guaranteed fit, though. Palin is known as an avid hunter; Scully is best known for his vigorous defense of animal rights. A vegetarian who is regularly critical of the NRA and much of the hunting community, he is a passionate advocate for doing away with the more brutal versions of blood-sport, including aerial hunting, which Palin supports.

Entire: The Man Behind Palin's Speech - TIME

And here is something, not uncommon, but interesting:

The Palin-Scully pairing is anything but a guaranteed fit, though. Palin is known as an avid hunter; Scully is best known for his vigorous defense of animal rights. A vegetarian who is regularly critical of the NRA and much of the hunting community, he is a passionate advocate for doing away with the more brutal versions of blood-sport, including aerial hunting, which Palin supports.

Link the same.

^ and your point is? very few politicians, or motivational speakers (which is about all the Messia is) write their own speeches.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

next thing we know, we will find out that she was rolling her own amateur porn videos back in her days,

Butt I don't know why you're posts are totally ignored maybe everybody knows what an antagonistic sodomite you are so they don't want to give you the opportunity to respond but frankly I don't give a shit I find your statements about Governor Pallin offensive in fact I find just about everything you post here to be nothing better than wanker crap

He and a few others think its clever to get a rise out of fellow posters. Ignore him.

^,^^

and i quite enjoy it. green for the alleged sodomite, butterfly.

Originally Posted by Texpat

He and a few others think its clever to get a rise out of fellow posters. Ignore him.

What a sterling bit of bald-faced hypocrisy that is.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

^ or the imminent death of the mother.

Juneau Empire Story Archive

I guess she must have changed her postion then?

Palin is opposed to abortion, but believes an exception should be made if the health of the mother is in danger.

The above artical is from her 2006 run for governor.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

next thing we know, we will find out that she was rolling her own amateur porn videos back in her days,

We can only hope.

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

^ and your point is? very few politicians, or motivational speakers (which is about all the Messia is) write their own speeches.

I know this. I've studied campaign and elections.

My points is that even sophisticated people I know were very enthused about Palin's speech.

I think speeches by politicians should be read, not watched & heard. (Even reading speeches, only reveals abstract and obscure points.)

As stated, I don't watch conventions or listen to them. Occasionally, out of casual interest I'll scan a speech transcripts.

Again, these conventions speeches (and the coming debates) focus on the low-info voters, and it's these low-info voters who are independent, who may tilt the election either way.

The marketing, branding, and staging of national politicians and political messages is an art. The of the best are the ones writing speeches, making adds, and inventing soundbites for the masses.

The real issues the US faces are not discussed.

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

and i quite enjoy it. green for the alleged sodomite, butterfly.

Thanks for the support

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

an antagonistic sodomite you are so they don't want to give you the opportunity to respond but frankly I don't give a shit I find your statements about Governor Pallin offensive

ah, you seem to be another American conservative with no sense of humor when your "candidates" are being questioned and ridiculed, grow up bitch, who the fuck care what you find offensive,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

he funny thing is that you guys would be all over her if she was a democrat,

so true, imagine the posts of the alleged conservatives on this board if the dems had nominated this woman.

and btw, our fears about our sarah not being all that bright have some merit....it took her 6 years and 5 colleges to finagle an undergraduate degree.

Politics | Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years | Seattle Times Newspaper

My error regarding her stance on abortion and the life of the mother. sorry.

hat tip to rc and bugs.

I think the Palin nod for VP took the wind out of BO's sails.

Suddenly, the GOP represents something new too. A lot of BO's momentum and nearly his entire platform is based on change -- and he had it in spades. His VP choice was a predictable, necessary move to fill in his gaps.

McCain had the dual advantage of choosing second and not having to chose a crutch.

Now change will occur regardless of which party makes the White House.

he may well come to rue the day he passed on hillary.

I agree, an Obama-Clinton ticket would have smoked any GOP combination.

It would have made for some terribly uncomfortable years around the Capitol though.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Suddenly, the GOP represents something new too. A lot of BO's momentum and nearly his entire platform is based on change -- and he had it in spades. His VP choice was a predictable, necessary move to fill in his gaps.

wishful thinking, when revelations about her "dodgy" past surface, she will be become a huge liability,

Originally Posted by Texpat

an Obama-Clinton ticket would have smoked any GOP combination.

unlikely.
half the populations of the country hates (not just dislikes hillary clinton), and having her on the ticket would have revitalized the GOP base to such an extent that obama wouldn't have had a chance in most of the swing states.

Originally Posted by raycarey

half the populations of the country hates (not just dislikes hillary clinton), and having her on the ticket would have revitalized the GOP base to such an extent that obama wouldn't have had a chance in most of the swing states.

absolutely, Hillary only asset was her husband, and that's it, her as VP doesn't make any sense

on the other hand he would have appealed to all hillary voters and mccain would have gone with liberman (or libermanish). interesting in any case and i am sure it be will dicussed forever should obama lose

Originally Posted by pai nai ma

on the other hand he would have appealed to all hillary voters and mccain would have gone with liberman (or libermanish). interesting in any case and i am sure it be will dicussed forever should obama lose

If Obama loses there will be lot's of finger pointing going on from the Hillary folks.