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    Yeh, I don't see how it's a disaster for Hillary at all. Spitzer is NY based, and a Democrat- but no big deal to Hillaries campaign as far as I can see.

    I've been following Ann Coulter for a while (you've prolly seen the Coulter thread). She hates slick Willy with a passion- she once said he was "probably a rapist", and it was her that leaked details of his infamous bent schlong to the Press- Paula Jones said she would 'recognise it anywhere'. So any chance to get the boot in she will take- actually it's what shot her to fame in the first place.

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    ^I agree it's quite easy for Clinton to avoid much fallout from this. Obama, on the other hand, has a more serious problem with the preacher issue, and various permutations of the race issue being played like a fiddle by the Clinton camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Obama, on the other hand, has a more serious problem with the preacher issue,
    This too could backfire on Clinton. Losing white moderates thinking the race card is being overplayed.

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    "On February 14, Elliot Spitzer published a signed article in the influential Washington Post titled, "Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime: How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers."

    Why Bush Watergated Eliot Spitzer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Obama, on the other hand, has a more serious problem with the preacher issue,
    This too could backfire on Clinton. Losing white moderates thinking the race card is being overplayed.
    I think CT has a point, that may be starting to be realized. As Boon noted, there's been a polling shift towards McCain. (Although, the election is way too far away at 7.5 months.)

    I don't understand why this preacher's comments are considereed "radical" or controversial, but I have had a different life and experiences than most Americans, being that I'm an expat.
    ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    there's been a polling shift towards McCain.
    one that is to be expected in the short term. mccain's locked up the nomination and is well below the radar. once the press starts caring about him again, he'll drop in the polls. btw, did anyone see the huge gaffe he made yesterday regarding AQ and iran? and this guy's strength is foreign policy?

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    I think we all agree the Obama/Clinton sniping only benefits McCain. Now that it seems impossible for Florida to redo of their primary, Clinton's chances have gone from slim to zero. She really needs to step aside and let Obama and the media focus on McCain. CT does have a good point, the preacher episode will rear its head but for now he seems to be making the right moves on the issue. 7 plus months to the general election is a long time but the quicker the Dems start campaigning against McCain the better.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    there's been a polling shift towards McCain.
    one that is to be expected in the short term. mccain's locked up the nomination and is well below the radar. once the press starts caring about him again, he'll drop in the polls. btw, did anyone see the huge gaffe he made yesterday regarding AQ and iran? and this guy's strength is foreign policy?
    Yes, and this shows that he's not very knowledgable or he's getting too old and confusing things.

    A very serious flubb, IMO. I don't know if the public feels the same way or even noticed.

    I'm not saying McCain is dumb, but he's not very sophisticated nor intelligent.

    I've been watching his interviews and town meeting on Youtube and don't like his message nor the way he communicates.

    He's a simpleton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    or even noticed.
    no, they're more interested in what obama's pastor said that what mccain said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    I'm not saying McCain is dumb, but he's not very sophisticated nor intelligent.
    I agree but by any comparison, a big improvement over what we have now.

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    ^I don't think the American electorate is looking for an intellectual to get them out of the economic mess and contain the Iraq problem. At the same time, McCain, though competent, is not offering any fresh vision, and in times of difficulty, the American public looks to inspirational leaders. John Kennedy was inspirational. Reagan was. Bill Clinton was.

    Hilary is not. McCain is not. The problem with Obama is he's an unproven commodity. But, that edge is very attractive.

    If he can get past the race issue, he is the horse to catch in my opinion, and whether he represents tax and spend or not, American needs a fresh face at the top. He is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    he's not very knowledgable or he's getting too old and confusing things.
    my guess would be the latter.

    how many times a day do you think he has to ask his aides, "where am i?"

    and do you remember the question for clinton back in '92..."boxers or briefs".....for mccain it will have to be, "boxers, briefs, or depends?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    The problem with McCain is he's an unproven commodity.
    Assume you mean Obama?

