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    U.S. Kills Bin Laden's Man in Somalia - new anti-American sentiment in E. Africa now

    U.S. Kills Bin Laden's Man in Somalia

    he U.S. missile strike that killed Somalia's most notorious Islamist insurgent, Aden Hashi Ayro, has dealt a major blow to al-Qaeda's allies operating in East Africa.

    The deaths of Ayro and up to 10 others were announced early Thursday by spokesman for his al-Shabab militia, while the U.S. military confirmed it had struck what it called an al-Qaeda target in Somalia, but offered no details. Al-Shabab spokesmen said the men were killed early Thursday by a U.S. air strike on a house in Dusamareeb, a few hundred miles north of Mogadishu. "Infidel planes bombed Dhusamareb," Shabab spokesman Mukhtar Ali Robow told Reuters. "Two of our important people, including Ayro, were killed." Other reports said the attack was not carried out by warplanes, but involved four Tomahawk cruise missiles.

    The strike marks the fifth such attack targeting Islamists in Somalia in the 16 months since the U.S.-backed Ethiopian invasion in December 2006, which toppled the Islamist regime that had seized power in Mogadishu.

    Ayro had been trained by al-Qaeda in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, where he later fought alongside the Taliban against the Northern Alliance and the U.S. before returning to Somalia in 2003 to join - and quickly come to lead - a group of Somali and foreign radical militants that had been established by Osama bin Laden in remote swamps in the southeast of the country. It was this group that Washington blames for the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and for the 2002 attack on an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya, as well as several other attempted atrocities.

    U.S. military interest in Somalia dates back to the early years of the civil war that has raged since 1991 - on October 3, 1993, 18 U.S. soldiers were killed in the "Blackhawk Down" fiasco that befell an operation aimed at capturing a key Mogadishu warlord whose forces had imperiled a U.N. humanitarian mission.

    More recently, however, the focus has been on terrorism, and particularly on Ayro as he rose up the chain of command in al-Qaeda's East African operations. Although reports were sketchy, security sources suspected his involvement in a number of assassinations, including the death of four foreign aid workers in the semi-autonomous Somaliland region in 2003 and 2004, as well as the killing of BBC journalist Kate Peyton in Mogadishu in 2005.

    Ayro was the target of a previous U.S. operation in January, 2007, involving thousands of U.S. personnel at sea off the Somali coast, as well as U.S. warplanes and special forces. He was believed to have been wounded in that attack, but re-surfaced two months later to urge Somalis to fight the Ethiopian occupiers. Last November, he issued another proclamation, hailing bin-Laden and calling on Somalis to target Ugandan peacekeepers and to pursue the Ethiopians to Addis Ababa, where he said they should behead their women and children.

    The elimination of Ayro is an unqualified success, but it is also a narrow one. Before Ethiopian and U.S. operations began in 2006, Somalia was already one of the most unfortunate countries in the world, with no government, little infrastructure, and prone to periodic famine and floods.

    The humanitarian situation has since worsened to the point where the U.N. describes it as the worst on the struggling continent. And there is little dispute that the cause of the dramatic humanitarian decline has been the upsurge in violence in the wake of the U.S.-backed Ethiopian invasion. There is also little arguing with the fact that Washington's failure to match its military involvement with humanitarian intervention has helped deepen anti-American sentiment across Somalia. View this article on Time.com
    Does America have new enemies across Eastern Africa now?

    U.S. Kills Bin Laden's Man in Somalia - Yahoo! News

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    Somalia is very anti-US because the US backed the Ethiopian invasion, which I think was a mistake.

    Partly (but only partly) for this reason it is also a hot bed of Islamic radicalism.

    Anyway, AQ are our sworn enemy anywhere in the world. Taking out their key figures anywhere in the world (without undue slaughter of innocent people) is only good news. It won't cure the symptom, but thats one less to worry about.

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    Reminder: AQ doesn't exist and is not an official terrorist organization. It was named by the US DA to condemn the bombing of the WTC in 1993

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Reminder: AQ doesn't exist and is not an official terrorist organization. It was named by the US DA to condemn the bombing of the WTC in 1993
    Unfortunately very true!

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    Whoever created the Brand, people identify with it.

