HIV positive man who had unprotected sex avoids jail time

[kingwilly]

HIV positive man who had unprotected sex avoids jail time

August 11, 2008 10:24am
A GEELONG man who had unprotected sex with a woman despite knowing he was HIV positive has avoided prison time.
Lam Kuoth, 28, pleaded guilty to two charges of recklessly endangering another person.

Kuoth had sex with the woman twice on April 22, 2007, after they went to a Melbourne nightclub.

He did not inform her he had HIV.

Victorian County Court Judge Paul Lacava today jailed Kuoth for two years but suspended the sentence for a period of three years.

He also placed Kuoth on a two-year community based order.

Should be jail time IMO....

[Redneck]

Thats how my ex got HIV (not off me I hasten to add)

Thai man who was her Bf after me gave it to her.

When she found out, (it was me who told her, as i'd helped her out financially with some medical treatment and the surgery asked me to tell her), she then obviously told him and he was like,,,,

"Oh yes, well, I already had it."

charming.

[November Rain]

OK, linky? And wouldn't this be better in Issues? Please?

[kingwilly]

OK, linky? And wouldn't this be better in Issues? Please?

oops, you are probably right. where is that room again?

perhaps a friendly mod might move it....I'm scared to venture in there...

[November Rain]

^ But I haven't really ventured in there for ages. I'm not up enough on current affairs to hold my own. I love stuff like this - more principles than current affairs...

[kingwilly]

here's the linky

[November Rain]

here's the linky

Thanks. Didn't realise the OP was the whole story.

The lenient sentence makes me wonder if there's something not being said. Doesn't say if she was infected - maybe that's it.

Yes, it's a bad thing to do KW. But how many women in the Western world today are stupid enough to have unprotected sex with a one-night stand? No, she doesn't deserve HIV or even the scare of thinking she may have it. But the AIDS threat has been over all of us (male & female) for more than 20 years now. When are both sexes going to wise up & realise it's a possibility that you'll contract HIV (or hepatitis or another STD) from unprotected sex?


I'd be much more upset about this if he had raped her. As they had consensual unprotected sex twice, it does make me think the woman bears some responsibility in this.

[kingwilly]

I'd be much more upset about this if he had raped her.

yes.

As they had consensual unprotected sex twice, it does make me think the woman bears some responsibility in this.

dont agree, its lying by omission,

if he knows he is HIV+ and he knows that unprotected sex is much more likely to give it to her, and we all know that HIV+ = eventual death....

then its not far off manslaughter....

or at the very least it is endangering human life

[Ivor Biggun]

or at the very least it is endangering human life

That applies to most Thais on the road.
Joking apart, if he knew before hand then yes lock him up. But then he'll get free medical treatment which is a downer.

[ChiangMai noon]

Doesn't say if she was infected - maybe that's it.

chances are about 0.0002 to 1000 i think.

[Mid]

^

what ? unprotected viginal intercourse with a HIV positive male ??

cite please ??

[ChiangMai noon]

cite please ??

i gave the link, several of them in that hiv thread long time ago.

[kingwilly]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mid cite please ?? i gave the link, several of them in that hiv thread long time ago.

and even if correct, are wildly inaccurate anyway,

to out a number on the 'chance' of contracting HIV from a HIV+ person borders on the silly,

factors such as current health
type of sex, rough, anal, etc
other STD's present

can multiply the chances, which once you have it is 100% death. (unless a cure is found in yours and my life time)

not that many other diseases on this planet are 100% fatal - more virulent, more contagious, more horrible a death....

[ChiangMai noon]

to out a number on the 'chance' of contracting HIV from a HIV+ person borders on the silly,

quite.

nobody can actually stick a number on it, but the chance would appear to be pretty slim.

[ChiangMai noon]

factors such as current health
type of sex, rough, anal, etc
other STD's present

new research suggests that Africans might be at a higher risk.

Risk of HIV infection may be higher for Africans, study says - International Herald Tribune

[Mid]

Google Answers: hiv

1 in a thousand NOT .00002

[November Rain]

dont agree, its lying by omission, if he knows he is HIV+ and he knows that unprotected sex is much more likely to give it to her, and we all know that HIV+ = eventual death.... then its not far off manslaughter.... or at the very least it is endangering human life

Yes, it is endangering human life. I'm not excusing his behaviour, it's diabolical. But I still can't get my head around a Western woman having unprotected sex with a stranger in this day & age. We're not talking third world here. We're not talking about a woman trying to make a pittance for her family & talked into not using a condom. We're talking a woman who has supposedly had the benefit of education & media exposure on the subject of HIV/AIDS for 2 decades.

[kingwilly]

erm, probably more common than you would think...

[ChiangMai noon]

1 in a thousand NOT .00002

depends which figures you want to believe.

In any case, one common theme is that it takes multiple exposure to an infected patient to seriously enhance the risk.

I find the lack of any substantial evidence either way very telling.

[ChiangMai noon]

erm, probably more common than you would think

much, much more common.

[Mid]

depends which figures you want to believe.

those that have a cite as opposed to those pulled outa thin air .

[November Rain]

erm, probably more common than you would think

much, much more common.

OK.

And the point you're both making is?

Can't imagine.

'It's OK for women to be stupid about this, despite the benefit of education & media because they're only women?'

Neither of you would be that crass. So, what is your point?

[kingwilly]

OK. And the point you're both making is? Can't imagine. 'It's OK for women to be stupid about this, despite the benefit of education & media because they're only women?' Neither of you would be that crass. So, what is your point?

I meant that having unprotected sex (male or female, western or nonwestern, gay or straight) is quite common...

Not smart, not good, but not rare.

I know of quite a number of people who admit to it.

[ChiangMai noon]

those that have a cite as opposed to those pulled outa thin air .

can't remember where I got the figure from but it referred to female to male, so my bad.

in any case i am highly skeptical of the HIV message.

[November Rain]

I meant that having unprotected sex (male or female, western or nonwestern, gay or straight) is quite common... Not smart, not good, but not rare. I know of quite a number of people who admit to it.

in any case i am highly skeptical of the HIV message.

Interesting.

So, a man or woman who knowingly sleeps with another when they have an STD is reprehensible (agreed). But the potential receiver of the STD is what? Naive? Gullible? An innocent? A victim? They know the facts & the risks. They ignore them. What does that make them?