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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    it also give the republicans an opportunity to further hide two of the most reviled politicians in america.....bush and cheney.
    Yeah, I thought about this also.

    BWB and Cheney will skip the convention because of the Hurricane.

    Very convenient. Let the GOP/McCain try to distance themselves from the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    ^More total crap by raycarey. Everybody knows GW Bush is not scheduled to appear at the Republican Convention. Jesus. Talk about grasping at straws. A democrat brainwash victim.


    try again tubby.

    he was scheduled with cheney for the first night....but now he's "busy".

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    ^Oh, come on Ray. It's been reported for a long time he wasn't going to appear. BTW, I'm on your side, dickwad. I support Obama for now.

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    President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney will skip the Republican National Convention because of Hurricane Gustav, the White House said Sunday. The first lady, Laura Bush, is still scheduled to address delegates at the convention in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Monday, the opening day.
    The convention schedule had Bush as the featured speaker before delegates late that night.
    Bush and Cheney to skip convention due to storm, White House says - International Herald Tribune


    and honestly, for someone who thinks he knows something about US politics.....how could you even imagine that a sitting president wouldn't be scheduled to speak at his party's convention?

    it's mind boggling.

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    ray, you're grasping at straws. Everybody, including GWB, knows he's the most unpopular President in history. Why don't you try some original thought? A doctoral candidate should be capable of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    It's been reported for a long time he wasn't going to appear.
    a long time, eh?

    admit it, you really have no idea what you're on about.

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    I don't care about the bickering. But the point is:

    Q: was GWB scheduled to speak at the convention, originally?

    That is the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    was GWB scheduled to speak at the convention, originally?
    of course he was. see my link above in post #1629.


    but this is what chinthee posted....

    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    More total crap by raycarey. Everybody knows GW Bush is not scheduled to appear at the Republican Convention. Jesus. Talk about grasping at straws.
    now that the evidence has been presented, i wonder if he would care to retract.

    my guess is he'll just slink away......

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    This scrimmage ought to be over.

    Here is the answer to the question:

    President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney scrapped plans to address the convention Monday night,
    Link: McCain: Convention curtailed for Gustav - The conventions - MSNBC.com

    I do think this cancellation was very convenient and we'll see if GWB and/or Cheney re-schedule the appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    we'll see if GWB and/or Cheney re-schedule the appearances.
    they may, but it seems more likely that they'll only be there on tape.

    because GWB is really busy leading.

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    No need to speculate guys. The GOP has a website which described in detail the now curtailed convention. The web site understandably has yet to be updated as I'm sure the organizers are running around trying to figure out the best way to spin the Gustav party crasher.

    The pre Gustav plan:

    MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2008
    Country First: Service

    Speakers will include:
    • U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman (Conn.)
    • Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (Calif.)
    • Vice President Richard B. Cheney
    • First Lady Laura Bush
    • President George W. Bush
    http://www.gopconvention2008.com/schedule/service.aspx
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    when is gimmick scheduled to speak? i know she had a spot before the VP nod, but i'm sure they've moved her now.

    btw, don't underestimate the opportunism and cynicism of the bush white house....if the gulf coast is even slightly less damaged than it was when bush stayed on vacation 3 years ago, i'd be willing to wager he makes an appearance and tries to make is seem that he is responsible for increasing the gulf coast's hurricane preparedness.

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    Excellent video depicting BO's unreadiness to become POTUS:

    Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: A new McCain spokesman for Obama’s unreadiness

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    ^Another hotair blog, eh! Not worth looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    ^Another hotair blog, eh! Not worth looking at.
    Go ahead!
    Keep reading the Daily Kos and get y'all's talking points there, eh?

    Back on topic:

    Several Reasons Democrats Are Stuck on Stupid with BO:

    Obama seems shady. There are unanswered questions such as his dual citizenship with Kenya that just hang out there and make him seem like he’s hiding something, or that he doesn’t really want everyone to know, or that he wants some people to know but not others.

    3. Obama seems socialist. Americans are more open to having the government save their bacon, true enough, but there does seem to be a stopping point. Not with Obama. There is not one American problem that can’t be solved by American ingenuity government interference.


    4. Obama just can’t say that he loves America. He can’t do it. I know this is strange, but Americans love America. They want their president to love America, too. When Obama was questioned by the little girl about why he wanted to be President, a softball question that’s eluded even regular journalists, Obama stumbled. If Obama gets tongue-tied with a seven year old, how is he going to defend American values to the world? Answer: He won’t.


    5. Obama seems unprepared. The more the campaign goes along, the more inexperienced he looks. Well, he IS inexperienced. His knee-jerk response to Russia and the UN demonstrates his naivité. I don’t like Hillary Clinton, but I have a good idea about how she’d respond to Putin. Obama compared with McCain on this? There is no comparison.


    6. Obama acts like he’s better than everyone. His sanctimony grates. Both in affect and content, Obama seems to think he’s above it all. Ugh. He’s not the Queen of England. The Presidency isn’t just a figurehead. It’s a working job where the people need to be represented and not by some effete fluffy-headed idealogue.


    7. Obama has pissed people off. Here’s what did it for me, as far as not liking him as a person or potential president and I don’t think I’m alone among women on this issue: When he called the reporter sweetie it crawled all over me. She is not a friend or relative. She is a reporter. Calling her “sweetie” was dismissive and inappropriate. There are reasons why the Hillary supporters aren’t coming around, this is one of them.



