Thread: Carter Meets With Hamas

In his efforts for peace, former President Carter meets with Hamas leaders.

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) -- Defying U.S. and Israeli warnings, former President Carter met again Saturday with the exiled leader of the militant Hamas group, the leader's deputy said.
Former President Carter says he hopes to see a breakthrough in the Mideast peace process in his lifetime.

The two Palestinians are considered terrorists by the U.S. government, and Israel accuses them of masterminding attacks that have killed hundreds of civilians. Both governments have sharply criticized Carter's overtures to the militant group.

Carter met Mashaal and his deputy, Moussa Abu Marzouk, for about an hour Saturday morning, after more than four hours of talks the night before.
Carter, who is on what he has called a personal peace mission, is the most prominent American to hold talks with Mashaal, whose group claimed new legitimacy from the meetings with the Nobel laureate.

Hamas claims second Carter meeting - CNN.com

A true American hero. Doing what he feels is right, and not relenting to those who refuse to negotiate for peace.

Carter is showing more courage than anyone else

Only a coward like Bush would run away and hide from his enemy instead of facing them,

^The only problem is Carter has no platform, almost no relevance, and is mostly making a fool of himself. He would have been smarter to form a coalition of respected people to join him in such an effort. He just looks like a half-cocked cowboy geriatric.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Former President Carter says he hopes to see a breakthrough in the Mideast peace process in his lifetime.

He had the same time limit on seeing the hostages released in IRAN back about 1979 too.

Originally Posted by Milkman

A true American hero. Doing what he feels is right,

Same thing he did those 440 days that IRAN had them hostages,, the brain damaged old prick.
What a useless old cocksucker

The effectiveness of Carters efforts remain to be seen- at minimum he is keeping in the public eye what several interest groups would prefer you to forget.

It does however highlight the total incompetence and utter irrelevance of the rump of the Bush administration in todays world. Holy cow, these people were organising the Annapolis summit just a few months ago- I thought to myself that maybe they were making a last ditch effort to actually leave one positive legacy from their train wreck of an administration. Not so- just smoke and mirrors again.

The world is in Limbo until they are blessedly gone. Most people are more concerned with meeting their mortgage payments these days.

The mid east has been in conflict ever since before that screwey old sumbitch was prez, and he did nothing about it then, and he knows that he can do nothing about it now.

MM, I also admire Carter in a way and always have. I think he always had the best of intentions. However, I think his bleeding heart will always get in the way.

^ He has a heart.

The building of homes for the homeless, etc.

His book caused a lot of controversy - I don't think it should have.

He's being maligned by the Mainstream Media (MSM) because he has - oh, forbid - criticize Israeli policies.

^Yup, I do agree with you, and this is in spite of the fact that over 80% of the Jews in America are Democrats..., many of them quite wealthy who give to the democratic party.

Carter, in that respect, is quite radical, going against the grain, and I do respect the old gipper for that. Israel does need to be contained.

And Blackgang,

Nice try on 1979. A little outdated on that one.


What you talking about MM..

The staff of the US embassy in Tehran taken hostage
(November 4, 1979, www.iranian.com)

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Reagan played a devious game and offered the Iranians arms for the hostages, but, only if the deal happened on his watch so that he could take the credit.

Coincidentally the hostages were released on the very day Reagan was taking the oath of office.

Carter did all he could do and in the end all 52 hostages returned alive. The outcome could have been much worse.

Wasn't it Bush Senior connection that "delayed" the release of the hostages under Carter ? another fine act of courage from the Bush family,

Originally Posted by blackgang

And Blackgang,

Nice try on 1979. A little outdated on that one.

Yes, BG. Outdated.

What does the Iranian hostage issue of 1979 have to do with meeting Hamas in Syria and EgypT in 2008 - twenty eight years later?

Apples and Oranges.

Sad that blackgang cannot even give an explanation: it's because he does not know.

What you talking about MM..

The staff of the US embassy in Tehran taken hostage
(November 4, 1979, www.iranian.com)

I watched the Iranian hostage ESCAPADE every day for more than 440 days.

Where is the Hamas connection in GAZA?

We must always show respect for the Presidents of the USA..leaders of the free world..that said Jimmy Carter is and always will be a wanker with no idea how to be a leader all talk and big smiles..his term in the White House was a disaster..run away inflation...high interest rates and high unemployment...his foreign policy was the worst the world has ever seen...misread the situation in Iran and refused to back Shah Reza Pahlavi paving the road for the Ayatollah Khomeini revolution to take over and look what that has done to the region..."Hamas" is a terrorist organization that has no standing in the civalized world..just more big smiles and talk that will lead to nothing

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

We must always show respect for the Presidents of the USA..leaders of the free world..that said Jimmy Carter is and always will be a wanker with no idea how to be a leader all talk and big smiles..

I hope you are joking.

The so-called leaders of the free world can kiss my arse, lying scheming parasites who crawled out of the poophole of the universe.

As far as I am concerned, you can shove your precious leaders right back to where they crawled out from.

Sorry I'm not jocking I was raised to show respect to my elders and people in authority...sure some are just a joke and Jimmy Peanut Carter is IMO the leading clown

I have been thinking about starting a thread on why I think George W Bush will be judged by historians to be one of the best leaders of the free world..but I don't think my ego will be able to stand up to the abuse and ridicule I might receive

^ Lets just say it would be an interesting thread.
Heck, you'd need Balls of Iron. Anyway, peoples opinions run the full gamut in Issues- pitch in with yours too.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Where is the Hamas connection in GAZA?

Right, where is it, and why is he fucking with them anyway.

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

that said Jimmy Carter is and always will be a wanker with no idea how to be a leader all talk and big smiles..his term in the White House was a disaster..run away inflation...high interest rates and high unemployment...his foreign policy was the worst the world has ever seen...misread the situation in Iran and refused to back Shah Reza Pahlavi paving the road for the Ayatollah Khomeini revolution to take over and look what that has done to the region..."Hamas" is a terrorist organization that has no standing in the civalized world..just more big smiles and talk that will lead to nothing

There this gentleman has said exactly what I would have said and saves me the time typing it.
I was working there just a few years before they took the embassy.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Yes, BG. Outdated. What does the Iranian hostage issue of 1979 have to do with meeting Hamas in Syria and EgypT in 2008 - twenty eight years later? Apples and Oranges. Sad that blackgang cannot even give an explanation: it's because he does not know.

Yes it is reverent, It was the high lite of his wasted years in charge of the country and he is still a fuck up and a no nothing asshole cracker, who had a worthless brother that sold white house favors to enemy's of the country, same as happen in Clinton's term.

Originally Posted by blackgang

the brain damaged old prick. What a useless old cocksucker

priceless.

If Desert One hadn't crashed in the desert and had actually suceeded in it's mission (highly unlikely), Carter would be considered a hero today.

As for high unemployment and runaway inflation during his term, name a western country that didn't have the same.

As for thinking that backing the Shah would have stopped the Islamic revolution, then, I have a certain bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you......