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    Queen Elizabeth must die or abdicate for Australian republic

    By Michael Perry Sun Jan 27, 10:22 PM ET

    SYDNEY (Reuters) - Britain's Queen Elizabeth, Australia's head-of-state, must die or abdicate before Australia can become a republic, said one of the country's leading politicians and former head of the republican movement.
    Malcolm Turnbull, now opposition treasury spokesman, said Australians would not vote for a republic while the country's monarch reigned.

    The majority of Australians support their country becoming a republic, but a 1999 vote on a republic failed because Australians could not agree on the type of republic.
    Queen Elizabeth must die or abdicate for Australian republic - Yahoo! News

    So, Aussies still don't know what it's like to be on their own without hanging onto the the skirt of Queen Elizabeth??

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    They've been on their own a long time and doing a good job of too. The queen is just a figurehead thats all. She has no say what goes on there at all.
    But you know that already dont you Chin.

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    The only reason that Australia isn't a republic now is because the Aussie politicians scored an own goal.
    If voters wanted a republic, then the head of state would be selected by the politicians and not be selected by a public vote.
    The voting public, quite rightly, reckoned that a head of state put in place by the politicians would not be trustworthy, which is why they voted to stay with the queen.
    In a nutshell, they didn't vote for the monarchy, they voted against the ruling politicians idea of what kind of republic Australia would be.
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    God save their Queen.

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    Betty's OK, but, I think the UK should also become a republic when she dies.

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    We need to develop closer ties in the modern World between the UK and Australia that do not involve the Monarchy in any case. We have more in common than any other two nations I can think of.

    Certainly if Britain is to move forward perhaps the Monarchy should be at least sidelined if not done away with altogether.

    Perhaps when Lizzie dies it will be time to put it to bed forever and join the US as the 51st state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud
    We have more in common than any other two nations I can think of.
    Except for New Zealand and Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr View Post
    The voting public, quite rightly, reckoned that a head of state put in place by the politicians would not be trustworthy, which is why they voted to stay with the queen.
    Trustworthy to do what? Wave and smile?

    Afraid she might make a public appearance without her knickers on?

    If Aussies choose a new king or queen. He/she should be abo.

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    If Aussies choose a new king or queen.
    Hell will freeze first ....................

    A Republic will be next .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Burr
    Betty's OK, but, I think the UK should also become a republic when she dies.
    I think the UK is more or less a republic anyway. It will make very little difference if the royal family is abolished, except we may lose some income through tourism and trade due to the work that the royals currently do.

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    ^ The UK benefits from it's Monarchy- why abolish it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    The UK benefits from it's Monarchy- why abolish it?
    I don't think we should.

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    I read somewhere the true ones entitled to be on the English throne are living in Australia, maybe one of our teachers could tell the correct story please.

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    Exclusive, hereditary nobility is best left for the history books unless you have a commoner populace unable to think for themselves.

    Having said that, I've nothing against them, merely believe the mold is outdated.
    Last edited by Texpat; 29-01-2008 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Queen Elizabeth must die or abdicate for Australian republic
    Tell you what, Chin - why don't you give her a call or send her a nice chatty email suggesting that. Sure she'd be happy to oblige...

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    Quote Originally Posted by November Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Queen Elizabeth must die or abdicate for Australian republic
    Tell you what, Chin - why don't you give her a call or send her a nice chatty email suggesting that. Sure she'd be happy to oblige...
    I'm sure she won't, but it wouldn't surprise me to see someone else in her Monarchy abdicate at some point, and maybe also in the one closer to home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgit View Post
    I read somewhere the true ones entitled to be on the English throne are living in Australia, maybe one of our teachers could tell the correct story please.
    One very large cattle station north of the Alice is owned by a blue blood.

    A yellow fella was sired by one of the clan and went on to play first team Aussie Rules. A major embarrassment and not talked about.

    Perhaps he could be the first king of Australia.

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    Found it! do a Google for Aussie Mike the true King of England

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgit View Post
    Found it! do a Google for Aussie Mike the true King of England
    Come on, give us a link and some text. You have to work for your kudos in Issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud
    We have more in common than any other two nations I can think of.
    Except for New Zealand and Australia.
    Germany and Austria

    The US and Canada

    NZ and the UK


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    The royals earn their salt. Marmite pointed-out some of the contributions, and HRH has also been markedly influential in affairs involving Commonwealth nations, particularly in Africa. I believe that the UK has a right to be proud of the royalty. I think few would argue that Australians generally view the Crown as being of little relevance to Australia these days, but on the other hand the system is no more expensive than a republican model and let's face it, the cost is the only real issue. Quite frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

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    Does noone remember 1975? The representative of a foreign power sacked the head an elected government. Never mind that ultimately it was the right thing to do as it was the only way out of the impasse that the 2 houses had reached over the budget, it still sticks in the throat.

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    Yes, I deliberately didn't mention that for two reasons:

    1 It was unprecedented and is unlikely to recur
    2 A republican model may incorporate similar powers for a president

    You have to remember that Gough defied tradition by not dissolving parliament when supply was blocked for the third time. The situation ws untenable and something had to give. The public seems to have thought that the action was merit-worthy, since Fraser won in a landslide at the subsequent election ('75). However, there are still very strong feelings about this episode on both sides of the political spectrum, and it would be unfair on the OP to cause this thread to degenerate to an argument about Australian political history.

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    Ok, please excuse the stupidity of continental Europeans but why is the Queen of UK still the Queen of Australia?

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