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    Anything new to tell is about your next POTUS then booner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Yawnn-

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    wet behind the ears

    Anything new to tell is about your next POTUS then booner?
    Well, if McCain kicks the bucket while in the WH, heh...we got ourselves an outstanding Conservative Babe as POTUS with ALL the right priorities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    Everybody knows GW Bush is not scheduled to appear at the Republican Convention.
    Quote Originally Posted by chinthee
    It's been reported for a long time he wasn't going to appear.
    well, not only was GWB scheduled to appear tubby, he's re-scheduled.
    ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reports: After skipping the opening day of the Republican National Convention to personally check the emergency response to Hurricane Gustav, President George W. Bush will keep his appointment with the party faithful.
    Bush will speak to the RNC Tuesday in St. Paul, one day after the convention opened to an abbreviated schedule due to the storm.
    Political Radar: Bush to Speak to Republican Convention


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    The first full day of the red team convention was nothing special. Bush did speak from the White House – not sure I agree with that. I don’t think the White House should be used as place to play politics.

    Thompsons speech was OK, he is a decent story teller and that’s how much of the speech came across. I was a bit distracted by the fact he kept clearing his throat.

    Lieberman also was only OK. He was a bit more on the attack than I expected. I thought he would focus more on just McCain and his (Lieberman’s) relationship and knowledge of they type or man/ politician that John McCain is. I did not expect the praise of Palin that he gave, nor the comments about Obama. But once he did mention Obama, I expected at least one comment on Biden – which did not come.


    It will be interesting to see what happens politically with Lieberman from here on out. Before he causused with the blue team, and has been allowed some decent positions - wonder if that will continue?

    Also the speakers (Thompson and Lieberman) kept trying to balance comments between giving the far right what they wanted to hear, with giving something for the independents to listen to. This did not help with how the speechs flowed - and kind of kept them from maintaining a single focus of the speech.

    All in not a bad showing. A few too many old white guys (speaking and in the crowd), and they broke into the “U” “S” “A” chant a few too many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs View Post
    I expected at least one comment on Biden – which did not come.
    Coz he's nothing to worry about. Plagiarist and a jaw-flapper and everybody knows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugs
    Lieberman also was only OK.
    Notable in his address is my somewhat paraphrased message. It should be the principal in which government should behave and IMO should be applied in this forum a lot more.

    "Stubborn partisanship is why we have the problems we face. Congress should not be a Republican against Democrat contest to see who who can win but a contest to do what is best for America."

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    Poll averages show Obama with a 6.4% lead over McCain as of September 2. Up from a 2% lead on 27 August.

    This has got to be troubling for the GOP!

    RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama

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    ^ Boons, I saw your bumper sticker that the Dems are upset that Gustav never made it to devastation level. Possibly. I think the divine winds helped the Reps -- hey, no Bush/Cheney show, op to show the Reps' support for the people (hey, we're calling off the show) and keep the conv focus on McC and Palin.
    The crap dirt dredged up by the lefty papers will help Palin in the end -- people will see this crap news for what it is: demeaning crap.

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    The evidence keeps mounting!

    Political experience

    Obama: Worked his way to the top by cultivating, pandering to and stroking the most powerful interest groups in the all-pervasive Chicago political machine, ensuring his views were aligned with the power brokers there.

    Palin: Worked her way to the top by challenging, attacking and actively undermining the Republican party establishment in her native Alaska. She ran against incumbent Republicans as a candidate willing and able to clean the Augean Stables of her state's government.

    Political Biography

    Obama: A classic, if unusually talented, greasy-pole climber. Held a succession of jobs that constitute the standard route to the top in his party's internal politics: "community organizer", law professor, state senator.

    Palin:A woman with a wide range of interests in a well-variegated life. Held a succession of jobs - sports journalist, commercial fisherwoman, state oil and gas commissioner, before entering local politics. A resume that suggests something other than burning political ambition from the cradle but rather the sort of experience that enables her to understand the concerns of most Americans..

    Heh...love how BO is being portrayed as a 'greasy pole-climber' too!

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    This just in from the BO campaign:

    Dear Jet,

    In the next 36 hours, the McCain campaign will be pouring millions of dollars -- if not tens of millions -- into negative attack ads against Barack Obama.

    Before John McCain accepts the Republican nomination on Thursday, his campaign has to spend every last dollar of primary funds they've raked in from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.

    Just yesterday, they aired a new negative ad in 14 swing states. His campaign manager even admitted that all McCain has to rely on is attacks, saying that for them, "This election is not about issues."

    He doesn't want Americans to notice that the Republican platform is the most extreme we've ever seen -- opposing stem cell research, denying a woman's right to choose no matter what the circumstance, and continuing to spend $10 billion a month in Iraq.

    With so much at stake, we can't allow another election to be determined by petty and divisive political tactics.

    Make a donation of $5 or more to fight back against an unprecedented week of negativity from John McCain.

    The McCain campaign is trying to distract voters from the real issues -- so we're going to focus on what they're trying to hide.

    They've come out against the life-saving possibilities of stem cell research.

    They don't even mention protecting equal pay for equal work.

    They support huge tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans.

    They've almost completely ignored the $10 billion we're spending every month in Iraq.

    And they make zero exceptions for a woman's right to choose -- even in cases of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother.

    If that all sounds like more of the same, that's because it is. John McCain is offering a third term of the disastrous Bush agenda, so it's no wonder his campaign would choose to focus on attacks instead of issues.

    Please make your donation of $5 or more today:

    https://donate.barackobama.com/fightback

    I know we've asked a lot from supporters like you recently, and many of you contributed just last week.

    But the stakes are high, and there are less than 9 weeks before Election Day. It's going to require unprecedented resources to defeat John McCain and bring about the change America so desperately needs.

    Thank you for all you do,

    David

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    You're welcome! Thanks for the news update. I gave my $25 to McCain.
    I didn't know that McC had talked about stem-cell research, pro-choice (obv, this is referring to Palin's pro-life) or more $ to Iraq in the past day. Musta been in the Huff'n'Puff Post.

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