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    there's really nothing new about this.

    there's been an anti-american sentiment in E africa for quite some time, and AQ didn't show up yesterday either.....ten years ago they blew up the embassies in nairobi and tanzania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Reminder: AQ doesn't exist and is not an official terrorist organization. It was named by the US DA to condemn the bombing of the WTC in 1993
    How do you become an official terrorist organization, do you need a licence? AQ was named for Abdullah Azzam's policy of building a "firm base" (Al-qaida As Sulbah) for Afghan Arab and, eventually, global, mujihadeen through Azzam's and Bin Laden's Maktab-al-Khadamat-al-Mujihadeen "Mujihadeen Services Office". This services office became the core of Bin Laden's global jihad umbrella organization after the Afghan War, this organization was named Al-qaida As Sulbah, the name was kept secret by the Jihadi's until the US revealed it, the US first knew of the name through documents captured in Sarajevo.
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    The title should have been " U.S. Kills Bin Laden's Top Man for the millionth time".

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    Mission Accomplished!

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    Indeed. Now you're starting to catch on.

    That mission was accomplished. Many others await.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    This services office became the core of Bin Laden's global jihad umbrella organization after the Afghan War, this organization was named Al-qaida As Sulbah, the name was kept secret by the Jihadi's until the US revealed it, the US first knew of the name through documents captured in Sarajevo.
    actually no and maybe you should research this first. The name came up as a proxy from investigations by the FBI in the early 1990s, Sarajevo didn't happen yet (1998)

    However it's possible that the "brand name" developed by the American was latter used by the Islamists themselves out of convenience,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    This services office became the core of Bin Laden's global jihad umbrella organization after the Afghan War, this organization was named Al-qaida As Sulbah, the name was kept secret by the Jihadi's until the US revealed it, the US first knew of the name through documents captured in Sarajevo.
    actually no and maybe you should research this first. The name came up as a proxy from investigations by the FBI in the early 1990s, Sarajevo didn't happen yet (1998)

    However it's possible that the "brand name" developed by the American was latter used by the Islamists themselves out of convenience,
    Maybe you should do some research, there has been human habitation in Sarajevo since neolithic times and the city of Sarajevo dates from the 15th Century. Sarajevo happened a long time ago, what happened in 1998? Can you read Arabic, I'll happily post Azzam's works, or at least links to them, establishing the name Al Qaida back during the Afghan war.

    “This deen (religion) will triumph and must burst forth from a qaeda al‐sulba (firm
    foundation) it is from here (Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Caucuses) that the Turks
    and their descendents emerged to rule the Ottoman Empire for five centuries, that
    Mahamadu Ghaznawi founded the Ghaznavid Dynasty and ruled India for centuries,
    destroying its pagan idols, and that Ahmed Shah Baba ruled Afghanistan, India and
    Eastern Iran for decades. Will the triumph over the Soviets be the seeds from where an
    Islamic empire that will alter world history will emerge?”
    Abdullah Azzam:Jihad Shaab Muslim (Jihad of the Muslim Peoples)

    On or about 1980, Azzam realized that the Arab jihadists fighting the
    Soviets in Afghanistan required organization, safe house, and structure. He
    established Maktab al‐Khidmat lil Mujahideen (The Services Offices for Arab
    Jihadists) which attracted Usama Bin Laden, then graduating from King Abdul‐
    Aziz University to join his new venture. Azzam convinced Bin Laden that his
    financial connections, business experience, and dedication would be of great use
    to his new organization in Pakistan. Bin Laden found a calling in Azzam’s
    rudimentary network that enabled him to bring organizational discipline to
    Azzam’s project, along with massive infusions of cash. It is from Azzam’s office
    that Bin Laden would venture on his own in establishing Bait al‐Ansar (House of
    Allies) and creating the military training camps necessary to train an exclusive
    Arab fighting force. The role Bin Laden played in the Afghan war against the
    Soviets (1979‐1988) is well‐documented in several biographies. Yet Azzam
    remains an afterthought in a post‐9/11 world. It was Azzam who:

    • Discovered Usama Bin Laden, while teaching an elective in Jeddah.
    • Created a theoretical concept of what Azzam would call Al‐Qaeda al‐Sulba
    (Firm Base) of support and services from which global jihad could be
    waged from Afghanistan.
    • Encouraged Sunni Islamist militant groups to learn from Hizballah (a
    Shiite terror group) and set up networks for fund raising, recruitment, gun
    practice, and conventions in the United States far from the efficiency of
    Arab security services.
    LCDR Youssef Aboul‐Enein, MSC, USN in an essay for the Counter Terrorism Centre
    Last edited by DrB0b; 02-05-2008 at 01:28 PM.

