Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

err.....'thanks' for cutting and pasting someone else's opinion......again.

Originally Posted by raycarey

someone else's opinion.

Which is becoming shared by many of late...heh

Is gas tax federal or state level? Fed I would guess, but then why do pump prices differ depending on geo location? (Sure, different cos charge different prices, but are usually within a few cents of each other in the same areas.)

Both McCain and Hillary's 'Gas tax exemption' electioneering carrots are utterly, utterly stupid. An exeample of, when it comes down to actual Policy, Obama is in a different league entirely. It's a shame that, in this mass media age, people are being spoon fed with non-sequiturs such as a firebrand pastor, drinking beer and bowling with the great unwashed to show you are a 'peoples person', and so on.

Obama, who is routinely accused of being a smooth talking populist with no substance, is the only candidate that has an actual energy policy. The Republicans are of course the 'Party of Denial' (or a party in denial) but Dem Hillary offering this stupidity is a blatant attempt to bribe votes from the short sighted and ignorant. I can only presume that the Democratic superdelegates see right through it.

Gas Tax Exemption in a nutshell = Borrow more from China, to pay Opec.
It just continues, and exacerbates, current US issues such as over reliance on hydro carbon energy, gratuitous consumption thereof, ballooning government debt and foreign indebtedness, and environmental issues.

Latest gas tax rates I could find (2002).
Sorry, unable to copy and paste.
U.S. Gasoline Taxes by State
Looks like Alaska wins with zero or lowest rates at different govt levels.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the problem that won't go away.

I think it pretty much has gone away for 99% but thanks for reminding us! I will follow this with my undivided attention.

Originally Posted by sabang

Both McCain and Hillary's 'Gas tax exemption' electioneering carrots are utterly, utterly stupid. An exeample of, when it comes down to actual Policy, Obama is in a different league entirely. It's a shame that, in this mass media age, people are being spoon fed with non-sequiturs such as a firebrand pastor, drinking beer and bowling with the great unwashed to show you are a 'peoples person', and so on.

Obama, who is routinely accused of being a smooth talking populist with no substance, is the only candidate that has an actual energy policy......

Gas Tax Exemption in a nutshell = Borrow more from China, to pay Opec.
It just continues, and exacerbates, current US issues such as over reliance on hydro carbon energy, gratuitous consumption thereof, ballooning government debt and foreign indebtedness, and environmental issues.

Yes, the federal gas tax is .18 cents I believe. A bandaid covering a larger problem. Election pandering and it does reveal the simplicity and silliness of some of the candidates. The masses are also part of this foolishness.

Laughable.

Originally Posted by Milkman

The masses are also part of this foolishness.

The target of Hillary and McCain and will likely sway a few votes. Obama's stand against it further convinces me he can be relied to do what's best and not resort to political expediency at the cost of long term consequence.

^Norton, yes, he's made this his 'signature' issue for now. But I'm not sure we can extrapolate that his taking the intelligent long term view on this issue will allow him to overcome the tremendous Washington political insider machine. In that respect, Hilary/Bill & McCain are probably better versed in how to negotiate long terms goals while still providing the carrots to the masses short term.

^Norton, the reason I support Obama is more exactly what you have mentioned. I think the US needs an image makeover. I think the US needs a major foreign policy revision. Of course, any president will be saddled with health care and economy issues. Those are not easy fixes.

But, overall, the emotional aspect of a fresh new direction with a fresh new half-black President named Hussein I think promises greater potential to reach out to our enemies than the policy of not talking to them or ignoring them.

Gawd you're on fire today Norton. already greened ya though.

Originally Posted by chinthee

But, overall, the emotional aspect of a fresh new direction with a fresh new half-black President named Hussein I think promises greater potential to reach out to our enemies than the policy of not talking to them or ignoring them.

Clearly his policies on the international front hold the promise of real change in that arena. You mentioned the difficulty he will have with Washington insiders. In this regard his charisma is also a great strength. Average Americans may not be able to state exactly what needs to change but they certainly know America is in desperate need of change. If he, as I believe he can, inspire Americans to do what needs to be done to make the change the Washington insiders will, as they always have, jump on the band wagon with little objection.

One area of his policies I question is what may be a rush to pull all troops out of Iraq. He needs to establish an approach which will not leave a worse situation than the one he inherits. Talk about a daunting challenge.

Originally Posted by sabang

Gawd you're on fire today Norton. already greened ya though.

As with us all sometimes the words just come out and other days we are just thinking.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the problem that won't go away.

I think it pretty much has gone away for 99% but thanks for reminding us! I will follow this with my undivided attention.

"Birds of a feather flock together." -- Anonymous

Ya. Good idea. Get Obama in as prez to pacify the muslim masses and the weak-kneed western nations and then the US political machinery and admin will have better cover for whatever they want to do. Brill. Vote Bambam.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Ya. Good idea. Get Obama in as prez to pacify the muslim masses and the weak-kneed western nations and then the US political machinery and admin will have better cover for whatever they want to do. Brill. Vote Bambam.

Yeah, exactly. Think of it kind of like the repo points. This is a chance to reload the reds for the next 8 years by giving lots of greens. We'll need a big supply of reds to battle China's emergence.

^ Ya! How about India? Do they have an agenda for takeover?

^India does not seem to have any agenda except to someday vaporize Pakistan. That may change as they start flexing their muscles.

The age issue won't go away, and I think Obama will capitalize on it. McCain is truly too old to lead the world's most powerful nation.

Obama: McCain 'losing bearings'

Obama got a taste of what is ahead following an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer on ''The Situation Room,'' where Obama said McCain is ''losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination.'' Obama was reacting to a statement McCain made that Obama is favored by the Palestinian militant organization Hamas. Last month, Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said they liked Obama.

McCain senior adviser Mark Salter shot out a memo saying the ''bearings'' crack was ''not a particular clever way'' of making an issue of McCain's age. Obama's ''new brand'' of politics, said Salter, was really an attack, and that ''is called hypocrisy.''

Obama: McCain 'losing bearings' :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Lynn Sweet

I'm sure that age is an issue at some point. Obama's 46, and in 4 years he'll be an "old-timer" and irrelevant according to some members on this board. But McCain at this advanced age, is certainly too old to withstand the rigours of this office.

He is no Ronald Reagan.

BO needs another history lesson. What we got here? Another Neville Chamberlain?

"In his victory speech after the North Carolina primary, Sen. Barack Obama said something that is all the more remarkable for how little it has been remarked upon. In defending his stated intent to meet with America's enemies without preconditions, Sen. Obama said: "I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies, like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did."

"That he made this statement, and that it passed without comment by the journalists covering his speech indicates either breathtaking ignorance of history on the part of both, or deceit."

RealClearPolitics - Articles - Obama Needs a History Lesson

G_D help us...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

"That he made this statement, and that it passed without comment by the journalists covering his speech indicates either breathtaking ignorance of history on the part of both, or deceit."

Maybe it was because they didn't hear him whisper "like Neville Chamberlain".

^
Reached later for comment, BO said: "Can't I just eat my waffle"