    Don't know if any of you watched Obama's speech he gave yesterday on the race issue. Just saw a bit myself but was watching CNN and all the analysts (Dem and Rep) agree it was the most inspiring speech they had heard since JFK's speech on the issue of being a Catholic. Obama has the charisma edge by far and as you say voters are drawn to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    The problem with McCain is he's an unproven commodity.
    Assume you mean Obama?

    Don't know if any of you watched Obama's speech he gave yesterday on the race issue. Just saw a bit myself but was watching CNN and all the analysts (Dem and Rep) agree it was the most inspiring speech they had heard since JFK's speech on the issue of being a Catholic. Obama has the charisma edge by far and as you say voters are drawn to it.
    Sorry, yes, I meant Obama. Been a busy day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Sorry, yes, I meant Obama. Been a busy day.
    McCain doesn't really have that much experience either so could have been him.

    If the race was based on experience, Chaney and Rumsfeld would be the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    or even noticed.
    no, they're more interested in what obama's pastor said that what mccain said.
    That's right.
    The race is over for all intents and purposes .
    Might as well swear in McCain right now.
    Both the dems are damaged beyond repair.

    heh...

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    I agree: McCain's 23 years in the Navy and 26 years in Congress simply just isn't enough experience.

    Obama and Hide's combined 12 years makes them eminently more qualified.

    Of course McCain has far more experience than both of them combined. But he's too old and he's a Republican. If he can survive the next seven months at the plate with the count at two stikes, elect him. I'd be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    23 years in the Navy
    and? so what?
    and from what i've read he wasn't particularly successful at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    26 years in Congress
    yeah, it will be nice when the media gets around to scrutinizing his votes.....and judgment. he'll never shake the keating five scandal.

    but most importantly people don't want a third term of john mcbush.

    obama v mccain......youtube generation v. feeding tube geriatrics.

    ^ not my line.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Might as well swear in McCain right now. Both the dems are damaged beyond repair
    only in your dreams old timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    The race is over for all intents and purposes . Might as well swear in McCain right now.
    Yes, I agree. Seize the moment, this is as good as it's gonna get for him.

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    ^Really, sorry to say it, but I love Reagan, because he had all the right stuff, even at a dinosaur age. McCain just doesn't have it. And, remember, I used to be a registered Republican....then again, I used to be a registered Democrat too in my younger stupid idealist years.

    But, Obama gets the nod I've decided. Sorry Boon Mee, Earl, and Blackgang, and maybe Texpat and others too, but It's time to take a stand. This doesn't mean I'll ever be a weak, limp-wristed, pacifist, tax and spend, pussy liberal. No, we have enough of those on this forum and I'll never be that boys.

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    Don't apologize to me, I voted for HW Bush and Clinton. And when they were done with their terms, I was satisfied with both. I never voted for Dubya cause I thought he was dim the first time I heard him speak. Abstained in both '00 and '04. My vote is still out on this election. Far to early to decide. But I would never let something as silly as party affiliation sway me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Don't apologize to me, I voted for HW Bush and Clinton. And when they were done with their terms, I was satisfied with both. I never voted for Dubya cause I thought he was dim the first time I heard him speak. Abstained in both '00 and '04. My vote is still out on this election. Far to early to decide. But I would never let something as silly as party affiliation sway me.
    Tex, I respect your good common sense. That is something that is so lacking in this polarized world of left vs. right. Most on the right can't entertain the notion of a democrat, and most on the left can't entertain the notion of a republican. It's so apparent on this forum. Far left and far right. Few in between.

    Nice to see someone moderate, reasonable and intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Nice to see someone moderate, reasonable and intelligent.
    Who do you have in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Nice to see someone moderate, reasonable and intelligent.
    Who do you have in mind?
    Well, you're not too bad. You're fairly moderate on the left side of the scale, fairly reasonable for a left-winger, and yes you are intelligent.

    Yup, you get the job....

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    Thank you, but I am too quirky to be in any sort of leading position.

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