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    ^ well, you are mentioning documents in Sarajevo, I was probably assuming something else, so please enlighten us about the Sarajevo connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Indeed. Now you're starting to catch on.

    That mission was accomplished. Many others await.
    There are two million top man in AQ's hierarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^ well, you are mentioning documents in Sarajevo, I was probably assuming something else, so please enlighten us about the Sarajevo connection

    Do you accept, from the quotes above, that the name Al-Qaeda was not invented by the US government?

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    ^ no but show me the colors on your Sarajevo claims,

    The name AQ was coined by the US DA from FBI investigations,

    It's like a terrorist organization calling itself "Jesus" and you are telling me their organization is coming from ancient times,

    get a clue or like I said, do your research, however I am not discounting the fact that AQ can have also other historical meanings (like your Sarajevo connection),

    The modern and infamous AQ as we know it today is a US invention, I am sure they didn't get the name out of nowhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    that the name Al-Qaeda was not invented by the US government?
    the labelled organization (as organized crime) was, the name is arabic so I doubt they created it. I am talking about a named organization here, not the name alone. Thought it was clear though.

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    Another terrorist eats dirt and you guys seem to praise the guy or at least show no form of feeling that it's good this teacher of hate is dead. Coming from pc nutters and muslim fundaMENTALists', what else would one expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee View Post
    Does America have new enemies across Eastern Africa now?
    Heh...tough shit - just another dead terrorist.
    Like we gotta worry whether the rest of that rabble is our friend?
    Don't think so...

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    Another baddie gone, lot more to go - carry on Yanks, doing a fine job!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Indeed. Now you're starting to catch on.

    That mission was accomplished. Many others await.
    There are two million top man in AQ's hierarchy.

    Come on macha, you're ALL about quoting places that INFORMATION came from, where are your sources from. Better question is: Why are you not doing ANYTHING to report these terrorists? Does beg the question, doesn't it?



    Oh shit, I forgot, you're just a fundaMEANTAList muslim and can't (better stated, WILL NOT) give ANY information to get rid of these terrorist asswipes.



    Oh damn, I'm sorry, it might be your brothers in arms that got drugged in Pattaya while having sex with others than they're wives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    Oh damn, I'm sorry, it might be your brothers in arms that got drugged in Pattaya while having sex with others than they're wives.
    weren't you the one who got all drugged up a few years go after taking some whore from Nana and found trace of cigarettes on your back the next morning when you woke up, along some discomfort with your bum ?

    that story was all over TV about 4 years ago, surely you still remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    there's really nothing new about this.

    there's been an anti-american sentiment in E africa for quite some time, and AQ didn't show up yesterday either.....ten years ago they blew up the embassies in nairobi and tanzania.
    For once I can agree with RC.
    I've been a world traveler for as long as I can remember 40+years, and I can recall encountering anti-american sentiment all along.

    America is such a large target it doesn't require much sophistication to find a plethora inherent faults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    Oh damn, I'm sorry, it might be your brothers in arms that got drugged in Pattaya while having sex with others than they're wives.
    weren't you the one who got all drugged up a few years go after taking some whore from Nana and found trace of cigarettes on your back the next morning when you woke up, along some discomfort with your bum ?

    that story was all over TV about 4 years ago, surely you still remember

    This is even more interesting than the OP ... any more information please ....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    Oh damn, I'm sorry, it might be your brothers in arms that got drugged in Pattaya while having sex with others than they're wives.
    weren't you the one who got all drugged up a few years go after taking some whore from Nana and found trace of cigarettes on your back the next morning when you woke up, along some discomfort with your bum ?

    that story was all over TV about 4 years ago, surely you still remember


    That might well be the story, but then, I"m not a muslim that is NOT supposed to go to bed with women that are NOT their wives. Oh shit, these are real 100% muslims and would never think of sticking their little willy up a womans' puss, I think they would go the buttfly way and then they are not doing anything wrong.

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